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filthy phil
04-01-2014, 06:02 PM
Lube stage- the worst.
I know im using way too much.
http://i62.tinypic.com/2eeyer7.jpg
The lube makes em pop in and out of the dies like shit from a ducks ass :)

5 grains of trail boss. Comes right to the bottom of the bullet
http://i58.tinypic.com/2rm121l.jpg

Seated, crimped. Might need to be wiped a little but for the glock prolly not
http://i57.tinypic.com/17e349.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/4vr8k5.jpg
The jacketed are extreme 200 gr
The lead are some pulls.

alismith
04-01-2014, 08:38 PM
Well, you got 'em loaded. How do they shoot?

filthy phil
04-01-2014, 08:52 PM
Well, you got 'em loaded. How do they shoot?

Find out thurs when I test out some 9 loaded with extreme 147 plated

l921428x
04-01-2014, 09:16 PM
wear body armor?

FunkyPertwee
04-01-2014, 09:20 PM
Nice flag.

BISHOP
04-01-2014, 10:04 PM
How are these primed? Did you use your press or did you have to Hydro pop the primers?


BISHOP

Durangokid
04-01-2014, 10:46 PM
How did you prime the cases? Were they Boxer primed? All of the steel cases I see are Berdan primed?

filthy phil
04-02-2014, 02:07 AM
How are these primed? Did you use your press or did you have to Hydro pop the primers?


BISHOP

The boxer primed steel has one flash hole, just like regular brass. Berdan primed has 2 flash holes.
With the lee dies, if a berdan slips through, theres a safety that releases the decapping pin and prevents it from breaking.

filthy phil
04-02-2014, 02:08 AM
How did you prime the cases? Were they Boxer primed? All of the steel cases I see are Berdan primed?

With the newer 45 tula, most I found were boxers

l921428x
04-02-2014, 06:41 AM
Nice flag.
what flag?

l921428x
04-02-2014, 06:43 AM
Mag looks a little long in that Glock. Hmmm?

Dan Morris
04-02-2014, 08:21 AM
Ain't the steel kinda hard on the dies?????????????
Dan

Helen Keller
04-02-2014, 09:08 AM
Ain't the steel kinda hard on the dies?????????????
Dan


Most steel case I've loaded , .45 and .223 I find they size/trim much easier than most brass. Only thing I've found is the wolf tends to have slightly thicker case walls around the shoulder.



I think I have some .45 that's been loaded 4 times now with Zero issues, and Im about 2 times on some of the .223.

Pat Garrett
04-02-2014, 11:04 AM
Almost 50 years ago, I was given a case of U.S. military .45 with steel cases. Being a broke student at the time, I had no choice but to reloads them. It was a pain in the ass, no question, but they worked very well, and I reloaded those cases twice. I slao used steel dies, since I couldn't afford a carbide sizer at that time.

Where there's a will, there's a way. Sometimes ya just gotta "adapt, improvise and overcome.":shss:

filthy phil
04-02-2014, 12:06 PM
Mag looks a little long in that Glock. Hmmm?

30s with a 21 mag

filthy phil
04-02-2014, 12:07 PM
Ain't the steel kinda hard on the dies?????????????
Dan

Carbide dies.
But aint gonna make it a regular habit

filthy phil
04-02-2014, 12:08 PM
what flag?

Stars n bars ;)
http://i40.tinypic.com/21e3fw4.jpg

filthy phil
04-02-2014, 01:31 PM
45s are 200gr rn over 7 grains of longshot
9 is 147gr over 6 grains #7 (testing tomorrow)
have 500 124gr 9mm arriving in a few days

http://i61.tinypic.com/29opy8o.jpg

Schuetzenman
04-03-2014, 05:46 AM
http://i58.tinypic.com/2rm121l.jpg
Never seen powder like that before. Looks like Lifesavers.

filthy phil
04-03-2014, 06:04 AM
Its engineered to be fluffy and fill the case to prevent double charges. Low pressure too, but not safe to be compressed

Helen Keller
04-03-2014, 10:36 AM
yep, you can do all sorts of things with trail boss.

filthy phil
04-03-2014, 08:02 PM
yep, you can do all sorts of things with trail boss.

It dosent work with the 200gr plated worth a shit. I have over 100 pulls to do :(

the plated does work fine with 7.5 longshot

Also my 9mm load worked great- 6gr aa#7 under the extreme 147 plated rn.
So 2 out or 3 aint bad lol
Gonna make up a few hundred of that.
The 124 plated rn will get here soon :)

NAPOTS
04-03-2014, 09:05 PM
It dosent work with the 200gr plated worth a shit. I have over 100 pulls to do :(

the plated does work fine with 7.5 longshot

Also my 9mm load worked great- 6gr aa#7 under the extreme 147 plated rn.
So 2 out or 3 aint bad lol
Gonna make up a few hundred of that.
The 124 plated rn will get here soon :)

Whats going on with the 200 gr plated? Does it not cycle well or is it inaccurate.

