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Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 05:24 PM
This is going on in all western communities where the islamic filth have been allowed to immigrate...it's finally reached a head in the UK, but you can bet social services in the US have been ignoring it for the same reasons...

If you can tolerate the long read, and keep yourself from retching throughout...here is the future of all dhimmi daughters...


Many girls are terrified and with reason... a girl had
her tongue nailed to the table when she threatened
to tell.
– former government advisor, Daily Mail, 2008

http://lawandfreedomfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Easy-Meat-Multiculturalism-Islam-and-Child-Sex-Slavery-05-03-2014.pdf



Cue the resident pedophile apologist to tell us how the kids are not truly harmed and it's really the fault of the parents for over-reacting and like, complaining to police and social services about it, that causes them the most harm...

ready
09-07-2014, 05:40 PM
It's part of their culture. Stop being racist.

Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 05:41 PM
It's part of their culture. Stop being racist.

So if I, being of Scandinavian heritage, go all Viking on their asses, and they object, does that make them racist?

ready
09-07-2014, 05:46 PM
Negative, sir. Not applicable.

El Jefe
09-07-2014, 05:55 PM
Someone will be along to explain this away.

And yeah, Oswald, quit being such a hater! ;)

LAGC
09-07-2014, 06:00 PM
I'm sensing a lot of hostility and disrespect towards people of faith in this thread.

If I didn't know better, I'd think there may even be a hate crime or two brewing.

:coffee:

Kadmos
09-07-2014, 06:08 PM
So if I, being of Scandinavian heritage, go all Viking on their asses, and they object, does that make them racist?


I think if you do a "Blood Eagle" on someone you really can't complain about anyone else's behavior ;)


But, just to be clear, in case there was any doubt....nailing people's tongues to a table is not nice...doesn't really matter what religion anyone is, it's simply bad table manners.

Although, if a person is repeatedly putting their tongue on the table, and really won't stop...maybe it's not a completely unfitting punishment. ;)


BTW, wasn't there a recent warning about starting threads and doing this stuff? Perhaps you should consider an edit?

N/A
09-07-2014, 06:30 PM
I think if you do a "Blood Eagle" on someone you really can't complain about anyone else's behavior ;)


But, just to be clear, in case there was any doubt....nailing people's tongues to a table is not nice...doesn't really matter what religion anyone is, it's simply bad table manners.

Although, if a person is repeatedly putting their tongue on the table, and really won't stop...maybe it's not a completely unfitting punishment. ;)


BTW, wasn't there a recent warning about starting threads and doing this stuff? Perhaps you should consider an edit?

You mean, as opposed to just posting something to be an asshole in a thread?

How about this, why don't all the Jews in Israel convert to Islam and live in peace with their Islamic half-brothers? After all, you're all descended from Abraham. Seeing as the Islamic branch of the family has multiplied so much, maybe they are the favored ones of God now. Ya'll could convert and be the intellectual ones of Islam.

Kadmos
09-07-2014, 06:46 PM
You mean, as opposed to just posting something to be an asshole in a thread?

I fail to see how I was an asshole. I thought I was rather polite all things considered.



How about this, why don't all the Jews in Israel convert to Islam and live in peace with their Islamic half-brothers? After all, you're all descended from Abraham. Seeing as the Islamic branch of the family has multiplied so much, maybe they are the favored ones of God now. Ya'll could convert and be the intellectual ones of Islam.

Because we don't want to...convert, that is. They are of course welcome to become Jews, but nobody will press that issue of course.

I'm all for the living in peace idea, but they kinda need to stop shooting rockets first.

BTW, since it's the descendants we are talking about, I think that would make us cousins, not brothers.

Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 06:57 PM
BTW, wasn't there a recent warning about starting threads and doing this stuff? Perhaps you should consider an edit?

Did I call anyone out by name?

And why would the be a complaint from your quarter, given no one was called out by name?

However, your response begs the question...did you even read the pdf? Have any constructive discussion of it to add?

Otherwise you're just trolling...per recent dispensation...

ready
09-07-2014, 06:59 PM
Andddddd....derailed!

