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LAGC
01-24-2015, 08:46 AM
(CNN)The measles outbreak in California is growing.

The number of cases has increased to 68, with 48 of those cases linked to an outbreak at Disneyland, state health officials reported Friday.

Two days ago, the health department reported 59 cases, 42 with a Disney connection.

In addition, nine cases have been reported in Arizona, Utah, Washington, Colorado, Oregon and Mexico. A new case was reported in Nevada, but the Southern Nevada Health District said it's unknown whether that case is Disney-related.

The disease outbreak apparently surfaced when visitors reported coming down with measles after visiting the park December 15-20. At least five Disney employees have been diagnosed with measles, Disney said.
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For the most part, measles spreads among those who have not been vaccinated against the virus.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/23/health/california-measles-outbreak/index.html

I can't begin to tell you how much contempt I hold the parents of these people in, putting their own children at serious risk like that and exposing others with weak immune systems (infants and elderly) to the very real specter of DYING from their ignorant, selfish actions.


Almost a decade ago, actress Jenny McCarthy became the spokesman for the anti-vaccination movement, a movement that's only grown stronger, finding support among liberal, well-educated communities.

VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM!!! It has been THOROUGHLY debunked by countless fucking studies. Stupid ignorant sheeple!

And liberals are supposed to be the "smart" ones, the "pro-science" team who knows better.

How embarrassing. And how tragic for all those innocent kids in California who are now suffering because of their parents' irrational fears fomented by that dumb Hollywood actress BITCH who doesn't understand the difference between causation and correlation.

:countdown:

LAGC
01-24-2015, 08:51 AM
http://img2.timeinc.net/health/images/slides/child-girl-measles-400x400.jpg

http://media.cirrusmedia.com.au/6M_Media_Library/Images/Medical/Measles.jpg

http://jdc325.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/measles_3.jpg

Ignorance kills.

1 Patriot-of-many
01-24-2015, 11:22 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/23/health/california-measles-outbreak/index.html

I can't begin to tell you how much contempt I hold the parents of these people in, putting their own children at serious risk like that and exposing others with weak immune systems (infants and elderly) to the very real specter of DYING from their ignorant, selfish actions.



VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM!!! It has been THOROUGHLY debunked by countless fucking studies. Stupid ignorant sheeple!

And liberals are supposed to be the "smart" ones, the "pro-science" team who knows better.

How embarrassing. And how tragic for all those innocent kids in California who are now suffering because of their parents' irrational fears fomented by that dumb Hollywood actress BITCH who doesn't understand the difference between causation and correlation.

:countdown: And Mr. Genius what does cause Autism? BTW could you explain the cases that were inoculated and got diseases? Thirdly, why aren't you against illegal immigration then, since many in the third world haven't ANY shots........ weird how your logic works isn't it?

Oswald Bastable
01-24-2015, 11:23 AM
MAN DOES NOT CAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE!!! It has been THOROUGHLY debunked by countless fucking millions of years of climate history. Stupid ignorant sheeple!

Just sayin'!

ltorlo64
01-24-2015, 11:42 AM
No, liberals are not the "smart" ones, they are the indoctrinated ones that do not know how to use critical thinking and common sense to tell when they are being duped.

NAPOTS
01-24-2015, 11:53 AM
yep, my wife and I can't believe the stupidity of these people. let's go back to the dark ages where it is very common for children to die of diseases that are easily preventable

5.56NATO
01-24-2015, 12:48 PM
Here's more fruit of liberal policies;
Video shows killing of clerk over cigarettes near Phoenix
He was also banned two weeks ago from the Mesa store where the shooting occurred.
Police say the suspect dumped change on the counter from a jar to pay for cigarettes while repeatedly telling clerk Grant Ronnebeck, "You're not gonna give me my cigarettes." Then, the assailant pulled out a gun and repeated the same statement — even as Ronnebeck tried to hand him a pack — before opening fire.
The victim was shot in the face, a prosecutor told the judge at Altamirano's initial court appearance at which the defendant stood with both hands on a lectern, shifting from side to side and giving his name and date of birth when asked by the court.
Altamirano was arrested after a pursuit across much of the Phoenix area that ended with a crash. In arguing against bail, the prosecutor cited the fact that the suspect is in the country illegally and has a criminal record.
Police searched his car after the killing and located a 9-mm handgun, two packs of Marlboros and several casings of ammunition.
http://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-killing-clerk-over-cigarettes-near-phoenix-215402087.html

Also, most every vaccine has adjuvants such as mercury, often in the form of thimerosol or whatever it's called. There is no amount of mercury that is safe for humans, especially children. The mercury acts on the brain.
"Mercury poisoning (also known as hydrargyria or mercurialism) is a type of metal poisoning and a medical condition caused by exposure to mercury or its compounds. Mercury (chemical symbol Hg) is a heavy metal occurring in several forms, all of which except elemental liquid mercury (for which even injection fails to produce toxicity[1][2]) produce toxicity or death with less than a gram. Its zero oxidation state Hg0 exists as vapor or as liquid metal, its mercurous state Hg22+ exists as inorganic salts, and its mercuric state Hg2+ may form either inorganic salts or organomercury compounds; the three groups vary in effects. Toxic effects include damage to the brain, kidneys and lungs.[3] Mercury poisoning can result in several diseases, including acrodynia (pink disease),[4] Hunter-Russell syndrome,[5] and Minamata disease.[6]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_poisoning


If you want to inject known and unknown toxins and virii directly into immature immune systems that's your problem. And a curse on your children.

