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imanaknut
11-19-2012, 04:40 PM
Another in my continuing series of buyer beware.

A nice looking rifle, with the disclaimer that the rifle has a Chinese receiver as opposed to the notoriously bad USA made B-west receivers, but that is not what seems to be wrong with this rifle.

Unfortunately there are at least three things that just don't look right for a true Norinco 56S-2 style rifle.

As always, will answer the question later.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=317716400
Helen Keller
11-19-2012, 05:11 PM
the rear trunnion rivets look SUSPECT with their shine and the rust around the bases.
stinker
11-19-2012, 05:17 PM
Assuming i'm not clueless...

The front sight is not original chinese. Were'nt they all closed top with a hole over the pin for adjusting? Thinking parts kit spare.
Also probably means the gas block is not original too and it also lacks the full bayo lugs.

The furniture is not (i think) chinese and definitely not original, since it's stamped "sporter" it should have originally been a bush holed import.

I'm stuck on 3, or was that 3....

Could be an optical illusion but the front sight looks canted too.
El Laton Caliente
11-19-2012, 05:51 PM
Slant brake
Euro front site
re-Riveted rear

I'm doing about the same with a Poly AKS 7,62... The stock set is Chinese... Chinese aftermarket! That rifle likely had a choat (or other brand) stock that has been replaced. Looks like he FUBAR'd the front site and could find a chi-com.

The right front site and a little touch up and it would still be a nice rifle even if not original... just not $1,400 nice...
imanaknut
11-19-2012, 05:59 PM
Stock set is Chinese, and the gas block on the sidefolder 56S-2 and it's Poly Tech brother did not have the bayo lug with ears. They used the bayo that locked onto the front sight.
vit
11-19-2012, 06:51 PM
Is it me or does it look like the previous muzzle device was welded to the FSB?
Helen Keller
11-19-2012, 07:00 PM
yea, theres definitely been a whole lot of heat applied to that area.
El Laton Caliente
11-19-2012, 07:01 PM
Is it me or does it look like the previous muzzle device was welded to the FSB?

It is missing bluing there also...
imanaknut
11-19-2012, 07:15 PM
Yes, it appears that there used to be tack welds on the front sight, which itself is very not Chinese.
raxar
11-19-2012, 08:16 PM
what do you suppose the chances are that stock came off of one of those ak style pellet rifles?
El Laton Caliente
11-19-2012, 08:32 PM
what do you suppose the chances are that stock came off of one of those ak style pellet rifles?

None, I have one of the pellet rifles, unless there is some other kind out there they don't fit and are cheesey... now airsoft is another matter...
raxar
11-19-2012, 08:47 PM
None, I have one of the pellet rifles, unless there is some other kind out there they don't fit and are cheesey... now airsoft is another matter...

one of these? http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6586/p8271646ff4.jpg

I have one as well, you could probably do it with some "amish yute" rigging
imanaknut
11-19-2012, 10:22 PM
From what I learned a long time ago, those "toy" guns came in with actual 56S-2 folders. ATF had a fit when they found out and forced the importer to make sure the later ones were not Norinco parts. More than a few people figured out that the pellet gun was cheaper than trying to buy the actual folder.
insider
11-20-2012, 04:59 AM
That rifle looks like a fake!
El Laton Caliente
11-20-2012, 05:39 AM
The pellet rifle I have, the stock is lighter gauge and looks to be smaller...
imanaknut
11-20-2012, 01:27 PM
The pellet rifle I have, the stock is lighter gauge and looks to be smaller...


True, the later once did have a different stock than the very first ones imported. These days finding an early one with the standard 56S-2 stock is probably more rare than just finding the true stock itself.
bortle
11-25-2012, 04:03 PM
I'm no expert but if you look at pics #14&15 the rivets look awful different between the front and the back
imanaknut
11-25-2012, 04:10 PM
Welcome to the group, bortle !!! :welcome:

You are correct, the front rivets look original, the rear are definitely not original.
hazmat
11-26-2012, 11:47 PM
Here's my take on the front sight. Its might be original, but looks like it was cut off to make it look more 'European'. I haven't seen a single FS tower where the ears were that low. It screams Dremel cutoff wheel for some reason. Saw the rivets, the 'Sporter' tag, and the cut off weld on the FSB.

Looks to me like someone trying to get pre-89 prices out of a post-94 rifle.