Kadmos
09-07-2014, 07:07 PM
Did I call anyone out by name?

And why would the be a complaint from your quarter, given no one was called out by name?

Yeah, it wasn't exactly subtle though.


However, your response begs the question...did you even read the pdf?

Lord no, it was 333 pages! Did you even read it? I'm betting not.


Have any constructive discussion of it to add?

Pretty sure I did, when I mentioned nailing peoples tongues to tables is bad manners.

I think that may have cleared up how the "unnamed person" you may or may not have called out, might actually feel about the issue.


Otherwise you're just trolling...per recent dispensation...

Nope, just tossed in my 2 cents. Nailing tongues to tables is wrong, that's my opinion, no charge.

Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 07:12 PM
Lord no, it was 333 pages!

Well of course not...easier to respond in a flippant way, denying the seriousness of the issue.

Let us never again complain that Jews care for nothing unless it impacts them...


Pretty sure I did, when I mentioned nailing peoples tongues to tables is bad manners.

Nope, just tossed in my 2 cents. Nailing tongues to tables is wrong, that's my opinion, no charge.

Yup, nothing substantive on the issue...just an attempt to derail the story and issue...

One would almost believe you support the actions described in the pdf by your flip dismissal of the subject...

El Jefe
09-07-2014, 07:18 PM
Andddddd....derailed!

Ayup. just like the thread the other day where libs in England turned a blind eye toward this sort of thing.

That one was attacked with vigor.

Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 07:23 PM
Ayup. just like the thread the other day where libs in England turned a blind eye toward this sort of thing.

That one was attacked with vigor.

When you're sympathetic to the cause, nothing stands in the way of derailing the story...

El Jefe
09-07-2014, 07:24 PM
When you're sympathetic to the cause, nothing stands in the way of derailing the story...

Especially when you're allowed to with impunity.

But, apparently some seem to like it, so.......

Kadmos
09-07-2014, 07:41 PM
Well of course not...easier to respond in a flippant way, denying the seriousness of the issue.

As opposed to the flippant way you posted the thread as a means of calling me out?

And now how all you are doing is trying to take jabs at me, rather than say anything about the issue?

Did you seriously expect people to read 333 pages before commenting on this?

You still haven't even claimed to read it yourself (hint: you didn't).


Anyway, back on topic, what more is there really to say about this? Horrible things were done, it's shameful.

Really, what reaction did you expect? Did you think someone would say "it's ok for Muslims to do this"? It's not ok for anyone to do this!

No, pretty much what you wanted was to call me out, and start yet another "muslims are evil" thread. Fine, whatever. It hardly needs to be pointed out that Muslims are far from the only people who hurt others

Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 07:50 PM
From chapter 3:


As late as December 2010, the feminist author Julie Bindel was a lone voice stressing that there was an urgent need to acknowledge these Muslim grooming gangs exist, and that white liberals were still in denial.

"These gangs will be allowed to operate with impunity if we deny their existence in some sort of twisted attempt to be anti-racist and culturally sensitive. Some people, including many white liberals, are loath to admit what it is going on."

The thread is two fold...showing the evil of islam, and of those who aid and abet its tenants and practice...no matter how they do so.

Do I have to claim I've read it for you to believe I did? Will you believe I read it if I claim I did?

Do you even care if I read it, or do you care more you can suggest I didn't just to discredit anything I have to say?

Kadmos
09-07-2014, 08:14 PM
The thread is two fold...showing the evil of islam, and of those who aid and abet its tenants and practice...no matter how they do so.

As of 1981, slavery is against the law in every country on the planet.

Yet some form of it probably still exists on every country on the planet.

This is the evil of humanity, not just Islam.

If you think otherwise then you have deluded yourself.



Do I have to claim I've read it for you to believe I did? Will you believe I read it if I claim I did?

Do you even care if I read it, or do you care more you can suggest I didn't just to discredit anything I have to say?

Honestly, no, I don't care if you read it or not (you didn't). But I think it's ridiculous that you think anyone would feel like they had to read all 333 pages of that (which you didn't even do), before they would post.

