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hardknocks
05-16-2012, 06:28 PM
hello all.
was considering picking up my first AK and it was a low priced TGI FEG AMD 65 from a online dealer. its a side folder and want to know if this can be converted to wood stock if i dont like the side folder? i would prefer the underfolder but its kinda a $$$ thing.
help a newb out.:pray:
thanks

imanaknut
05-16-2012, 07:09 PM
Welcome to the group !!! :welcome:

You can convert the AMD-65 sidefolder to a fixed stock. Unfortunately it is not a simple unbolt and rebolt.

You would have to remove the folding stock rear trunion, and install the rear trunion for a fixed stock. Remember that the rear trunions are riveted in place. Not easy but can be done.

Schuetzenman
05-16-2012, 07:30 PM
Ima's advise is sound. There is no EASY way to convert the AMD65 to a fixed stock. IMO it has the worst designed wire folder stock bar none. However, the weapon does grow on one as you use it. You will have to put your jaw bone on the stock to get any kind of head support while looking through the sights. These were orginally made for mechanized unit troops, (APC's and Tanks etc.). I don't know what the Hungarian weapon designers were smoking when they came up with that folder.

alismith
05-16-2012, 07:37 PM
When I first got mine, I hated the side-folding stock, but after shooting it for a while, like Schuetzenman says, it "grows" on you. The only shortcoming I see with the whole setup, on mine, is there's no place to attach a sling. Other than that, I like it.

hardknocks
05-16-2012, 07:46 PM
Hello
not easy does not bother me at all but nearly impossible might. i believe from the research i done the amd 65 for 440 bucks is a good deal and a decent shooter.
I have checked the amd65 out last week at a gun show and it dont seem like it would be much fun with the wire stock but it might work.
also done some reading about different legal issues and its pretty crazy stuff, if the stock was swapped for wood stock it seems to be no problem correct?
If it can be done with tools i can probably do it. but if my computer takes a dump im in deep doo doo!
i have experience with handguns/rifles/shotguns but with all the different AK styles its mind boggling.
thanks for helpin a noob
regards

Schuetzenman
05-16-2012, 07:54 PM
To swap it out you will need to drill out the rivets that hold the rear trunion in the receiver. I can't recall if the rivet pattern matches that of a fixed stock trunion. I have built 2 AMD65 rifles and well over a dozen AKM types. Riveting is not easy, do it wrong and the turnion will be loose, or it could just scream amature hour if done poorly. You should try to find an AMD64, this is the fixed stock Hungarian rifle that has a forward grip like the 65 but it has a conventional buttstock made of wood.

imanaknut
05-16-2012, 08:08 PM
My AMD-65 is one of my favorite shooters, and because of that, it has fired well over 10,000 rounds. Funny thing is that I learned long ago how to shoot without that painful sounding cheek weld. I figured if I could shoot a pistol without welding my face to it, I could shoot a rifle the same way, and with the lighter weight of the AMD-65, a good old 100 round drum is pure expensive fun!

alismith
05-16-2012, 09:53 PM
My AMD-65 is one of my favorite shooters, and because of that, it has fired well over 10,000 rounds. Funny thing is that I learned long ago how to shoot without that painful sounding cheek weld. I figured if I could shoot a pistol without welding my face to it, I could shoot a rifle the same way, and with the lighter weight of the AMD-65, a good old 100 round drum is pure expensive fun!

For some reason my AMD feels like it weighs a ton. It's one of the heaviest-feeling AK's I've ever held. Even my grandson says it's way too heavy for him to hold.

hardknocks
05-28-2012, 03:12 PM
I have to call buds tomorrow. it says tgi amd65 but at the top of the page its under century arms catagorie.
let youall know.
thanks

OzarkRecluse
05-28-2012, 03:33 PM
Bud's (and Century) is selling the same TGI AMD-65 that most sites are selling.

hardknocks
06-22-2012, 07:00 PM
amd 65 came in to the transfer guy yesterday and when i was checking it out the front sight was
a good quarter inch to the left of center. so bad we just laughed.
pretty bummed. i didnt accept the gun and buds is going to send another out. hopefully it will be acceptable.
everything else looked o.k.
dont know how someone could have no pride in thier work and not even care.
and so it goes.
Mike

imanaknut
06-22-2012, 09:25 PM
That sucks but at least you caught it before you bought it.

I agree that it is pretty sad that some people don't care how poorly they assemble something. Sometimes I think pride went out the window along with common sense.

hardknocks
07-03-2012, 07:23 PM
That sucks but at least you caught it before you bought it.

