Crowd stunned after valedictorian rips up speech, recites Lord’s prayer

[5.56NATO]

A South Carolina valedictorian garnered wild applause after he ripped up his pre-approved speech and delivered the Lord’s prayer at his high school graduation on Saturday.

The act was apparently in protest of the Pickens County School District’s decision to no longer include prayer at graduation ceremonies, Christian News reported. Officials said the decision was made after the district was barraged with complaints by atheist groups.


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[FunkyPertwee]

Proud to be from SC!

[rci2950]

that feels good. It is about time people started standing up to the loony left progressives.

[Cypher]

Good for him. Amazing how a minority of people can cause them to change their policies.

Maybe we have it wrong, maybe conservatives should start whining like little babies every time we want to force our opinions on someone else like liberals do. Apparently all it takes is a small percentage and most groups break like a little twig.

[LAGC]

A lot of people don't realize that school prayer is fine as long as its voluntary, initiated by the student(s) and not faculty.

The only problem comes when the school endorses it and mandates it as part of compulsory services, effectively forcing it on everyone.

[Kadmos]

Good for him. Amazing how a minority of people can cause them to change their policies.

Maybe we have it wrong, maybe conservatives should start whining like little babies every time we want to force our opinions on someone else like liberals do. Apparently all it takes is a small percentage and most groups break like a little twig.

Start? Conservatives, especially the religious ones are some of the whiniest people I've ever met! Somebody say's Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas within one month of the 25th and some of you all have hissy fits. Someone doesn't want their kid to be forced to say "In Jesus name, Amen" in the public school we all pay for and it's some giant deal.

[studmuffin]

Kad trying to press buttons again.

[Oswald Bastable]

Start? Conservatives, especially the religious ones are some of the whiniest people I've ever met! Somebody say's Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas within one month of the 25th and some of you all have hissy fits. Someone doesn't want their kid to be forced to say "In Jesus name, Amen" in the public school we all pay for and it's some giant deal.

Don't worry...within 20 years they'll all be banging their heads on the floor 5 times a day.

[El Jefe]

Kad trying to press buttons again.

Make no mistake, it's why he and LAQC are here.

[Schuetzenman]

Good for him. Amazing how a minority of people can cause them to change their policies.

Maybe we have it wrong, maybe conservatives should start whining like little babies every time we want to force our opinions on someone else like liberals do. Apparently all it takes is a small percentage and most groups break like a little twig.

It's because the anti's are well funded by the "Destroy American Liberties Organization" publicly known as the ACLU. The school districts don't have the money to fight the law suits these scum bring against them so they just give in to get the rabid ACLU monkeys off their backs.

[Kadmos]

Kad trying to press buttons again.

I'm really not.

75%+ of Americans self identify as Christian.

Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists combined only make up 4% of the population.

15% of Americans claim no religious affiliation.


There are roughly 500,000 Christian churches in this country

3,700 Jewish Synagogues

2,100 Mosques



Seriously, quit freaking out because someone said "Happy Holidays"...ya'll are doing just fine.

[Richard Simmons]

I'm really not.

75%+ of Americans self identify as Christian.

Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists combined only make up 4% of the population.

15% of Americans claim no religious affiliation.


There are roughly 500,000 Christian churches in this country

3,700 Jewish Synagogues

2,100 Mosques



Seriously, quit freaking out because someone said "Happy Holidays"...ya'll are doing just fine.

The problem, which I'm sure you already know is not someone saying "Happy Holidays" instead of Merry Christmas but with liberals demanding that no one say Merry Christmas. Same goes with the "holiday tree". Liberals don't want a "holiday tree" AND a Christmas tree. They only want a "holiday tree".

[slamfire51]

I'm really not.

75%+ of Americans self identify as Christian.

Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists combined only make up 4% of the population.

15% of Americans claim no religious affiliation.


There are roughly 500,000 Christian churches in this country

3,700 Jewish Synagogues

2,100 Mosques



Seriously, quit freaking out because someone said "Happy Holidays"...ya'll are doing just fine.

Only when the likes of you and the ACLU stop freaking when WE say 'Christmas Tree'.

[weevil]

The problem, which I'm sure you already know is not someone saying "Happy Holidays" instead of Merry Christmas but with liberals demanding that no one say Merry Christmas. Same goes with the "holiday tree". Liberals don't want a "holiday tree" AND a Christmas tree. They only want a "holiday tree".



Exactly!

This isn't about not being religious it's about persecuting those who are.

Actually "religious" is the wrong word as any and all religions are put on pedestal as long as it's not Christianity.

[LAGC]

Who exactly is "forcing" people to say "Happy Holidays?"