I wouldn't even normally expect that you had read it all (which you didn't), before posting it. It's just something that would be posted if someone wanted to really go deep into the topic. It's like recommending a movie to someone, even though maybe you didn't see this movie (or read the book, which you didn't), you could still say "Here is something you may find interesting".

Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 08:21 PM
As of 1981, slavery is against the law in every country on the planet.

Yet some form of it probably still exists on every country on the planet.

This is the evil of humanity, not just Islam.

If you think otherwise then you have deluded yourself.

And this has what to do with an islamic prevalence towards these type of activities...in multiple countries...as explained in the pdf...?


Honestly, no, I don't care if you read it or not (you didn't). But I think it's ridiculous that you think anyone would feel like they had to read all 333 pages of that (which you didn't even do), before they would post.

I wouldn't even normally expect that you had read it all (which you didn't), before posting it. It's just something that would be posted if someone wanted to really go deep into the topic. It's like recommending a movie to someone, even though maybe you didn't see this movie (or read the book, which you didn't), you could still say "Here is something you may find interesting".

You don't know, yet you take great pains to imply I did not read it all...

Is this Ezekiel style prophecy? Or just typical Kadmos knows best, "believe me because I'm far more narcissistic than you", posturing on your part?

Kadmos
09-07-2014, 08:38 PM
And this has what to do with an islamic prevalence towards these type of activities...in multiple countries...as explained in the pdf...?

I'm just speaking to the larger issue.



You don't know, yet you take great pains to imply I did not read it all...

Eh, I think I do know. But the reason I mentioned it was because you called me on it.

But, I, of course, had no problem with coming right out and saying I didn't read it.

You for some reason won't say that you have, or haven't, while still trying to pass it off like you might have (but you didn't)


Is this Ezekiel style prophecy?

Nope, I'm just used to your style of baloney by now.


Or just typical Kadmos knows best, "believe me because I'm far more narcissistic than you", posturing on your part?

It has nothing to do with narcissism.

Just because I'm handsome, smart, dance well, and have a good singing voice, doesn't mean I'm wrong ;)

Face it, you're not a good poker player, your bluff was called, and the best you can drop is a deuce ;)

Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 08:55 PM
I'm just speaking to the larger issue.

Is that the one where you make excuses for pedophiles, or the one where you make excuses for predators...

But I repeat myself...


Eh, I think I do know. But the reason I mentioned it was because you called me on it.

The hubris is amazing...


But, I, of course, had no problem with coming right out and saying I didn't read it.

Yet felt qualified to discourse on the subject...aren't you special.


You for some reason won't say that you have, or haven't, while still trying to pass it off like you might have (but you didn't)

No, I asked if you'd believe me if I claimed I had, to which you replied:


Honestly, no, I don't care if you read it or not...

At that point, why should I try to assuage you one way or another?


Nope, I'm just used to your style of baloney by now.

Hmmm...is there such a thing as kosher baloney?


It has nothing to do with narcissism.

Just because I'm handsome, smart, dance well, and have a good singing voice, doesn't mean I'm wrong ;)

Face it, you're not a good poker player, your bluff was called, and the best you can drop is a deuce ;)

Imagining you can divine the thoughts and actions of others, based on an interwebz post is the height of narcissism...deuce.

Kadmos
09-07-2014, 09:12 PM
Yet felt qualified to discourse on the subject...aren't you special.

It's not rocket surgery, my opinion was "slavery is bad in general".

Really shouldn't come as a shocking revelation to most people.

But yes, I feel qualified to make such a conclusion.




No, I asked if you'd believe me if I claimed I had, to which you replied:


Seriosly, at this point I don't care. If you want to claim you read it, then I will go ahead and say "I believe you".


Hmmm...is there such a thing as kosher baloney?


There is kosher bologna, it's made with beef. Very tasty.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTbk5OeJ91b82uy8Jliv8xvqNO_aLb8u DDoymPMPXgj_D63L_S-IQ



Imagining you can divine the thoughts and actions of others, based on an interwebz post is the height of narcissism...deuce.

