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jojo
08-25-2010, 11:49 PM
Do any of you guys have any experience with the old Winchester hand loaders?

I have the original Winchester .30 WCF and the and the .30 WCF SR (short range) with the factory bullet mold.

My brother has been loading black powder rounds for his old SRC for quite a while now and I have been wanting to load the .30 WCF SR just to see what kind of ballistics I get.

Apparently in the old days the model 1894 was used for just about everything including hunting duck, turkey, rabbit etc.... with the SR. It uses a 114 grain projectile instead of a standard 150 grain and uses 6 grains of powder vs 29 grains of powder.

I am most concerned about short loading black powder in it and causing damage.http://http://www.gunsnet.net/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=142&title=picture-002&cat=500

http://www.gunsnet.net/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=142&title=picture-002&cat=500

Gunreference1
08-26-2010, 02:54 AM
http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=2202

http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php?topic=3564.0

http://www.steelchickens.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4201

jojo, here are some links that discuss 'short range' .30-30 ammunition. Hope this helps!

Steve

jojo
08-26-2010, 10:28 AM
That is great. Thanks a million. Tried to post a photo but no luck. Appreciate the links

O.S.O.K.
08-26-2010, 10:55 AM
This is a good post for the reloading forum.... hint hint hint ;)

Gunreference1
08-26-2010, 10:59 AM
This is a good post for the reloading forum.... hint hint hint ;)

I would agree with that idea!

Steve

deth502
08-26-2010, 05:13 PM
This is a good post for the reloading forum.... hint hint hint ;)

hmmm, if only there were any moderators posting here that could move the thread.............

:cigarsmoking:

Gunreference1
08-26-2010, 08:06 PM
hmmm, if only there were any moderators posting here that could move the thread.............

:cigarsmoking:

I believe it would actually require an Administrator to make this change since there isn't an individual Moderator assigned to this specific forum.

Steve

jojo
08-27-2010, 12:09 AM
Sorry i didn't post it there to start with. Hell I forgot how to post photos too. Sure wish the old sight never went down. Been so long now that I have to learn all over.

63DH8
08-27-2010, 12:45 AM
I thought you were wanting the reloading tool.

http://www.ammoreloadingoutlet.com/wp-content/uploads/Lyman%20Reloading.jpg


They're called a Lyman 310 tool.

http://castpics.net/IdealMouldHistoryPartI_files/image050.jpg

http://www.cnyauctions.com/THE310SHOP-New%20310%20Dies.jpg

jojo
08-27-2010, 08:37 AM
I've got the original Winchester tools and have a photo int he gallery but can't get it into this thread for whatever reason. Will try again.http://www.gunsnet.net/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=142&title=picture-002&cat=500

O.S.O.K.
08-27-2010, 02:27 PM
Wow - very nice! I don't think I've ever seen this particular kit - very cool!

http://www.gunsnet.net/photopost/data/500/medium/Picture_002.jpg

jojo
01-20-2011, 08:00 PM
Wow - very nice! I don't think I've ever seen this particular kit - very cool!

http://www.gunsnet.net/photopost/data/500/medium/Picture_002.jpg

Thanks for helping me out with the photo. I wish I would have taken some detailed photos of the markings. Has all of the Winchester patent info on them from 1894. They are very easy to use. The factory Short Range loader and bullet mold are the hardest to find. I have since loaded them and they do very well and group about 3 inches at 50 yards. The would definitely take down turkey and ducks as originally intended. Have absolutely no recoil and make only a pop sound vs the PAAAA CRRRACKKKkkkkk

Pretty much a "do all" tool. They resize the neck, deprime. prime and seat and crimp in one action. They come up occasionally on eBay if anyone is interested. Just search under Winchester tool, 30 WCF etc.......

O.S.O.K.
01-21-2011, 03:57 PM
Oh God! Not another gun-related hobby :eek:

Those are very cool though and compact too - would make an outstanding "bug out" type reloading kit. Not to mention that its easy to take them to the range and work up loads right there as you test them.