A lot of corporate retailers and what not prefer to use the term, just to be more inclusive, since Hanukkah and other faith-based holidays fall around the same time.

Some Christians are just pissed that their privilege of being singled out and hogging all the lime-light is somehow being diminished by society recognizing other faith-traditions.

What's funny is: Jesus wasn't even born on December 25, the (Catholic) Church stole that holiday from the pagans (Saturnalia), just like with Easter (Eostre).

And the whole notion of a "Christmas" tree didn't come into play until just 500 years ago in Germany, not being exported to other countries until three centuries later. Jesus had nothing to do with it, and it appears nowhere in the Bible.

[Helen Keller]

That's not the point...

Libtard fucktards want anything with the word "Christ" in it vanquished from existence. They want "NOTHING" except for you to WORK WORK WORK so they can waste all those tax dollars buying more votes through fraud and welfare.







When it comes to you commie pigdogs , I'll sell all my cloaks and buy a Big Fuckin Sword.

[slamfire51]

Who exactly is "forcing" people to say "Happy Holidays?"

A lot of corporate retailers and what not prefer to use the term, just to be more inclusive, since Hanukkah and other faith-based holidays fall around the same time.

Some Christians are just pissed that their privilege of being singled out and hogging all the lime-light is somehow being diminished by society recognizing other faith-traditions.

What's funny is: Jesus wasn't even born on December 25, the (Catholic) Church stole that holiday from the pagans (Saturnalia), just like with Easter (Eostre).

And the whole notion of a "Christmas" tree didn't come into play until just 500 years ago in Germany, not being exported to other countries until three centuries later. Jesus had nothing to do with it, and it appears nowhere in the Bible.

The point is, the things you despise are AMERICAN TRADITIONS, not some Johnny come lately libtard, socialist, anti-American politically correct jibberish.

[Kadmos]

The problem, which I'm sure you already know is not someone saying "Happy Holidays" instead of Merry Christmas but with liberals demanding that no one say Merry Christmas. Same goes with the "holiday tree". Liberals don't want a "holiday tree" AND a Christmas tree. They only want a "holiday tree".

To be honest I have no idea what you are talking about, if I see a green tree between Thanksgiving and New Years with decorations on it, then it's a "Christmas Tree".

Unless it says "Happy Birthday Jenny" or some crap, then it's obviously a Christmas tree.

For the week before and leading up to Christmas day I will say "Merry Christmas" to people who I don't know to be Jewish, Muslim, etc. If I can reasonably suspect you might be Christian, then that week you get a "Merry Christmas" from me, and on that week if you tell me "Happy Holidays" I will reply "Merry Christmas".

I do it because I figure you all want to hear it and I truly hope you do have a merry Christmas, that apparently is your big holiday and I want you to enjoy it.

That's just basic politeness.

But understand that not everyone celebrates your holiday and don't expect them to. I may be kind enough to say "Merry Christmas" on occasion, and I am never ever going to say "Don't celebrate Christmas", but don't expect that the whole world is going to kiss your ass and want to put up decorations using public money, on public property or want your prayers forced on our kids in public schools.

I don't expect you to pay for Menorahs to be put up on public land for Hanukkah. I don't want you to pay for that, I don't need for you to pay for that, and moreover that isn't where the things belong anyway.

Yes, I know some dumb Jew forced some town, village, city, whatever to put up menorahs next to baby Jesus in front of City hall somewhere. It was stupid, neither of those things belong there....like I said there are half a million Church's where you can put the Nativity scene out front, and of course 200 million houses where you can do the same, add in several million businesses which can chose to do the same.

If it's not up at a public school or on the court house lawn nobody is likely to forget that it's Christmastime! Because the stuff is literally everywhere else!

But you know what, I think that's fair....if you are going to insist on putting it at city hall, the courthouse, the post office, public schools....then yes, what the hell, those ones I'm going to insist be called "Holiday Trees"....we all know what they are, but if your going to put them there, yeah it's fair to call them Holiday Trees...and if there is a Menorah next to it then you go right ahead and call it a "Holiday Menorah" rather than a "Hanukkah Menorah", I'm fine with that.

[Oswald Bastable]

But you know what, I think that's fair....if you are going to insist on putting it at city hall, the courthouse, the post office, public schools....then yes, what the hell, those ones I'm going to insist be called "Holiday Trees"....we all know what they are, but if your going to put them there, yeah it's fair to call them Holiday Trees...and if there is a Menorah next to it then you go right ahead and call it a "Holiday Menorah" rather than a "Hanukkah Menorah", I'm fine with that.

Will you be even happier when "Allahu Akbar" is the anthem of the land?

[Kadmos]

Will you be even happier when "Allahu Akbar" is the anthem of the land?

