My 7.62x54r Collection, continued

[ATAK, Inc.]

Here is the "All Other Country" pic. Just did a re-count and the total for the collection is 74 rounds.

http://www.gunsnet.net/photopost/data/500/medium/IMG_0123.JPG

All other countries:
Top Row:
US
1. Black Hills US Govt. Contract 174gr HPBT Match
2. SLAP Round (reload)

Albania
3. LPS 149gr, 1990
4. RAUFUS (reload)
5. AP (reload)
6. Tracer (reload)

Bulgaria
7. Type “L”, 147gr Lead Core, 1953
8. Type “D”, 172gr Lead Core, 1955
9. LPS, 1964
10. Short Range Target, 122gr, 1968
11. RAUFUS, (reload)

China
12. Incendiary Spotting Round, 1959
13. API, 1955
14. Tracer, 1972
15. Type “L”, Lead Core 147gr, 1956
16. Grenade Blank, 1955


Middle row:
Czechoslovakia
17. Type “D” 172gr. Lead Core, 1954
18. LPS, 1965
19. T-46 Tracer, 1955
20. Plastic Core Training Round, 1964
21. Blank, 1964
22. RAUFUS (reload)
23. Incendiary, (reload)
24. Tracer (reload)

England
25. Kynoch Type “L”, 147gr. Lead Core, 1924

Finland
26. Type “S”, 147gr. Lead Core, 1933
27. D-166, 182gr. Lead Core, 1944
28. Proof Round, 1968
29. White Tipped Tracer, 1942
30. USSR Import Tracer, 1962
31. Chrome Dummy Round, 1938
32. Chrome Dummy Round, 1963
33. Lapua 180gr. SP
34. Norma 150gr. SP
35. SAKO 180gr. SP


Bottom Row:
E. Germany
36. DDR Dummy, No Date
37. LPS Import, 1959
38. Short Range Target Round, 122gr, 1986

Hungary
39. Type “D” 172gr. Lead Core, 1951
40. PS, 182gr. Steel Core, 1972
41. LPS Silver Tip, 1981
42. LPS No Tip Color, 1984
43. T-46M Tracer, 1986
44. Short Range Target Round, 122gr, 1989

Poland
45. LPS, 1974

UAE, Egypt, etc
46. Light Ball
47. Light Ball
48. Tracer
49. Plastic Blank
50. Tracer (reload)

Yugoslavia
51. 182gr. Lead Core, 1985

[Solidus-snake]

Thats pretty cool there

[Richard Simmons]

Very nice! Wonder what firearm that Black Hills load was intended for? I've read that the SpecOps community uses foreign weapons on occasion but using custom, American made ammo would kind of throw up a flag it they were trying to run covert missions.

[Bluntforce]

Very nice! Wonder what firearm that Black Hills load was intended for? I've read that the SpecOps community uses foreign weapons on occasion but using custom, American made ammo would kind of throw up a flag it they were trying to run covert missions.

Remember the unmarked 9mm in the Karl Gustavs in Vietnam? Hmmm, buncha white guys raid your water buffalo depot/weapon stash in BFV circa. '68-'72 and a little thing like unmarked cases is really going to make you wonder who shot Latifah Koo the wonder buff and blew up your punji stick collection?

[Partisan1983]

I had no idea that 54R was done in so many different types/variants of loads !


They made RAUFUS rounds, but no APIT rounds ?

[Richard Simmons]

Remember the unmarked 9mm in the Karl Gustavs in Vietnam? Hmmm, buncha white guys raid your water buffalo depot/weapon stash in BFV circa. '68-'72 and a little thing like unmarked cases is really going to make you wonder who shot Latifah Koo the wonder buff and blew up your punji stick collection?

That type of incident is why I mentioned Spec Op use but is the Black Hills ammo "unmarked"? In this day and age no milsurp 7.62x54r is going to come back to any particular country or participant, (it's too widely available) so why bother? I was thinking that perhaps we were arming Iraqi personnel with some Dragonov or Draganov varient and wanted higher quality ammo than the 7N1 or 7N14 Soviet rounds for that model weapon however, both of those loads use a 151-152gr bullet not the 174gr that the Black Hills load uses. Since the Soviet loads were designed with the Dragunov as the intended platform what are we using the BH load in?

[Penguin]

Nice collection of rounds.

[ATAK, Inc.]

I had no idea that 54R was done in so many different types/variants of loads !


They made RAUFUS rounds, but no APIT rounds ?


Yeah, I'm Slowing down real hard, it's tough finding some of these. The RAUFUS are reloads, I should group them with the US rounds. The soviets were the only ones who made a APIT round, and they stopped production after WWII (they were made for the ShKas Machine gun).

[ATAK, Inc.]

Very nice! Wonder what firearm that Black Hills load was intended for? I've read that the SpecOps community uses foreign weapons on occasion but using custom, American made ammo would kind of throw up a flag it they were trying to run covert missions.


The headstamp shows 7.62x54r and opposite is a half circle with a "2" under it. From what I was told when I got three boxes was it was designed for the PSL for Iraq. Can I substansiate that? No. The box was white, but I don't recall any markings. I wish I bought more.

[O.S.O.K.]

What are you missing that you still need? If you tell us, you might get some packages... ;)

[aliceinchains]

Them chrome dummy rounds are pretty darn cool. Interesting design.

[whos2kno]

very nice