Naw, it just takes practice.

Anyway, are we pretty much done here? Is there anything you wanted to discuss about the actual topic perhaps?

Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 09:19 PM
Anyway, are we pretty much done here? Is there anything you wanted to discuss about the actual topic perhaps?

Just the whole proliferation of islamic grooming of young (non-islamic) girls for pedophiliic purposes, and the prevalence of liberal apologists who attempt to cover for them using various means...calling racism, stating it's not all that bad for the victims, etc...

Feel qualified to weigh in on any of that?

Kadmos
09-07-2014, 09:34 PM
Just the whole proliferation of islamic grooming of young (non-islamic) girls for pedophiliic purposes, and the prevalence of liberal apologists who attempt to cover for them using various means...calling racism, stating it's not all that bad for the victims, etc...

Feel qualified to weigh in on any of that?

Sure.

Slavery is bad.

Haven't heard of any apologists though....what page was that on?

El Jefe
09-07-2014, 09:38 PM
Anyway, are we pretty much done here? Is there anything you wanted to discuss about the actual topic perhaps?

Lets see, the topic was, once again, muslims being evil. But that doesn't seem to interest you, so, you change the subject, as usual.

Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 09:47 PM
Sure.

Slavery is bad.

Haven't heard of any apologists though....what page was that on?

You forgot the "m'kay" Mr. Mackey.

Any commentary on how these activities are prevalent in predominantly muslim enclaves across the breadth of western society, anywhere they have been allowed to emigrate en masse, and what it entails for western society as a whole?

Possibly some commentary on when it becomes the norm, rather than hidden by liberal apologists, and what that will mean for society as a whole?

Or maybe even something about when such norms also become the norms of all western governments, and what hope jewish girls may have then...or, jews, period?

You know...something substantive...m'kay?

Or perhaps you'd rather not read any of the linked pdf again, before you respond?

Kadmos
09-07-2014, 10:12 PM
Any commentary on how these activities are prevalent in predominantly muslim enclaves across the breadth of western society, anywhere they have been allowed to emigrate en masse, and what it entails for western society as a whole?

Well, for starters I'm not sure that is an accurate representation. It being an illegal enterprise, it's very difficult to have anything near accuracy when talking about what numbers of what kind of people are involved in it.

A big recent event often makes people think something is more prevalent than it might actually be....sort of like mass shootings for instance. As a "cause of death", they are very rare, but they appear more commonplace because they are notable events.

I seem to recall stories in the not too distant past about Japanese girls being sold into slavery, Russian women sold into slavery, as well as Chinese and Haitian women.

As to what it entails for western society as a whole, I would say not much. Most people will never come into contact with slavery, much less become slaves. Mostly it will be the occasional high profile story, and of course the financial burden of dealing with it, which might be fairly expensive, but not "a percentage of the GDP expensive", if you know what I mean.



Possibly some commentary on when it becomes the norm, rather than hidden by liberal apologists, and what that will mean for society as a whole?

Again, I'm not seeing any apologists. But I think the idea of it "becoming the norm", is overblown hyperbole. You don't see any large push for countries to legalize slavery. Personally I haven't seen any push on that at all.


Or maybe even something about when such norms also become the norms of all western governments, and what hope jewish girls may have then...or, jews, period?

Again, just don't see slavery coming back in any large way.

I would think far more people are simply abducted and murdered, than really turned into slaves.



Or perhaps you'd rather not read any of the linked pdf again, before you respond?

Well, if you want to point me to where it has those liberal apologists, I did say I would take a look...

Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 10:22 PM
And at least we now have the proof that you have "not" read any of it...as the pdf makes all your arguments specious...with footnotes, citations, etc.

Now that we have the resident apologist out of the way...we, the rest of us, can discuss the meat of it.

If this has been going on in the UK for up to 25 years, and approximately as long in Sweden and the Netherlands...how long has it been going on in US muslim enclaves such as Dearborn, Minneapolis, etc, and where are our social services organizations as to pointing the finger...where are our community governments in bringing the issue to the fore? Or are they also cowed by the same fear of being derided as racist as the rest of the left is, aiding and abetting it as some here would?