Hell no!

The Star Spangled Banner is the anthem of the land. And I'm even basically fine with the line "And this be our motto, "In God is our trust" that no one sings anymore (along with the other whole two dropped verses).

But I have no problem with the Muslims wanting to put another 1,000 or 10,000 or 100,000 mosques here either.

So long as we keep the 1st amendment as law of the land and keep the separation of church (or mosque) and state, then it's not an issue. That's the beauty of the system...if you stick to what's actually important to maintain everyone's freedom then it's fine.

But if you insist on pushing Christianity now then don't be surprised if someone else pushes Islam, or Buddhism, or whatever 50 years from now.

[l921428x]

Hell no!

The Star Spangled Banner is the anthem of the land. And I'm even basically fine with the line "And this be our motto, "In God is our trust" that no one sings anymore (along with the other whole two dropped verses).

But I have no problem with the Muslims wanting to put another 1,000 or 10,000 or 100,000 mosques here either.

So long as we keep the 1st amendment as law of the land and keep the separation of church (or mosque) and state, then it's not an issue. That's the beauty of the system...if you stick to what's actually important to maintain everyone's freedom then it's fine.

But if you insist on pushing Christianity now then don't be surprised if someone else pushes Islam, or Buddhism, or whatever 50 years from now.

the difference between christians and islam is the fact that christians wont cut your dumbass head off if you DO NOT COMPLY. your choice
if you think there is global warming, do not drive a car or use electricity. be honest.
if you dont like christmas do not participate, leave the rest of us alone.
if you do not like firearms do not own one and leave the rest of us alone.
if you do not believe in god or a god fine leave the rest of us alone.
you can already kill babies, you can phaq each other in the anus, you have indorsed death panels,
you have made the use of free speech a crime, sell guns to gangs, wire tap the press, use the irs to intimadate,
use colleges to indoctrinate.

im sure i have missed a thing or two, but you tolerant people on the left are really FUCKING busy.
leave me alone.
Islam will not leave you alone. World domination is the ONLY plan!!

http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/islam-slavery-and-rape/

your choice

[Kadmos]

the difference between christians and islam is the fact that christians wont cut your dumbass head off if you DO NOT COMPLY.


In the here and now that is still only partly true.

Either way, 2000 years of history still had plenty of Christians who were more than eager to do horrible things to Jews.




if you dont like christmas do not participate, leave the rest of us alone.

I love Christmas. The lights, the music, the decorations, the whole peace on earth and goodwill towards man...love it.

But, no, I don't practice it. It's not my religion.

And you are making the point I'm trying to make "Leave the rest of us alone".

That is exactly what I want!

That is what the people who don't want mandated prayer in public schools want...we want to be left alone.

We want to know this is a CIVIL society, not a religious one. That the government aspect of things is based on logic, fairness, and is equal for all. That the people are free to worship, or decide not to worship, how they chose. That me or you or anyone else isn't going to be treated differently under the law because of their faith. That our kids aren't going to be made to feel uncomfortable in our own schools because someone thinks all the kids need to be bowing to Allah right now, or Jesus, or whatever.

We want to be left alone

[Cypher]

Start? Conservatives, especially the religious ones are some of the whiniest people I've ever met! Somebody say's Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas within one month of the 25th and some of you all have hissy fits. Someone doesn't want their kid to be forced to say "In Jesus name, Amen" in the public school we all pay for and it's some giant deal.
http://tomohalloran.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/red-sates-blue-states.jpg





The problem, which I'm sure you already know is not someone saying "Happy Holidays" instead of Merry Christmas but with liberals demanding that no one say Merry Christmas. Same goes with the "holiday tree". Liberals don't want a "holiday tree" AND a Christmas tree. They only want a "holiday tree".



The point is, the things you despise are AMERICAN TRADITIONS, not some Johnny come lately libtard, socialist, anti-American politically correct jibberish.

Exactly, I could care less if someone says Happy Holidays, it doesn't offend me one bit or doesn't want their kids to pray in school it's their choice. What I do care about is when libs try to force me to stop saying Merry CHRISTmas or try to make me feel guilty or like I am not being considerate of non-Christians feelings, I could not give two turds if a non-Christians is offended because I say Merry CHRISTmas.

[El Laton Caliente]

Hell no!

The Star Spangled Banner is the anthem of the land. And I'm even basically fine with the line "And this be our motto, "In God is our trust" that no one sings anymore (along with the other whole two dropped verses).

But I have no problem with the Muslims wanting to put another 1,000 or 10,000 or 100,000 mosques here either.

