The Ammo Shortage of 2013

[recon]

We have seen the enemy, and it is us!

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2013/06/12/ammo-shortage-2013/

[imanaknut]

Doing my thing for the shortage. Haven't purchased any ammo in over 2 years! Now when I go to the range, I don't bring cases of ammo. I load up a few mags, and take my time aim shooting. Shooting my rifles for accuracy and not as much for fun. Shooting my pistols just to keep my skills sharp.

Hard to believe that in the "glory days" of cheap ammo (.22LR @ $6/brick, 9mm @ $110/case, .223 brass @ $140/case, and 7.62x39 @ $75/case) my daughter and I would hit the range with several cases and minimum of two bricks, and come home one self-defense mag short of empty.

[Schuetzenman]

:crazy:Stop hoarding ammo he says, try to tell that to people and I'm sure you really will impress them with your logic. :rolleyes:

[alismith]

I'm still having a hard time believing this shortage is caused, mostly, by us. I understand the panic buying part, but I still feel the main culprit is the Fed. buying all that ammo that precipitated this mess. Amazing how the two instances (panic buying and DHS orders) just happened to coincide...

[rshaneck2002]

ATF anyone?

[recon]

Plus we are at war.

[AK-J]

I think what the biggest problem we're seeing right now is the "speculators" are buying up supply as soon as it hits the shelves and re-selling it online or locally with a 200-400% mark up. You can find all the ammo you want, as long as you're willing to pay 2-4 times what it should cost. This crap will die down as soon as people stop paying these ridiculous prices to those jackals.

[l921428x]

I'm still having a hard time believing this shortage is caused, mostly, by us. I understand the panic buying part, but I still feel the main culprit is the Fed. buying all that ammo that precipitated this mess. Amazing how the two instances (panic buying and DHS orders) just happened to coincide...

so they could give it to the REBELS in syria

[El Laton Caliente]

I think what the biggest problem we're seeing right now is the "speculators" are buying up supply as soon as it hits the shelves and re-selling it online or locally with a 200-400% mark up. You can find all the ammo you want, as long as you're willing to pay 2-4 times what it should cost. This crap will die down as soon as people stop paying these ridiculous prices to those jackals.

This...

I've had the Walmart and Academe employees tell me most of the ammo is being purchased by two families first thing in the morning. They are reselling the ammo at three times theprice on classifieds and online...

[JTHunter]

I went to the ECA gunshow in Belleville, IL today to price some ammo.
While there was more of certain items, it was NOT a pleasant outing.
What I was really looking for was .22LR, .22 Mag, .380, .38 Spec., and .357.

Here's the bad news:

.22LR
American Eagle - $50 for 500;
CCI Blazers - $60 for 500;
Centurion (?) - $45 for 500;
Rem. Golden - $65 for 525. :wow:

22 Mag
CCI TNT V-Max - $28 for 50 (had been $12.50 at the show 2 months ago);
Hornady V-Max - $25 for 50 (also $12.50 at last show).

.380
The only ammo I could even find was Speer Gold Dot, 20 rds., 90 gr. JHP and it has gone from $19.99 to $25 at one dealer and $28 at another!

38 Sp.
Fed Prem. (part # XM38HSIG, 129 gr.) $35/50;
Hornady Critical Defense FTX (part #90311, 110 gr.) - up to $24 (from $20) for 25 rds.;
PMC (132 gr FMJ) - up $2 to $22/50;
Speer Gold Dot (part # 23921, 135 gr.) - $27 for 20 rds.;
Winchester Bonded PDX1 (130 gr.) - up $2.50 to $25 for 20 rds.

.357
Hornady Critical Defense XTP (125 gr.) - $23/25 rds., up $1;
Rem. Golden Saber (125 gr.) - two months ago, this same dealer was selling it for $20 for 25 rds. Now, they are selling at $33 for the same 25 rds.!!:swear: :dizzy:

[alismith]

A little more ammo is showing up on WalMart's shelves around here (and staying there a little longer, too). I've been able to get .22 LR and 7.62x39 without much trouble. They had lots of boxes of Tula .308 and other brands of 9mm. and .45 Auto. I'll start checking every morning around 7 to see what they have. So far, I've only been able to get there in the afternoons.

Went to a gun shop in DE and he has shelves of ammo (at a decent markup, I might add) and picked up a box of ,32 Auto for $35. Only needed one box for a friend, so I paid the price.

Maybe the panic buying is starting to ease a little.

[recon]

Gun shows are always highly priced.

[Schuetzenman]

Gun shows are always highly priced.

They didn't use to be at least not where and when I was a dealer. Multiple dealers selling the same thing should foster price competition. The fact the ammo prices are so high is reflective of the difficulty for them to source any ammo to sell. Because they can't easily get it they are raising the price to do 2 things; slow down sales and maximize cash flow to make up for a lack of volume to sell. That said as stated earlier the prices will go down ONLY when people stop buying at high prices. This will allow the pipeline to fill up again so that supplies are back as they were. Only then will prices get sane.