And at what point does justice serve all, rather than the immigrant...

Kadmos
09-07-2014, 10:30 PM
And at least we now have the proof that you have "not" read any of it...as the pdf makes all your arguments specious...with footnotes, citations, etc.


I thought I made that clear when I stated I didn't read it.

You are welcome of course to point out relevant points if you wish.

Otherwise, go ahead and enjoy the conversation with the multitude of others jumping in on the topic, who I suppose are still pouring over it as we speak, furiously trying to finish it so they feel properly qualified to join the discussion.

Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 10:39 PM
I thought I made that clear when I stated I didn't read it.

You are welcome of course to point out relevant points if you wish.

Otherwise, go ahead and enjoy the conversation with the multitude of others jumping in on the topic, who I suppose are still pouring over it as we speak, furiously trying to finish it so they feel properly qualified to join the discussion.

At least I'm assured they'll read enough of it to understand the gist (by the way, dumbass...the introduction pretty well sums it up, the details being in the chapters, and yes I did read it you sanctimonious schmuck, though not all of the footnotes...)

But of course, having added nothing to the conversation apart from diversion from the topic, and given you'll likely still not peruse even so much as the introduction...I'm sure you have something pithy for all of us who disagree that you find "slavery is bad...m'kay".

However, you did take the bait...hook, line and sinker...proving your support of pedophilia, on whatever scale, by whomever...

You've done your best to derail the thread as I knew you would when I posted it..

Kadmos
09-07-2014, 11:22 PM
Considering the thread was apparently some weird "plot" to out me as some sort of sympathizer, I'd say it didn't even start on the track to begin with, making it a foregone conclusion that it wouldn't be "on the rails".

As to proving something about my supposed "support"....um, I came out against slavery...that's pretty much it. So I don't see you having "proved" much of anything.

Considering pretty much every post you made, right from post #1, was a jab at me, it's pretty obvious what you were doing.

There must be a term for it....it's when fishing and you either drag the line behind a slowly moving boat, or slowly jerking the line as you reel it in....gosh, what was that called again...starts with a "T" if I recall correctly.

Anyway, not important, enjoy the rest of your conversation.

Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 11:29 PM
Considering the thread was apparently some weird "plot" to out me as some sort of sympathizer, I'd say it didn't even start on the track to begin with, making it a foregone conclusion that it wouldn't be "on the rails".

As to proving something about my supposed "support"....um, I came out against slavery...that's pretty much it. So I don't see you having "proved" much of anything.

Considering pretty much every post you made, right from post #1, was a jab at me, it's pretty obvious what you were doing.

There must be a term for it....it's when fishing and you either drag the line behind a slowly moving boat, or slowly jerking the line as you reel it in....gosh, what was that called again...starts with a "T" if I recall correctly.

Anyway, not important, enjoy the rest of your conversation.

Says the fish...

Kadmos
09-07-2014, 11:42 PM
Says the fish...

No harm in the fish for nibbling, as long as it knows what's going on. ;)

Enjoy your evening.

Oswald Bastable
09-07-2014, 11:46 PM
No harm in the fish for nibbling, as long as it knows what's going on. ;)

Enjoy your evening.

So we can now move on from your thread derailment?

Kadmos
09-07-2014, 11:56 PM
So we can now move on from your thread derailment?

Absolutely.

By all means, go back to the real point of this thread.

What was it again?


You've done your best to derail the thread as I knew you would when I posted it..

Ah yes, that was the reason for the thread, the thing with the "T".

Oswald Bastable
09-08-2014, 12:03 AM
What was it again?

Pedophilia...derailed by a pedophile apologist.

Kadmos
09-08-2014, 01:18 AM
Pedophilia...derailed by a pedophile apologist.

It was derailed in post #1.

Does that make you a.....?

Krupski
09-08-2014, 08:11 AM
You mean, as opposed to just posting something to be an asshole in a thread?

