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Bluntforce
09-06-2010, 12:19 AM
Does all the surplus 5.45x39mm ammo feature the infamous "poison bullet"?

Are the commercial Wolf, Brown/Silver Bear loaded with it?

Where can I get either SP or HP for hunting?

Dan44
09-06-2010, 01:38 AM
To my knowledge only the surplus is so loaded.

Gunreference1
09-06-2010, 06:02 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/RussianWP.jpg

http://guns.wikia.com/wiki/Kalashnikov_AK-74

Bluntforce, I believe Dan44 is correct. You'll only find this characteristic in surplus 5.45x39 ammunition.

Bluntforce
09-06-2010, 08:38 AM
Thank you.

O.S.O.K.
09-06-2010, 09:50 AM
Russian is for sure, Bulgarian... IIRC has a heavier bullet.

RJ Shooter
09-06-2010, 10:43 AM
The "Poison Bullet" properties come from an air pocket in the tip of the bullet. This causes the round to yaw when the tip becomes deformed.

Both Wolf and Barnaul commercial ammo do indeed have this air pocket, as does Golden Tiger. Although the air pocket in the latter is smaller. So, Ruskie FMJ can theoretically do more damage than a hollow point boat tail.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/dfariswheel/PICT0001.jpg

Bluntforce
09-06-2010, 11:14 AM
The "Poison Bullet" properties come from an air pocket in the tip of the bullet. This causes the round to yaw when the tip becomes deformed.

Both Wolf and Barnaul commercial ammo do indeed have this air pocket, as does Golden Tiger. Although the air pocket in the latter is smaller. So, Ruskie FMJ can theoretically do more damage than a hollow point boat tail.

Yeah, gotta love that letter of the Geneva Convention but totally getting around the spirit thing like the British wooden/aluminum plug in front .303 bullet.

This should be legal to hunt with, considering the tissue damage dealt. It is likely far more deadly than 55 gr. .223, the only weight I use. It's (the .223) a short range shredder and shouldn't be asked to be more.

A five round AK-74 mag is probably as hard to find as a 5 round PSL mag though.

Too bad the Bulgarians also use the Cyrillic alphabet, you have to know more than if the letters look funny, it's Russian. They are different and I know the Russian alphabet but not the Bulgarian and I can't tell them apart yet...but I'll figure it out.

P.S. How do you bisect your bullets? Did you use a saw or some kind of wire cutters?

RJ Shooter
09-06-2010, 11:37 AM
I found the image on the "interwebs" LOL!

O.S.O.K.
09-06-2010, 02:44 PM
Those were cut with a bandsaw I am sure. And the bulgy stuff has a circle 10 on the case/cans... easy to spot.

Penguin
09-06-2010, 02:58 PM
Thanks for all the info. I ahd been looking for the answer to that question about a year or two ago an never could find it. That chart was great too.