Dead bankers don't lie.

[5.56NATO]

Wtf is (still) going on here?


Former top Dutch banker found dead with wife, daughter
A Dutch former top banker who came under fire for taking a large pay-off after the nationalization of his troubled bank was found dead along with his wife and daughter on Saturday in what police called a family tragedy.
Jan Peter Schmittmann, 57, ran the domestic operations of Dutch bank ABN Amro between 2003 and 2007 and was widely criticized for landing an 8 million euro ($10.95 million) pay-off after the bank's collapse and subsequent nationalization.
Police said they visited his house in the wealthy commuter town of Laren early on Saturday after being alerted by a family friend. There they found his body along with those of his 57-year-old wife and 22-year-old younger daughter.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101557865



Jeffrey Corzine, youngest son of former New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine, dead at 31
The youngest son of former New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine - described as a "lost" soul who battled addiction - was found dead in a Mexico City hotel through a search initiated by his family, a well-placed source told the Daily News.
Jeffrey Corzine, 31, whose body was found in Mexico's largest metropolis "several days ago," had failed to respond to messages from his loved ones, the source said. The family launched a search that tracked him down by following his credit card usage, the source added.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/jeffrey-corzine-youngest-son-new-jersey-gov-jon-corzine-died-article-1.1720797

Exposing what lies beneath the bodies of dead bankers and what lies ahead for us
I feel that this is one of the most important investigations I’ve ever done. If my findings are correct, each of us might soon experience a severe, if not crippling blow to our personal finances, the confiscation of any wealth some of us have been able to accumulate over our lifetimes, and the end of the financial world as we once knew it. The evidence to support my findings exists in the trail of dead bodies of financial executives across the globe and a missing Wall Street Journal Reporter who was working at the Dow Jones news room at the time of his disappearance.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/61200




Also there's this interesting suicide;
A senior CIA official has died in an apparent suicide this week from injuries sustained after jumping off a building in northern Virginia, according to sources close to the CIA.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/cia-official-dies-in-apparent-suicide/

[Richard Simmons]

People die every day. I don't see the connection/conspiracy here? The first guy left the bank seven years ago. As far as Corzine's son well, like I said, everyone dies. A CIA agent commits suicide? Gee, with what, something like 1,000 suicides a week in this country you gotta figure every government agency is gotta have one sooner or later.

[5.56NATO]

Yes, I'm sure it's all coincidence.

[Richard Simmons]

Yes, I'm sure it's all coincidence.

That people die? No, that's simply a fact but you can look for what ever you want to make your ducks line up the way you need them too. I mean sooner or later you're gonna be able to tell us all, "See I told you so". In the meantime it never hurts to keep fishin.

[studmuffin]

The coincidences are starting to add up. Especially those suicides where the dead person shoots themselves in the head several times.

[stevelyn]

While I don't have a problem with the average banker getting whacked, but I am curious as to why.

[Richard Simmons]

Suicide

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304819004579487590931617328?mg=ren o64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB1000 1424052702304819004579487590931617328.html


Remember all the reports of bankers and stockbrokers jumping out of windows back in the 1930's when the market crashed? Shit happens to everyone, rich included.

[El Jefe]

Yes, I'm sure it's all coincidence.

So what is the common thread with these cases?

[El Jefe]

Suicide

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304819004579487590931617328?mg=ren o64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB1000 1424052702304819004579487590931617328.html


Remember all the reports of bankers and stockbrokers jumping out of windows back in the 1930's when the market crashed? Shit happens to everyone, rich included.

http://s8.postimg.org/kbswulyf9/jump.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

[5.56NATO]

So what is the common thread with these cases?

High level banking, followed by unnatural death?

Also that sign is kinda funny.

[El Jefe]

High level banking, followed by unnatural death?

Also that sign is kinda funny.

Yes, the sign is hilarious!

[5.56NATO]

Suicide

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304819004579487590931617328?mg=ren o64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB1000 1424052702304819004579487590931617328.html


Remember all the reports of bankers and stockbrokers jumping out of windows back in the 1930's when the market crashed? Shit happens to everyone, rich included.