How about this, why don't all the Jews in Israel convert to Islam and live in peace with their Islamic half-brothers? After all, you're all descended from Abraham. Seeing as the Islamic branch of the family has multiplied so much, maybe they are the favored ones of God now. Ya'll could convert and be the intellectual ones of Islam.


Doesn't that post make you a "nazi", to be hated forever here (and this post repeatedly thrown in your face year after year)?

Oh yeah, I forgot the obligatory hitler smileys.......


:hitler::hitler::hitler::hitler::hitler:


Gotta be at least 5.

FunkyPertwee
09-08-2014, 10:01 AM
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/19041-woman-who-reported-muslim-pedophilia-forced-into-diversity-training


“You must never [again] refer to Asian men,” and your “awareness of ethnic issues” needs to be raised. This chastisement was given to a UK Home Office researcher who, apparently, was thought guilty of “racism.” Her offense?
She blew the whistle on a pedophilia ring in the English town of Rotherham.


Colin Hart, director of The Christian Institute in New Castle, says social workers warned authorities that something was wrong.
"But they continually ignored the concerns that were raised," says Hart, "and in one case a social worker was disciplined for raising concerns."
The Associated Press and BBC have reported the perpetrators were Pakistani, and political correctness trumped law enforcement action.

Kadmos and his fucked up pedophile apologist friends are going to bring this to the US if we don't put the dirty commies back in their place.

N/A
09-08-2014, 12:32 PM
Doesn't that post make you a "nazi", to be hated forever here (and this post repeatedly thrown in your face year after year)?

Oh yeah, I forgot the obligatory hitler smileys.......


:hitler::hitler::hitler::hitler::hitler:


Gotta be at least 5.

I don't see how, as there is no reference to Hitler, Germany, WWII or Nazism? Actually, it was using Kadmosism to point out that Israel /Jews could stop the Muslims from trying to wipe them out by simply converting to Islam.

Krupski
09-08-2014, 02:39 PM
I don't see how, as there is no reference to Hitler, Germany, WWII or Nazism? Actually, it was using Kadmosism to point out that Israel /Jews could stop the Muslims from trying to wipe them out by simply converting to Islam.

I don't see how either, but yet it happens.....

Oswald Bastable
09-08-2014, 03:22 PM
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/19041-woman-who-reported-muslim-pedophilia-forced-into-diversity-training



Kadmos and his fucked up pedophile apologist friends are going to bring this to the US if we don't put the dirty commies back in their place.

It's my bet that this is already happening in places like Dearbornistan and Minneapolis, and that social services is already looking the other way so they aren't seen as being all racis and shit...

Oswald Bastable
09-09-2014, 08:32 PM
It's my bet that this is already happening in places like Dearbornistan and Minneapolis...

Whoop, there it is: http://www.twincities.com/newsletter-morning/ci_16559529?nclick_check=1

Muslim Somali gangs from the Twin Cities, grooming and trafficking underage girls in the US...

No doubt going unchecked in most muslim enclaves around the country.

ready
09-09-2014, 08:40 PM
Anybody who believes that immigrants are not importing the same criminal activity they were engaged in in their home countries to the U.S. is a moron.

Oswald Bastable
09-09-2014, 11:54 PM
Anybody who believes that immigrants are not importing the same criminal activity they were engaged in in their home countries to the U.S. is a moron.

Yes, many immigrant cultures have their share of pedophiles, just as there are plenty of Caucasian pedophile rings throughout western society...but there is only one religion that codifies, encourages, aids and abets pedophilia based on its religious texts...

Krupski
09-10-2014, 10:28 AM
Anybody who believes that immigrants are not importing the same criminal activity they were engaged in in their home countries to the U.S. is a moron.


Yes, many immigrant cultures have their share of pedophiles, just as there are plenty of Caucasian pedophile rings throughout western society...but there is only one religion that codifies, encourages, aids and abets pedophilia based on its religious texts...


The word "immigrant" should not be used in a context like this. The USA is made up of immigrants. My grandparents were immigrants. I'm only second generation American.

Equating "immigrant" with "illegal criminals" is an insult to immigrants.