Schuetzenman
04-03-2014, 09:17 PM
Whats going on with the 200 gr plated? Does it not cycle well or is it inaccurate.

Exactly what I'd like to find out as well.

filthy phil
04-03-2014, 09:31 PM
Exactly what I'd like to find out as well.

The slide wouldnt come back enough. Kept getting jams.
The shits for lead. With speer lswc it worked great. And theres no more room for more powder.

abpt1
04-04-2014, 09:06 AM
The slide wouldnt come back enough. Kept getting jams.
The shits for lead. With speer lswc it worked great. And theres no more room for more powder.

Never load more untested rounds then your willing to pull...Ive had to pull a few my self ...no fun get one of them kinetic hammer deals and a block off wood.

Durangokid
04-04-2014, 09:27 AM
Trail Boss is of course a Black Powder loading band aid. It is not intended for high performance semi-auto handguns. If you are loading for your S&W #3 .44 Russian it is fine. It has a very low pressure spike and can not be depended on to cycle a slide.
Try Long shot or some other powder intended for modern auto-pistols. The bullets are not the problem.

filthy phil
04-04-2014, 05:15 PM
Never load more untested rounds then your willing to pull...Ive had to pull a few my self ...no fun get one of them kinetic hammer deals and a block off wood.
Yep. Got a little workout today
http://i61.tinypic.com/2q8vcp5.jpg


Trail Boss is of course a Black Powder loading band aid. It is not intended for high performance semi-auto handguns. If you are loading for your S&W #3 .44 Russian it is fine. It has a very low pressure spike and can not be depended on to cycle a slide.
Try Long shot or some other powder intended for modern auto-pistols. The bullets are not the problem.

Tb works great with lead. (But the speer lead I picked up left streaks in my glock. Looks like my 1911 will be seeing a lotta use.)
Since it came in 5# I figured id try something to burn it up.
And matter of fact I reloaded those pulls with 7.5 longshot

Durangokid
04-04-2014, 10:36 PM
I like Winchester 231 it will do about anything you need in a .45.

Helen Keller
04-05-2014, 12:38 AM
I use TB in my 300blk bolt action loads and for .303 plinking rounds.

abpt1
04-05-2014, 07:26 AM
I like Winchester 231 it will do about anything you need in a .45.

hp38 and w231 are identical.

Same burn rate, same data for loads.

filthy phil
04-05-2014, 02:49 PM
I like Winchester 231 it will do about anything you need in a .45.

Ill be glad to pick some up as soon as I see it, but I aint gonna pay over $60 online with hazmat fees

Someone on the 1911 forum warned I might experience bullet setback on my loads.
I tested and im good. Same oal after chambering

NAPOTS
04-05-2014, 04:14 PM
Ill be glad to pick some up as soon as I see it, but I aint gonna pay over $60 online with hazmat fees

Someone on the 1911 forum warned I might experience bullet setback on my loads.
I tested and im good. Same oal after chambering

did they say why?

filthy phil
04-05-2014, 04:50 PM
did they say why?

I pulled the rounds with trailboss and ran the cases thru the expander die, the steel cases were pretty wallowed out. I could seat the bullets up to the crimp by hand. The brass wasnt like that.
Still havent reloaded the steel from the pulls but when I do I will test for setback
I have a pretty good crimp on them. Likely preventing setback
http://i60.tinypic.com/2h38lcm.jpg

Durangokid
04-06-2014, 12:33 AM
Set back is always a danger in reloading steel cases. The steel may lack the elasticity needed to provide constant friction on the projectile. I have not loaded them. I have seen articles which recommend using an adhesive to reduce the chance of set back. If I were to experiment loading a straight wall case, I would use a cannelure tool.

filthy phil
04-12-2014, 09:04 AM
Scored some unique. Stuff meters poorly without some vibration
http://i61.tinypic.com/2latycl.jpg
Its consistent now
http://i60.tinypic.com/1e2wx3.jpg

Durangokid
04-12-2014, 09:10 AM
The quality of the powder measure must also be accessed when powder metering is questioned.

filthy phil
04-12-2014, 08:53 PM
Ive seen others report metering variances with the better equipment, not just the lowly lee

Durangokid
04-13-2014, 10:24 PM
Different powder will meter differently some times from one measure to another. I use a LEE for some less critical loading. For my 1,000 meter loads I use the RCBS one pound measure. It is a very consistent measure.