[alismith]

Made a decent score on ammo at WalMart today. Picked up 2 half-bricks of Federal .22 LR, a value pack of Winchester .223 JHP, a regular box of FMJ 5.56, 2 boxes of Tula 9mm, and a box of Federal FMJ 9mm. The good thing is it wasn't overpriced like it is at most gun stores.

Hopefully, this is a trend in more ammo coming out now.

[alismith]

Bought 2 boxes of .30-30 yesterday at WalMart. Didn't have anything else I was interested in. There's still quite a bit of .243 and .270 left on the shelves.

[turdypointbuck]

Not much in Northwest AR on the shelves! Hard to find even 22!! Unless like was said,paying for it online!

[ltorlo64]

Not much in Northwest AR on the shelves! Hard to find even 22!! Unless like was said,paying for it online!

.22LR is the only thing I haven't seen returning. Granted, most does not sit on the shelves long, but I do see it. The only .22 I see is in my ammo boxes!

[FunkyPertwee]

.22LR is the only thing I haven't seen returning. Granted, most does not sit on the shelves long, but I do see it. The only .22 I see is in my ammo boxes!

Palmetto State Armory has some 22lr in stock. Its almost down to 10 cent per round.

[El Laton Caliente]

I've picked up a couple boxes of .22LR twice in the last several weeks, but it is no where near being able to walk in and buy what every you want...

[Schuetzenman]

Aim Surplus is taking orders for Czech Seller & Belloit .22 LR target ammo that is coming in. Add says it is Eley primed so should be noncorrosive. As it is Match ammo the speed should be in the 1100 fps range. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=ASB22LR&name=Czech+Military+Sellier+%26+Bellot+.22lr+Targe t+Grade+50rd+Box&groupid=6 It comes out to about 9 cents a round if you buy a case of over 6,000 rounds. The less than full case price is about 10 cents a round. I'm tempted to order some but a full case is nearly $600 plus shipping.

[slamfire51]

Aim Surplus is taking orders for Czech Seller & Belloit .22 LR target ammo that is coming in. Add says it is Eley primed so should be noncorrosive. As it is Match ammo the speed should be in the 1100 fps range. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=ASB22LR&name=Czech+Military+Sellier+%26+Bellot+.22lr+Targe t+Grade+50rd+Box&groupid=6 It comes out to about 9 cents a round if you buy a case of over 6,000 rounds. The less than full case price is about 10 cents a round. I'm tempted to order some but a full case is nearly $600 plus shipping.

Good to see ammo coming in, but still a little steep in price.
Hopefully when more and more ammo does show up, it won't be at the crazy ass panic prices.

[alismith]

Scored 3 bricks (550 rnds./brick) at WalMart today. They were $23.97/brick. The clerk said that's the first .22 lr he's seen all summer. This was late in the morning and the ammo was still on the shelf. I think the "regular" panic buyers are slowing down now.

[recon]

Lets hope so.

[imanaknut]

Local Gander overpriced Mountain is advertising that their ammo supply is up to what it was before the stampede.

Hoping this is a sign that the government has stopped buying up the ammo and manufacturers are finally able to ship to we the people on in fact used to be "the government".

[NAPOTS]

Local Gander overpriced Mountain is advertising that their ammo supply is up to what it was before the stampede.

Hoping this is a sign that the government has stopped buying up the ammo and manufacturers are finally able to ship to we the people on in fact used to be "the government".

Why the purple, there may actually be some truth to that.

[alismith]

Went back to WalMart looking for some .30-30 ammo, but they were sold out. I did pick up a bargain box of 100 20-gauge hunting shells for $24. Not too bad in price.

So far, I haven't seen much in the way of .303 British or 8mm. I guess the odder calibers are still scarce.

[slamfire51]

I received a flyer from Century, and they will be offering 303 and other calibers that are hard to find shortly, if not already.
HOT SHOT is the brand. I know nothing about them. Does anyone here have any info, good or bad?
I also need some 303 for the Enfield.

[imanaknut]

Keep looking at prices of .22LR and I wish I never new the day when a brick was $6 and if you bought by the case load - 10 bricks/5000 rounds - you got a 10% discount.

I also remember that brick going on sale for $5.

Saw CCI Blazer 525 pack for the bargain price of $39.95.

[alismith]

Just went to a local WalMart and they had tons of hunting ammo on the shelves. .308., .30-30, .30-06, 7mmMag, .270, .243, .223, and quite a few different caliber, centerfire ammo. I was looking for .22LR, but that was sold out. Gonna check out the one in the town I work in tomorrow.