An "immigrant" is someone who wants to be an American, disavows any loyalty to their country, swears allegiance to OUR Country and assimilates into American culture, finally becoming a productive American citizen.

The criminals coming here illegally from Mexico, Somalia and God-knows where else are NOT "immigrants". They are ILLEGAL ALIENS. Or just aliens. Or just illegals. But not IMMIGRANTS.

ready
09-10-2014, 03:16 PM
It's both the criminal trespassing version and the here legally version. We've fashioned a system that draws them here like flies. It's the land of opportunity alright, just not for us.

Krupski
09-11-2014, 01:00 AM
It's both the criminal trespassing version and the here legally version. We've fashioned a system that draws them here like flies. It's the land of opportunity alright, just not for us.

I have no problem with legal immigrants. This Country is made up of immigrants. My grandparents were immigrants from Europe. It's the illegal aliens that I have a problem with.

ready
09-11-2014, 01:42 AM
My family came here from Germany a few generations ago as far as I can tell. But when our families came here, that's when immigrants came here to work and succeed. Now with our system of handing out free shit we attract more of the wrong kind of immigrants. I don't have a problem with anyone who comes here to be productive.

LAGC
09-11-2014, 02:04 AM
My family came here from Germany a few generations ago as far as I can tell. But when our families came here, that's when immigrants came here to work and succeed. Now with our system of handing out free shit we attract more of the wrong kind of immigrants. I don't have a problem with anyone who comes here to be productive.

Well, and see, here's the disconnect. The vast majority of "illegal aliens" come here for work. That's why they are called undocumented workers. If there weren't plenty of employers willing to hire them, they wouldn't keep coming. Which is why the Chamber of Commerce wants to pass amnesty so bad, since businesses large and small depend on these people who work so hard for such low wages, whether it be in the fields, in the orchards, on the farms, landscaping and groundskeeping, or what have you.

It's actually quite a chore to get on welfare these days (even if you can produce all the papers and jump through all the hoops proving you are a U.S. citizen) so this idea that foreigners are coming across "just for free shit" is asinine. Want to stop the flow of immigrants? Force all employers to use e-Verify. But that will never happen, because our corporate masters will never allow such "red tape" to impede their business operations. The same reason amnesty will eventually happen again, even if it ends up being the Republicans who lead the charge. Money talks and bullshit walks.

Oswald Bastable
09-11-2014, 05:08 AM
The vast majority of "illegal aliens" come here for work. That's why they are called undocumented workers.

A euphemistic double-speak term coined by the left to make criminals sound less unsavory.


If there weren't plenty of employers willing to hire them, they wouldn't keep coming. Which is why the Chamber of Commerce wants to pass amnesty so bad, since businesses large and small depend on these people who work so hard for such low wages, whether it be in the fields, in the orchards, on the farms, landscaping and groundskeeping, or what have you.

So what...how does that desire obviate the government's responsibility to keep "illegal aliens" out of the country?


More bullshit deflect from the topic blather...

Note that these grooming gangs are all part of legal muslim immigrant groups, so all your attempts to deflect with the idea of illegals are specious.

But you are following your handler's programming quite explicitly...yes?

Krupski
09-11-2014, 01:13 PM
Well, and see, here's the disconnect. The vast majority of "illegal aliens" come here for work. That's why they are called undocumented workers. If there weren't plenty of employers willing to hire them, they wouldn't keep coming. Which is why the Chamber of Commerce wants to pass amnesty so bad, since businesses large and small depend on these people who work so hard for such low wages, whether it be in the fields, in the orchards, on the farms, landscaping and groundskeeping, or what have you.

Translation: Businesses have come to rely on breaking the law in order to be (or remain) profitable. Sorry, but illegal is illegal.

If we're going to hand out "amnesty" so that businesses profiting from illegal activities won't go under, then why can't I just go out and rob a bank?

It would certainly supplement my income to steal wads of cash from a bank. And, when I get used to living my new lifestyle, just give me "amnesty" so that I can continue my illegal activities.

Think about it... that is EXACTLY what you are supporting and justifying!