So long as we keep the 1st amendment as law of the land and keep the separation of church (or mosque) and state, then it's not an issue. That's the beauty of the system...if you stick to what's actually important to maintain everyone's freedom then it's fine.

But if you insist on pushing Christianity now then don't be surprised if someone else pushes Islam, or Buddhism, or whatever 50 years from now.

The first amendment is not compatible with Islam; that is a one or the other choice... No other religion is compatible with Islam. Just look at the tolerance in any (and more important, every) majority Islamic country...


So long as we keep the 1st amendment as law of the land and keep the separation of church (or mosque) and state, then it's not an issue.

Please show me this statement in the constitution or any of it's amendments or even in Federal law passed by Congress.

[LAGC]

The first amendment is not compatible with Islam; that is a one or the other choice... No other religion is compatible with Islam. Just look at the tolerance in any (and more important, every) majority Islamic country...

I don't know, Turkey is pretty liberal and secular, despite the current Islamist president trying to impose creeping Sharia -- but it sounds like he's really pissed off many of his people (especially younger folks who are much more open and tolerant), so hopefully he will be shown the door next election-cycle and things like mandatory head-scarves will be reversed.

There's no doubt the "Holy" Koran is full of some pretty detestable shit, but then again so is the "Holy" Bible. If we can get Christianity watered down to a point where hardly anyone takes it literally or seriously any more, the same can be done with Islam. But its going to take reformers from within, just like with Christianity's Renaissance.

[L1A1Rocker]

It's real simple. . .


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

Lefties just want to ignore it.

[Kadmos]

The first amendment is not compatible with Islam; that is a one or the other choice... No other religion is compatible with Islam. Just look at the tolerance in any (and more important, every) majority Islamic country...

Sorry, but that's not true. First off the same could have been said for Christianity right up until the time the 1st Amendment was written. Jews got kicked out of pretty much every country in Europe at one time or another, Jews got murdered all over Europe simply for being Jews. That is the "tolerance" of Christianity also, it's true history.

Yes Jews also had it rough in Muslim lands. For the most part, until the founding of Israel, Jews could pay a modest fee and remain in Muslim lands, as Jews, and under the protection of the Sultans.

Yes, things have changed now, but there is no guarantee that they won't change again.

Except in America, where there is a guarantee, the 1st Amendment. That's when the change happened in the first place. When the law stated that a persons religion didn't matter in matters of law.

And it works for ANY religion, not just Christianity. If we adhere to the 1st then the Muslims can't force anyone else to do shit here, not with the power of the law.

And that's the deal...keep religion out of government, keep government out of religion, and we don't get pushed around by Christians now, and possibly Muslims later.

When you push for people to bow down in public places then you pave the way for Muslims to make the rest of us do it later.


Please show me this statement in the constitution or any of it's amendments or even in Federal law passed by Congress.

It is embodied in Article 6 of the Constitution, which states that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States"

It is further affirmed in the 1st Amendment, and in the Equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.

The phrase "separation of church and state" of course isn't specifically stated, but the ideal is certainly present.

[JTHunter]

Don't worry...within 20 years they'll all be banging their heads on the floor 5 times a day.

There was a recent email that stated Tyson Foods had decided to dump the Labor Day holiday in favor of the Muslim holiday of Ramadan!
Don't know if it's true but the letter claime it was because they have several hundred muzzy employees.

[L1A1Rocker]

There was a recent email that stated Tyson Foods had decided to dump the Labor Day holiday in favor of the Muslim holiday of Ramadan!
Don't know if it's true but the letter claime it was because they have several hundred muzzy employees.

It's true, but it wasn't Ramadan:


Tyson Foods, Inc. did, in fact, agree to a contract with the Retail, Wholesale and Department Stores Union in mid-2008 providing workers in the company's Shelbyville, Tennessee poultry processing plant a paid day off on the Muslim holiday of Eid al-Fitr instead of Labor Day. However, the contract was revised to reinstate Labor Day after a public outcry ensued.

Eid al-Fitr is the "festival of fast-breaking" which occurs every autumn after the month-long fast known in Islam as Ramadan. RWDSU negotiators had asked for the Muslim holiday on behalf of the approximately 250 Somali refugees who work at the plant, which employs a total of about 1,200 people.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/business/a/tyson_foods.htm

[Oswald Bastable]

Either way, 2000 years of history still had plenty of Christians who were more than eager to do horrible things to Jews.

But what have they done for you lately?

[JTHunter]

Rocker - thanks for the clarification!

[az_paul]

BRAVO for the kid! He's got more balls than any of the stuffed shirt, crappy politicians in Washington, that are entrusted to look out for America.

[LAGC]

BRAVO for the kid! He's got more balls than...

"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking." --Matthew 6:5-7, King James Version