And thus my point. Maybe they knew something is coming and didn't want to go along with it so were Ron Browned/Vince Fostered or they didn't want to live through what is coming so they offed themselves. But who knows, mebbe pure coincidence.

[Richard Simmons]

And thus my point. Maybe they knew something is coming and didn't want to go along with it so were Ron Browned/Vince Fostered or they didn't want to live through what is coming so they offed themselves. But who knows, mebbe pure coincidence.

Then why leave the older daughter alive? She was coming over to say goodbye before leaving the country. Might it just be a case like those that happen every day where the father went off his nut and killed his family? Every coin has two sides just like every story. I tend to consider both and go with the one that seems the most plausible. YMMV

[Pat Garrett]

And maybe Chicken Little was right!:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

[was_peacemaker]

Then why leave the older daughter alive? She was coming over to say goodbye before leaving the country. Might it just be a case like those that happen every day where the father went off his nut and killed his family? Every coin has two sides just like every story. I tend to consider both and go with the one that seems the most plausible. YMMV

The sad truth is...that is what it sounds like. Poor daughter, she is going to be scared for life. I hate it when people opt for suicide...two in my own family have done that.

[WOD]

and then there's this from yesterday….

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-07/ceo-liechtenstein-bank-frick-murdered

[Richard Simmons]

and then there's this from yesterday….

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-07/ceo-liechtenstein-bank-frick-murdered

Folks here in the U.S. frequently kill folks they've had years of bad dealings with. I thought it was funny that the suspect fled in a smart car.

[WOD]

I thought it was funnier that he was killed in "broad daylight" in a 'parking garage'...

[Durangokid]

I must be missing something here? How does a Dutch banker demise linked to a Senators sibling death in Mexico? A CIA operative commits suicide? This is supposed to be episodic? I need an aspirin. :wondering:

[Pat Garrett]

I must be missing something here? How does a Dutch banker demise linked to a Senators sibling death in Mexico? A CIA operative commits suicide? This is supposed to be episodic? I need an aspirin. :wondering:

No. Not an aspirin. TWO arthritis strength Motrin.:argh:

[Krupski]

No. Not an aspirin. TWO arthritis strength Motrin.:argh:

After reading the shit you post, I need morphine to kill the pain.

[Pat Garrett]

Get a little education, and lose the paranoia and you'll enjoy what I post!:read:

[5.56NATO]

Yeah Krupp, with Pat being one of the nwo tools here I feel it's safe to disregard anything he has to say.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXw-pC9cOkw&feature=player_embedded

[5.56NATO]

Get a little education, and lose the paranoia and you'll enjoy what I post!:read:

To me you're one of the most ignorant personas to post here.

[Durangokid]

In England of 1641 they had the "Star" Chamber. This group operated in secret to indict prominent people that they disagreed with. :think:

[El Jefe]

Everything is an evil conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of you need to be committed.

[Pat Garrett]

Everything is an evil conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of you need to be committed.

:laughingtohard: :laughingtohard: :laughingtohard:

[Pat Garrett]

To me you're one of the most ignorant personas to post here.

Folks like you, that can't think for themselves, and need Alex and his lackey, Celente to lead them, just assume everyone who does not fall down and worship old Alex is wrong!:prayer::prayer:

[5.56NATO]

I'm sorry but I seriously doubt it's Alex Jones fault that you're a bootlicking tool. And you still haven't shown me where Jones has been wrong on anything.

[Pat Garrett]

You??? Calling some one else a tool????

Now that's funny!:yeah: :yeah::yeah:

No one should have to "show you" he's wrong. If you can't figure that out for yourself, there's little hope for you.

Anyone with any common sense can listen to his inane drivel and laugh out load. Only a delusional paranoid would actually believe anything that idiot spouts off.

[Richard Simmons]

I'm sorry but I seriously doubt it's Alex Jones fault that you're a bootlicking tool. And you still haven't shown me where Jones has been wrong on anything.

On May 24, 2010 Alex Jones predicted that Iran would be attacked within a year resulting in the start of World War III. AFAIK it's April 9th, 2014 and Iran still hasn't been attacked and WWIII hasn't started.

