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FordTech
05-06-2013, 09:24 PM
Hi all,

First of I want to say hello, and compliment all of you on the nice forum you guys have here. This is my first post BTW.

After searching the forum I couldn't find answers to fit my specific questions.

I have just recently aquired a wasr 10/63 rifle. Looks like the year stamped on it is 85, that's the last two of the serial at least. It has the ground off bayo lug/tack welded thread protector on the barrel. Also it says tapco on the trigger, I hear that's important.

What I want to do is:

Install East German furniture (full stock, pistol grip and all)( not wire folder)

Remove the barrel thread protector and install something cooler (slant brake or ak74 style)

Install a new gas block with a unmolested bayo lug

All while using Bakelite mags (maybe)

So what do I have to do to stay legal, from what I understand I already have a USA fire control, but I don't know what else C.I.A changed to make them legal and I don't really want to just jump in without knowing what I can and can't do.

Hope this makes sense, I can take pictures if needed.

Thanks!

imanaknut
05-06-2013, 10:15 PM
Welcome to the group !!! :welcome:

Changing the stock and handguards is not a problem as they are Romanian, so you are replacing imported parts with imported parts. The pistol grip would be a problem as it is one of the counted USA made parts. I you remove the muzzle device and find the barrel threaded, or you thread it yourself if it isn't, just use a USA made muzzle device to maintain your legal parts count at no more than 10 imported parts. Remember, the mag counts as 3 parts, so if you want to install an East German pistol grip, you can install USA made floorplates or followers in the mags you would use with that rifle.

Replacing the gas block is no problem unless you live in a state that doesn't further infringe on your second amendment rights, like New York or kommiefornia.

To help you, the federal code, known in short as 922(r) states you cannot have more than 10 imported parts on an otherwise unimportable rifle. The AKM (WASR-10 in this case) has 15 imported parts as imported assuming no muzzle device or one tack welded or silver soldered to ATF specs, 16 countable parts if the muzzle device is removable. Century normally replaces the fire control group - three parts, the pistol grip and the gas piston. That lowers the imported count to the 10 maximum to be legal.

l921428x
05-07-2013, 12:04 AM
welcome to the group! the more the merrier, enjoy.

FordTech
05-07-2013, 06:30 AM
Thanks guys for the quick responses.

So should be ok as long as I get some American made mag parts and install them in the mags I want to use. One more question, when I install a new brake/compensator, will I have to re-weld it or will it be ok since I will be using an American made brake? Also does any American company make a gas block? Would that count towards 922r compliance?

FordTech
05-07-2013, 08:38 AM
Thought of one other question; how can I tell if the gas piston is US made? I just want to make sure that it is. It looks like, as imanaknut said, the FCG and the pistol grip were swapped to comply with 922r, however I couldn't find any markings on the gas piston. Also if anyone has any sources on parts (all kinds), and furniture ( i love bakelite for some reason) let me know, google pretty much sucks and gives me info from 4 years ago.

imanaknut
05-07-2013, 11:33 AM
I wouldn't worry about the gas piston. The greater majority of AK variants from Century had US made gas pistons and unfortunately they weren't marked. The few that didn't came with mags with USA parts. Century also at one time made their own fire control group parts, and some were marked with the "C" for Century, some weren't.

Gas block is not a counted part.

The muzzle device no longer has to be welded on to the rifle as long as you live in a state that is still free. If you live in one of the socialist states like New York or kommiefornia, you would have to check their requirements of infringement. It just is easier to use a USA made device if you are worried about destroying the universe as we know it by accidentally using 11 imported parts.

(I like that, requirements of infringement!) :smiley31:

Try Apex Gun Parts for furniture and stuff, K-var, Centerfire Systems, Copes Distributing, and Classic Firearms might have what you are looking for. There might be others but it has been many years since I have checked them, so your results might vary. Good luck!

FordTech
05-07-2013, 11:55 AM
Thanks for your help!

Thankfully I live in Delaware where you can still own cool stuff, for at least another week. Being Bidens home state you know they sure are tryin to ruin my fun though. That's why I had to get this rifle before they say I can't. I've owned a zastava m70 (single stack/thumb hole stock) for about 2 years now but I really like this wasr and how closely it resembles an actual AK.


One other thing I haven't been able to find online, when I take the sight and gas block off, will there be grooves in the barrel where the roll pins go? I'm assuming yes.

Thanks again!

imanaknut
05-07-2013, 03:05 PM
Yes, there are grooves for the cross pins that hold the gas and sight blocks in place. Be careful that you get correct replacement parts as the pin location isn't the same on all AKMs. The slots do make it nice when pressing the blocks back in place, but you still might have to run a drill through them to make sure you can get the pins in place. It might look like they are lined up, but if they are off by even .001 the pin might not go in.