OKC about to be blown open?

[1 Patriot-of-many]

http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/trial-seeks-fbi-tape-showing-mcveigh-accomplice/


Interesting, why would a judge seal videos and other evidence from the public in the first place? When A gov't isn't open, it's corrupt and has something to hide.

[chiak47]

Hitler blamed someone for a fire and it made war justifiable.
After the war was done it was made clear just who did what and for why.

[Schuetzenman]

Nothing about that ever added up.

[5.56NATO]

http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/trial-seeks-fbi-tape-showing-mcveigh-accomplice/


Interesting, why would a judge seal videos and other evidence from the public in the first place? When A gov't isn't open, it's corrupt and has something to hide.

Kinda like how newtown "evidence" was classified by the fbi.

[Krupski]

http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/trial-seeks-fbi-tape-showing-mcveigh-accomplice/


Interesting, why would a judge seal videos and other evidence from the public in the first place? When A gov't isn't open, it's corrupt and has something to hide.

All the rubble (evidence) was quickly disposed of by the feds. But not before someone snuck a sample, tested it and found the chemical signature of PETN (an explosive).

Given that:

* McVeigh was quickly executed (slienced)
* An ANFO / ANNM (mostly ANFO) bomb isn't all that powerful (i.e. it's slow - it pushes things apart rather than shattering them)
* Only the Murrah building sustained heavy damage while surrounding buildings barely had blown out windows
* Traces of PETN were discovered in the rubble (could NOT have come from an ANFO/ANNM bomb)
* All the BATFE agents were conveniently, safely absent that day

... all leads me to believe that the feds knew of McVeigh's plans, then BATFE planted PETN charges in strategic locations of the building and waited for McVeigh's little truck bomb to initiate the real explosive (the PETN) and then blamed it all on "racist right wing radical white supremacists".

[Krupski]

Kinda like how newtown "evidence" was classified by the fbi.

So was all the 9/11 video (except for the three frame surveillance video that shows nothing).

[5.56NATO]

Mcvey was allegedly offed. I can't see them just throwing away a usefull tool like that.

[stevelyn]

All the rubble (evidence) was quickly disposed of by the feds. But not before someone snuck a sample, tested it and found the chemical signature of PETN (an explosive).

Given that:

* McVeigh was quickly executed (slienced)
* An ANFO / ANNM (mostly ANFO) bomb isn't all that powerful (i.e. it's slow - it pushes things apart rather than shattering them)
* Only the Murrah building sustained heavy damage while surrounding buildings barely had blown out windows
* Traces of PETN were discovered in the rubble (could NOT have come from an ANFO/ANNM bomb)
* All the BATFE agents were conveniently, safely absent that day

... all leads me to believe that the feds knew of McVeigh's plans, then BATFE planted PETN charges in strategic locations of the building and waited for McVeigh's little truck bomb to initiate the real explosive (the PETN) and then blamed it all on "racist right wing radical white supremacists".


James Pate did a series of articles for Soldier of Fortune magazine in the months following OKC. He proved that McVeigh's fertilizer truck could not have possibly done all the damage the ferals claimed to the Murrah Bldg because of the lack of damage to the surrounding area where the truck was parked.

[stevelyn]

Mcvey was allegedly offed. I can't see them just throwing away a usefull tool like that.


Of course they would.

McVeigh did what he did for his own reasons and probably didn't realize he was possibly being used by the ferals.

They had to off him, otherwise he might catch on that he was being used as a tool by govt agents and spill the beans.

[l921428x]

James Pate did a series of articles for Soldier of Fortune magazine in the months following OKC. He proved that McVeigh's fertilizer truck could not have possibly done all the damage the ferals claimed to the Murrah Bldg because of the lack of damage to the surrounding area where the truck was parked.

get it here. SOF Vol 7 No.7/8/9 2002. now add this to your thoughts

[5.56NATO]

Hitler blamed someone for a fire and it made war justifiable.
After the war was done it was made clear just who did what and for why.

The Reichstag fire was blamed on the communists, excusing Hitler to wipe them out.
The The Gleiwitz incident was used as the fabricated excuse to start the war in Poland.
War with Poland entailed a military treaty between Poland, France, and England.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

[Krupski]

The Reichstag fire was blamed on the communists, excusing Hitler to wipe them out.
The The Gleiwitz incident was used as the fabricated excuse to start the war in Poland.
War with Poland entailed a military treaty between Poland, France, and England.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

Sad thing is, "false flag operations" are well known and widely used by all governments to sway public opinion.

Yet, when a false flag operation is carried out in the USA, the sheeple don't believe it.

They seem to think OUR government is too nice, too good, too benevolent to EVER stoop so low as to stage incidents to achieve a desired political effect.

Sure, the NAZIS may do it, but certainly not AMERICANS....

[5.56NATO]

Sad thing is, "false flag operations" are well known and widely used by all governments to sway public opinion.

Yet, when a false flag operation is carried out in the USA, the sheeple don't believe it.

They seem to think OUR government is too nice, too good, too benevolent to EVER stoop so low as to stage incidents to achieve a desired political effect.

Sure, the NAZIS may do it, but certainly not AMERICANS....




Yeah, the feral gubmit would never say that US warships were attacked by North Vietnamese torpedy boats, the fbi wouldn't supply all training, materials, and logistics to the wtc bombers and allow the bomb to go off, infiltrate Elohim City and conspire to bomb a federal building in OKC, allow 19 idiots to fly jet airliners into huge skyscrapers in NYC, fabricate a mass shooting in theatre or a grade school, or allow a mass influx of border crossings, bringing in diseases and all else, wich pandemic would provide plausible deniability for martial law, quarantines, and no further elections, meaning the 0bamaregim can stay in power indefinitely and also has absolute power.

[LAGC]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

Whoa... I'm quite familiar with the Reichstag firebombing, but never heard about that other "false flag" operation.

Those Nazis were some cold, calculating motherfuckers. Knew exactly what buttons to push to whip up the sheeple into a warmongering frenzy.

I mean, just look at the aftermath of 9/11 -- Dubya had a 90% approval rating for several weeks before people started wising up to his plans.

While I don't think the Feds manufactured the 9/11 attacks (except for maybe Building 7), I have little doubt they knew about them ahead of time and let them happen, so as to be able to get the public riled up and ready for war.

Tell the people they are being attacked, and to grant the government "emergency powers" (read: PATRIOT Act) in order to stop it, and off to the races we go. Works every time.

[sevlex]

Curious to see if this leads anywhere.

:munch:

[l921428x]

Sad thing is, "false flag operations" are well known and widely used by all governments to sway public opinion.

Yet, when a false flag operation is carried out in the USA, the sheeple don't believe it.

They seem to think OUR government is too nice, too good, too benevolent to EVER stoop so low as to stage incidents to achieve a desired political effect.

Sure, the NAZIS may do it, but certainly not AMERICANS....



Gulf of Tonkin come to mind?

[rci2950]

be nice if the web started to unweave

[weevil]

Sad thing is, "false flag operations" are well known and widely used by all governments to sway public opinion.

Yet, when a false flag operation is carried out in the USA, the sheeple don't believe it.

They seem to think OUR government is too nice, too good, too benevolent to EVER stoop so low as to stage incidents to achieve a desired political effect.

Sure, the NAZIS may do it, but certainly not AMERICANS....




The Liberty?