On his radio show in May 2011 Jones stated that the killing of Osama Bin laden was a wholly Western effort to trigger WWIII (the U.S. will invade Pakistan and China will defend Pakistan, or Israel will start WWIII with false-flag attacks). Didn't/hasn't happened.

[Krupski]

On May 24, 2010 Alex Jones predicted that Iran would be attacked within a year resulting in the start of World War III. AFAIK it's April 9th, 2014 and Iran still hasn't been attacked and WWIII hasn't started.

On his radio show in May 2011 Jones stated that the killing of Osama Bin laden was a wholly Western effort to trigger WWIII (the U.S. will invade Pakistan and China will defend Pakistan, or Israel will start WWIII with false-flag attacks). Didn't/hasn't happened.

Even Nostradamus' predictions are not 100% accurate.

[Richard Simmons]

Even Nostradamus' predictions are not 100% accurate.

All he said was "show me where Alex Jones has been wrong on anything". Seems like he feels he IS % accurate. As far as Nostradamus goes aren't most of his "predictions" written in code that has to be interpreted as to their supposed meaning? Vague as well as cryptic.

[Pat Garrett]

All he said was "show me where Alex Jones has been wrong on anything". Seems like he feels he IS % accurate. As far as Nostradamus goes aren't most of his "predictions" written in code that has to be interpreted as to their supposed meaning? Vague as well as cryptic.

Nostradamus and Alex.
By golly there's a pair to draw to!:laughingtohard::wow::wow:

[El Jefe]

Even Nostradamus' predictions are not 100% accurate.

Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense. :wow:

[El Jefe]

All he said was "show me where Alex Jones has been wrong on anything". Seems like he feels he IS % accurate. As far as Nostradamus goes aren't most of his "predictions" written in code that has to be interpreted as to their supposed meaning? Vague as well as cryptic.

Nostradamus' "prophecies" were vague, mumbled bullshit. I'd put more faith in a fortune cookie.

[Oswald Bastable]

Regardless of Alex Jones, his veracity or lack thereof...there is another time in history when a significant number of bankers and brokers "committed suicide", and under George Santayana's dictum, this time in history should at least be of interest.

[Durangokid]

The profession with the highest rate of suicide are dentist. Elderly males Dentist have the most deaths by suicide than any other occupation. Bankers have a very low suicide rate. It makes me question what is the link between these Dentist and the new world order?
The rumors about transmitters being placed in peoples mouth by the U.N. must be true. These damn Dentist are all "One World" co-conspirators. :spin-icon:

[Oswald Bastable]

The profession with the highest rate of suicide are dentist. Elderly males Dentist have the most deaths by suicide than any other occupation. Bankers have a very low suicide rate. It makes me question what is the link between these Dentist and the new world order?
The rumors about transmitters being placed in peoples mouth by the U.N. must be true. These damn Dentist are all "One World" co-conspirators. :spin-icon:

Apples and oranges. Dentist suicide rates are a steady state affair.

However there was another point in history when banker/stockbroker suicides rose briskly from the norm. Can you identify that point? I'll give you a hint as you seem befuddled...the year was 1929.

[El Jefe]

Apples and oranges. Dentist suicide rates are a steady state affair.

However there was another point in history when banker/stockbroker suicides rose briskly from the norm. Can you identify that point? I'll give you a hint as you seem befuddled...the year was 1929.

....and there are those that think 2014 could be a bit bumpy. Probably more like 87 than 29, but one never knows.

[Durangokid]

Where did you get the stats on Bankers committing suicide? The rate of Bankers dying by their own hands remained surprisingly low during 1929. The rate of suicide among the general population was up. Winston Churchill started this rumor during a visit to New York in 1929. Dentist or Bankers they are all a class of identifiable occupations.

[Oswald Bastable]

Where did you get the stats on Bankers committing suicide? The rate of Bankers dying by their own hands remained surprisingly low during 1929. The rate of suicide among the general population was up. Winston Churchill started this rumor during a visit to New York in 1929. Dentist or Bankers they are all a class of identifiable occupations.

