Questions on my P.O.F. Enfield

[Richard Simmons]

Years ago I picked up a P.O.F. No4, MKII dated 1957 in a local shop. Seems like I paid $125-$150. Came with the spike bayonet and other than the usual dings and dents it's in G-VG condition. I've never shot it but I have tore it down and cleaned/oiled it. Bore looks fine. My questions are as follows:

Where these made in Pakistan or assembled there using British parts or a combination, (Paki receiver on British parts kit)? I almost never see these for sale or auction. Are they rare?

Mine seems as well made and solid and any other Enfield I've owned, is it up to the same standards as the British No4?

What's is the value on one of these?

Lastly, anyone else have one?

TIA

[Richard Simmons]

No one?

[El Laton Caliente]

Wish I could help, but I'm no Enfield expert. All I have is a No. 5...

[Helen Keller]

Didnt catch this one.


I had one years ago and they are around.

There's LOTS of POF Enfields, guy down the road has a #5 he got for $25.



just examine the parts, whats stamped on them?



Alot of the POF receivers are way stronger than the usual Brit made guns. As for price, it's a collector thing. A shop would take a look and see it's POF and toss a low price on it cause "they" consider them inferior/knock-offs ( go figure)

Again price is determined by how hard a collector is to get one, IE: I got my last Savage NO.4 for $225 cause theres no demand in this area, POF would probly bring even lower.


on your shoulder at a gun show you could go $300 even $400 and the right guy will bite .

[APEXgunparts]

Years ago I picked up a P.O.F. No4, MKII dated 1957 in a local shop. Seems like I paid $125-$150. Came with the spike bayonet and other than the usual dings and dents it's in G-VG condition. I've never shot it but I have tore it down and cleaned/oiled it. Bore looks fine. My questions are as follows:

Where these made in Pakistan or assembled there using British parts or a combination, (Paki receiver on British parts kit)? I almost never see these for sale or auction. Are they rare?

Mine seems as well made and solid and any other Enfield I've owned, is it up to the same standards as the British No4?

What's is the value on one of these?

Lastly, anyone else have one?

TIA

I have one of the POF #4 rifles & I know of several more in the hands of collectors in the Denver area.
From what I have learned these wee made on machinery that Pakistan purchased from BSA in the 1950's.
Once the L1A1 was adpoted there was no more need to keep the production capacity in the UK.
Some of the POF rifles have a mid-barrel band with a hole drilled thru on each side that matches up with a relief cut in the stock.
This is to mount a bi-pod (I have seen examples of them here.)
Lots of interesting variants when you collect Lee-Enfields!

Richard

[silentkilla]

I have one of the POF #4 rifles & I know of several more in the hands of collectors in the Denver area.
From what I have learned these wee made on machinery that Pakistan purchased from BSA in the 1950's.
Once the L1A1 was adpoted there was no more need to keep the production capacity in the UK.
Some of the POF rifles have a mid-barrel band with a hole drilled thru on each side that matches up with a relief cut in the stock.
This is to mount a bi-pod (I have seen examples of them here.)
Lots of interesting variants when you collect Lee-Enfields!

Richard

sorry to change the subject richard but i'm looking for a troy Alpha rail 13 inch do you have any ? and how much if so for a 556 ar

[MJ1]

To the OP I would say post a picture. The key to your question in in two parts.
1. Condition.
2. Condition.

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[APEXgunparts]

To the OP I would say post a picture. The key to your question in in two parts.
1. Condition.
2. Condition.

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That is certainly a handsome Savage #4 MKI !!
Not many Lee-Enfields coming into the USA since that big lot came in from Turkey some years ago.

Richard

[APEXgunparts]

sorry to change the subject richard but i'm looking for a troy Alpha rail 13 inch do you have any ? and how much if so for a 556 ar

Sorry, I do not carry the "TROY" line of accessories.
Please check the web site as we carry other brands.
If it is listed, we have it in stock!
Thank you for considering APEX Gun Parts for your purchase!

Richard

[silentkilla]

Sorry, I do not carry the "TROY" line of accessories.
Please check the web site as we carry other brands.
If it is listed, we have it in stock!
Thank you for considering APEX Gun Parts for your purchase!

Richard

no worries brother! thanks for letting me know and for the quick response! you will always have my business!

[O.S.O.K.]

Mine's a Faz. Do post a pic. :)

[Penguin]

no worries brother! thanks for letting me know and for the quick response! you will always have my business!

I have delt with APEX dseveral times. Great guys I am sure I will get stuff from them again.

One of these days though I need to get an SMLE. Prefrebly Australian or Canadian.

[MJ1]

Once again we have lost our way.

Anyone doing any water sports?

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Flying?
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As long as we are talking selling rails I'm dumping some junk too.

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[silentkilla]

sorry for derailing the thread man. just never see richard from apex on alot and i needed a freakin rail badly. found one at midway though. by the way there running a clearance sale today only.

[MJ1]

That is certainly a handsome Savage #4 MKI !!
Not many Lee-Enfields coming into the USA since that big lot came in from Turkey some years ago.

Richard

Yes the Savage made #4s are some of the best quality Enfields ever made. I have seen some very nice POFs too and hope the OP puts up a photo otherwise he won't get clean opinions.

1942 Savage rifles by H&H

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[Richard Simmons]

I'll try and get it dug out and photographed this weekend. Thanks to all for the replies.

[APEXgunparts]

Yes the Savage made #4s are some of the best quality Enfields ever made. I have seen some very nice POFs too and hope the OP puts up a photo otherwise he won't get clean opinions.

1942 Savage rifles by H&H

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/e45cec25.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/montereyjack/media/e45cec25.jpg.html)

OK, now I am envious!
You see a lot of #4 sniper rifles, but not many Savages, and certainly not all are that clean!

Richard

[Schuetzenman]

Yes the Savage made #4s are some of the best quality Enfields ever made. I have seen some very nice POFs too and hope the OP puts up a photo otherwise he won't get clean opinions.

1942 Savage rifles by H&H

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/e45cec25.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/montereyjack/media/e45cec25.jpg.html)

Wow really nice T model snipers!

[MJ1]

I'm not preferential I'll like an M47 also.

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Still waiting for the photo from the original poster.

........MJ.........