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Aaron1100us
06-30-2013, 10:06 PM
Getting a 1917 #1 mk3 this week from a friend. Shot one for the first time a few weeks ago. Neat looking guns. I have a thing for old wood and steel guns. And this is going to be my first bolt action.

Was going to get a Mosin next but his came along and I think they look cooler than a Mosin. I still plan on getting a Mosin and already shoot 54 in my Tiger.

My friend is going to head space it, check the bore and measure the crown for me. Just imagine the history of something like this? I like thay the stock goea clear to the end of the barrel. Kinda unique looking.

I'll post pics as soon as I get it. Would love to see pics of other's #1 mk3's.





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Aaron1100us
07-04-2013, 11:49 AM
Just got done shooting it :). I usually suck shooting open sights. Hit a half gallon milk jug @100 yards. It just feels so natural to hold.

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Aaron1100us
07-04-2013, 03:47 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/05/gagy6age.jpg

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Richard Simmons
07-04-2013, 04:18 PM
Congratulations. I've got one made at Lithgow in Australia that I believe is the same year.

Aaron1100us
07-04-2013, 04:39 PM
cool. This is my first bolt action besides my daughter's Savage Rascal. Everything else is semi auto.
The action is quicker than what I was expecting, pretty smooth. I think the fact that it is almost completely covered in wood is cool. Its easier to hold thany Dragunov even though its bigger. Got it all cleaned up and put some Old English on the wood. Looks beautiful now.

Overall, Id say its in good condition. Not many marks on the wood, steel has no rust but wear marks as can be expected. The only issue with the metal is that a few barrel bands had rust once and have been corroded. But it looks like the rust had been taken off. Figure as long as I keep in clean and oiled, it should last many more years.

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Helen Keller
07-04-2013, 05:10 PM
:thumbsup::thumbsup:


other than oiling it , it doesnt need anything else. Maybe a sling.


I'd like to get ahold of another for my Enfield lineup.

I got another Bren MkI/II coming so bolt actions gonna have to wait .

Aaron1100us
07-05-2013, 03:31 AM
Question. My friend I got it from said it was a 1917. Looking at the band on the stock, I see the number 1911. Is that the date or something else? Maybe he mistook the last 1 for a 7?

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Helen Keller
07-05-2013, 06:10 AM
looks like 1911 to me. The "7's" are usually struck a little higher.


My last Smelly was 1913

Aaron1100us
07-05-2013, 06:39 AM
Cool. Older than I thought. 102 years old and shoots great.

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Aaron1100us
07-05-2013, 07:37 AM
Just watched a youtube video of a guy shooting one of these at a 1,000 yard target with open sights. 6 misses and 6 hits. The target was a 36 inch plate. I couldnt even see a target that far away. These guns must be really accurate?

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Helen Keller
07-05-2013, 07:45 AM
I did it with the one i had once i figured out the range for the ammo I was using.

El Laton Caliente
07-05-2013, 11:32 AM
I've been wanting one of those since I bought the No 5...

Helen Keller
07-05-2013, 11:40 AM
i cant tell from the pic , is the mag cut-off present???





I wish I never sold my lithgow smle.. had a perfect blond stock , not a mark anywhere and 100% match.

Penguin
07-05-2013, 01:41 PM
Cool looking rifle. I would like to get an SMLE some day. Preferbly a Litgow or a longbranch if I couldn't find a Lithgow.

Aaron1100us
07-05-2013, 09:06 PM
Is the mag cut off the mag release? As far as I can tell, everything is there.

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Penguin
07-06-2013, 07:22 AM
No the mag cut off would be a lever that makes it so the rifle doens't feed from the magazine and works as a single shot.

Aaron1100us
07-06-2013, 07:56 AM
Ok, thanks for the explanation. I'll take a look and see if it does. Is it supposed to have one?

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Richard Simmons
07-06-2013, 10:34 AM
Ok, thanks for the explanation. I'll take a look and see if it does. Is it supposed to have one?

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If it's in it's original MKIII configuration is should have the cutoff, left side of receiver as I recall and a long range volley sight, also left side of receiver. If it's been converted to MKIII* then those two feature should have been removed.

Look here to see the sight and cutoff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee-Enfield

Aaron1100us
07-06-2013, 06:01 PM
I don't think it has a place for the volley sights. My friend that I got this from has another one with the volley sights. He said that was a Cadet one or something. I don't see a lever of a mag cut off.

Here are some more pics.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/07/yvusehat.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/07/ta7u5egy.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/07/be4evesa.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/07/2apuruty.jpg

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Aaron1100us
07-06-2013, 07:07 PM
On the top, it is marked 2nd M.D. What does that mean?

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Aaron1100us
07-07-2013, 09:31 PM
any thoughts

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Aaron1100us
07-08-2013, 06:52 PM
Ordered 5 clips that should be here this week. Now I can show people what the difference between clips and magazines are.

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Helen Keller
07-09-2013, 04:32 AM
buy the enfield books.

https://www.northcapepubs.com/#anchor271559

well worth the $$ spent and you'll basically never have to ask anyone anything about enfields again.

rjwnz
07-28-2013, 04:58 AM
2 MD is an australian issue, 2nd military district, usually state by state ie queensland or nsw, it means it was there for the defence and use of that state, ie police, prisons, civil defence etc, and with that early year date means it was one of the first bought from the uk for aussie purchases before they started making heir own at Lithgow in 1912/13, you've got a good bit of history there. As the volley sights and cut off are absent its likely that it received the update in 1916 ish to remove them in keeping with new policy that these items were no longer being used in service and not on rifles made after that date. you may find more info sources at enfield resource.com.

Aaron1100us
07-28-2013, 10:27 AM
wow,very interesting. thanks

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Aaron1100us
07-28-2013, 04:33 PM
Any idea what this might be worth?

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Penguin
07-28-2013, 06:03 PM
Thanks rjwnz that is an interisting bit of information. Kind of cool now you have at least a bit of history on your rifle that is always neat.

mrkalashnikov
07-28-2013, 07:17 PM
I have a 1918 BSA MKIII. It's a sweet shooter.

Aaron1100us
07-30-2013, 06:42 AM
Haven't had a chance to order any books yet. But I've been searching the internet for any other info. Whenever I look into the 2 MD marked SMLE's I get info on the Lithgow made ones. Would be intersting to some how find out what or if any Wars this gun has been through.

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