Given you would disparage the word of Sir Winston:

"Winston Churchill, visiting New York, was awakened the day after Black Tuesday by the noise of a crowd outside the Savoy-Plaza Hotel. 'Under my very window a gentleman cast himself down fifteen storeys and was dashed to pieces, causing a wild commotion and the arrival of the fire brigade,' he wrote."

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2412/after-the-1929-stock-market-crash-did-investors-really-jump-out-of-windows

Suggests your veracity to be much in question.

[Durangokid]

Read your link. It says the number suicides in 1929 was surprising low. The Urban Legends of the streets littered with dead bankers has been highly over rated. :funny-post:

[Oswald Bastable]

Read your link. It says the number suicides in 1929 was surprising low. The Urban Legends of the streets littered with dead bankers has been highly over rated. :funny-post:

I did...and there are several listings that do fit...but of course there's nothing to see here in recent days, so we should just move along...and Santayana was also wrong in his specification of ignoring the past...

Also, based on all your responses to this thread, I can infer you believe our financial system to be inordinately healthy, with no chance of collapse, either in the short or mid-term...would that be a correct assumption?

[Pat Garrett]

I did...and there are several listings that do fit...but of course there's nothing to see here in recent days, so we should just move along...and Santayana was also wrong in his specification of ignoring the past...

Also, based on all your responses to this thread, I can infer you believe our financial system to be inordinately healthy, with no chance of collapse, either in the short or mid-term...would that be a correct assumption?

Sorry to disappoint you and the other Chicken Littles, but we're not going to collapse. No matter what the doomsday prophets and whining sob-sisters cry and whine about.

[5.56NATO]

Sorry to disappoint you and the other Chicken Littles, but we're not going to collapse. No matter what the doomsday prophets and whining sob-sisters cry and whine about.

Yeah and anyone who thinks there are preparations being made for martial law is a loon.
http://www.northcom.mil/
http://www.progressive.org/rothschild0209.html
http://www.infowars.com/northcom-ready-to-implement-martial-law/

[Richard Simmons]

Yeah and anyone who thinks there are preparations being made for martial law is a loon.
http://www.northcom.mil/
http://www.progressive.org/rothschild0209.html
http://www.infowars.com/northcom-ready-to-implement-martial-law/


The first link you posted has a bunch of stories/articles on it. Was there a particular link I need to click on once I go there?

[5.56NATO]

The first link you posted has a bunch of stories/articles on it. Was there a particular link I need to click on once I go there?

No. The first link is to the literal home page of the predepoyed folks a regime could call upon to "quell" any "disturbance". They are overtly excused away as being needed for the euphemisms of humanitarian and disaster work in case of national emergency. However, they represent a true full on standing army in our midst. Anyway, also please see;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Garden_Plot
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Operation_Cable_Splicer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

Some words from the founders on standing armies;


"Altho' a large standing Army in time of Peace hath ever been considered dangerous to the liberties of a Country, yet a few Troops, under certain circumstances, are not only safe, but indispensably necessary. Fortunately for us our relative situation requires but few. The same circumstances which so effectually retarded, and in the end conspired to defeat the attempts of Britain to subdue us, will now powerfully tend to render us secure. Our distance from the European States in a great degree frees us of apprehension, from their numerous regular forces and the Insults and dangers which are to be dreaded from their Ambition.

But, if our danger from those powers was more imminent, yet we are too poor to maintain a standing Army adequate to our defence, and was our Country more populous and rich, still it could not be done without great oppression of the people. Besides, as soon as we are able to raise funds more than adequate to the discharge of the Debts incurred by the Revolution, it may become a Question worthy of consideration, whether the surplus should not be applied in preparations for building and equipping a Navy, without which, in case of War we could neither protect our Commerce, nor yield that Assistance to each other, which, on such an extent of Sea-Coast, our mutual Safety would require."
Geo. Washington
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_12s6.html




"In time of actual war, great discretionary powers are constantly given to the Executive Magistrate. Constant apprehension of War, has the same tendency to render the head too large for the body. A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.

Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied: and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals, engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."
James Madison
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/11/the-founding-fathers-warned-against-standing-armies.html



Prophets were they not?