I agree that it is pretty sad that some people don't care how poorly they assemble something. Sometimes I think pride went out the window along with common sense.

well today i picked up the second amd65 buds sent me. it looked pretty good so i accepted it this time. now that i have the gun home and spent some time going over it well the front sight is off to the left somewhat. not as bad as first one.
i used a piece of thread to make a line from front to rear sight and its not as good as i first thought.
not sure how this will play out. i know one way to find out.
its the first ak variant i have had so i dont have experience with this setup. stripping it down it seems pretty simple and i hope it shoots somewhat straight.
wish me luck
looks like the front sight screws in and has a pin type top portion. im thinking if its way off i can get a new bolt and create a offset on the pin so i could adjust left to right adjustment with a turn of the screw/bolt sight.
thanks for any and all info.

ceno
10-21-2012, 04:59 PM
There is an attachment that goes onto the wire stock to allow for a cheek weld.

charger0122
10-21-2012, 06:18 PM
if you did change it to a wood stock if you did get another trunion put in the receiver it will still have a square cut out of it where it folds at the back of the receiver. wouldnt look to great.

John Fritz
10-23-2012, 08:33 PM
if you did change it to a wood stock if you did get another trunion put in the receiver it will still have a square cut out of it where it folds at the back of the receiver. wouldnt look to great.

Good point.

El Laton Caliente
10-23-2012, 08:54 PM
Got a couple and a couple kits... AMDs are a good SECOND or THIRD AK... Hungarians are an acquired taste in my opinion...

imanaknut
10-23-2012, 09:03 PM
Got a couple and a couple kits... AMDs are a good SECOND or THIRD AK... Hungarians are an acquired taste in my opinion...


This is so true. It never ceases to amaze me how many people cannot shoot a rifle without stuffing their cheek into the stock. One of the reasons I like the AMD-65 is because I learned a long time ago how to shoot a rifle without that painful process of having to weld my cheek to the stock.


:smiley31:

El Laton Caliente
10-24-2012, 10:09 AM
My oddest Hungarian. an AMP69 Grenade Launching AKM:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll228/ElLatonCaliente/Firearms/AMP69-1.jpg

charger0122
10-24-2012, 01:17 PM
that thing is badass!
i didnt really like the folder that much but it grows on you, i have 2 myself.when i built them i put a wood stock on one.left the other a folder.

El Laton Caliente
10-24-2012, 02:37 PM
The folding butt and the foregrip are spring loaded to dampen the heavy recoil from shoulder launching a grenade. The optic is set up for grenades and not ammo. They come with ten round mags for the grenade blanks.

As far as I know this is the only kit built semi. From what I was told, there were six dealer samples brought into the USA, two were cut into kits and this one built into a working semi. So there is one other kit out there and four other examples. Not sure, but I think the fulls went to .gov as samples/examples for the military or BAFTE/FBI... Anyway, I've never seen another one...

charger0122
10-24-2012, 02:58 PM
iv only seen pics of them on google thats defiantly one to hang on to. you said it was made for blanks have you ever ran regular ammo through it? or will it cycle regular ammo? just curious.

El Laton Caliente
10-24-2012, 05:58 PM
Safe Queen...

It was fired for function when rebuilt from the kit but not since. Guess it wouldn't hurt to put a mag down range...

ak collector
08-12-2013, 10:08 PM
I am looking to buy an amp69. I have a lot of rare and interesting items would u be interested in parting with yours. I am fully aware of current value for a semi auto I would also consider a parts kit if you have an extra. I would love to talk to you or any one else about there amp69. I even would consider trading transferable nfa weapons for it including mgs and suppressors. Please get back to me at 920-xxx-xxxx or email (removed) thanks anthony. If any one else hass any leads to me obtaining one of these even as a post sample please let me know. I am an avid ak collector and new to your board. Thank u for the poat and your time

El Laton Caliente
08-13-2013, 05:05 AM
I'll give you a call today. As far as I know there was a case of six brought into the USA. Four are still post 86 dealer samples or government training weapons. Two kits were cut and sold. Mine is the only one I've seen built into a rifle.

At least this is what I was told by the former owner I bought it from.

IIRC, the USA parts are receiver, trigger group and piston. It has been in the safe since I bought it...

ak collector
08-13-2013, 12:28 PM
I'll give you a call today. As far as I know there was a case of six brought into the USA. Four are still post 86 dealer samples or government training weapons. Two kits were cut and sold. Mine is the only one I've seen built into a rifle.

At least this is what I was told by the former owner I bought it from.

IIRC, the USA parts are receiver, trigger group and piston. It has been in the safe since I bought it...

My number is 920-xxx-xxxx and my email is(removed) I can call u if you would rather it be on my dime
Thanks for your time and I really look forward to hearing from u.

imanaknut
08-13-2013, 10:24 PM
ak collector, for your own safety don't post actual phone numbers or email addresses. If you want to contact someone, use a PM and ask in the PM if they want to contact you and only if they agree should you give them a phone number or email addy.

Thanks and welcome to the site.

El Laton Caliente
08-13-2013, 10:59 PM
Thanks

ak collector
08-18-2013, 04:29 PM
Thanks. I appreciate the help and thanks for the welcome