Speaking of known and unknown virii;
"SV40 is an abbreviation for Simian vacuolating virus 40 or Simian virus 40, a polyomavirus that is found in both monkeys and humans. It was named for the effect it produced on infected green monkey cells, which developed an unusual number of vacuoles. Like other polyomaviruses, SV40 is a DNA virus that has the potential to cause tumors, but most often persists as a latent infection.
SV-40 discovery revealed that between 1955 and 1963 around 90% of children and 60% of adults in USA were inoculated with SV40-contaminated poliovirus vaccines.[1]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV40



You have no clue exactly what all is in any vaccine.




Do it for the children.

Kadmos
01-24-2015, 02:31 PM
This is not a ideological issue. Currently about 30% of the population leans anti-vaccine. It's about 28% of either party and slightly higher for independents.

Several high profile conservatives have spoken out against vaccination. Obviously Bachmann, with the HPV/ mental retardation comments. Donald Trump also spoke against them.

It really is sad

studmuffin
01-24-2015, 05:07 PM
Have to agree with kadmos on this one. Its a real liberatarian issue that runs from hippies to arch conservative types, those who are convinced that the so called epidemic in childhood autism is the result of vaccinations. These folks apparently are not aware of how devastating childhood diseases were before modern immunization, and that as many as 7 out of 10 children failed to reach adulthood.

FunkyPertwee
01-24-2015, 05:20 PM
If enough of the population is immunized, then you don't necessarily need immunization yourself. I haven't heard of non-immunized children having worse health than the immunized in modern times, so I'm not sure its really that big of a deal so long as the percentage of non-immunized doesn't raise above the level that would allow an outbreak of a previously beaten disease amongst the general population.

Think hypothetically, if everyone you met during the day was immune from a disease, how would ever meet someone who had it to be able to contract it? This is a measurable phenomena, I just can't remember the name of it or what the max percentage of non-immunized can be before it stops working.

studmuffin
01-24-2015, 05:29 PM
In a perfect world without international travel and illegal immigration, that would sound But reality says otherwise.

FunkyPertwee
01-24-2015, 05:46 PM
In a perfect world without international travel and illegal immigration, that would sound But reality says otherwise.

What did I say?

The percentage of the non-immunized must remain below a certain level. Non-immunized foreigners get counted in that number. As long as there isn't too many, you should be ok. Can you get sick? Certainly. But if everyone else is immunized than your chances are pretty slim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

Vaccination acts as a sort of firebreak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebreak) or firewall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewall_%28construction%29) in the spread of the disease (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease), slowing or preventing further transmission of the disease to others.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity#cite_note-Fine-4) Unvaccinated individuals are indirectly protected by vaccinated individuals, as the latter are less likely to contract and transmit the disease between infected and susceptible individuals.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity#cite_note-Smallpox-3)

Keep this in mind however:

While social networks have a lower herd immunity threshold, in humans, the perception of this lower threshold can adversely affect voluntary inoculation rates, potentially making herd immunity more fragile.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity#cite_note-14)

Kadmos
01-24-2015, 06:19 PM
If enough of the population is immunized, then you don't necessarily need immunization yourself. I haven't heard of non-immunized children having worse health than the immunized in modern times, so I'm not sure its really that big of a deal so long as the percentage of non-immunized doesn't raise above the level that would allow an outbreak of a previously beaten disease amongst the general population.

Think hypothetically, if everyone you met during the day was immune from a disease, how would ever meet someone who had it to be able to contract it? This is a measurable phenomena, I just can't remember the name of it or what the max percentage of non-immunized can be before it stops working.

Really? Because the story is about how mostly non-immunized kids are getting measles. I would call that "worse health".

In a sense of course you are correct, if enough people are immunized then there is a type of herd immunity that mostly keeps the illness at bay. Or more accurately partly at bay.

The problem though is this sentence from the article...

For the most part, measles spreads among those who have not been vaccinated against the virus.

Which means kids who were immunized caught the measles!

Now of course no immunization is 100% perfect. But with measles being rare, and immunization protection being high, one has to wonder if the newer cases of measles aren't of a slightly mutated type.

When these non-immunized people do manage to catch it, they run the very real risk of helping it mutate to a much more immunization resistant disease. Or one immunization simply does not work on.

studmuffin
01-24-2015, 06:38 PM
Yet unimmunized children are potential kinks in the herd immunity armor and present potential threats to the community at large. I see signs outside the local schools saying no immunization no entry. It is a growing problem with parents fearing the wrong things based on questionable statistics at best. I still remember people fearing invisible waves from high tension power lines. Talk about stupid.

NAPOTS
01-24-2015, 07:26 PM
The vaccine doesn't work 100% of the time. by not vaccinating your kid you are putting other children at risk too by increasing the odds that they come across the virus.

5.56NATO
01-25-2015, 02:29 PM
Disneyland Measles Outbreak Caused By Vaccine?
People receiving CDC recommended doses of vaccine are still catching and passing on measles
http://www.infowars.com/disneyland-measles-outbreak-caused-by-vaccine/

LAGC
01-25-2015, 03:08 PM
Disneyland Measles Outbreak Caused By Vaccine?
People receiving CDC recommended doses of vaccine are still catching and passing on measles
http://www.infowars.com/disneyland-measles-outbreak-caused-by-vaccine/

That's why they have MMR booster shots for adults, because some childhood vaccines wear off after so many years.

I got mine last time I had my annual check-up, and other than a minor bump and rash at the injection site for a few days, I didn't feel a thing.

I'm safe and protected now. Are you?

Kadmos
01-25-2015, 04:06 PM
Disneyland Measles Outbreak Caused By Vaccine?
People receiving CDC recommended doses of vaccine are still catching and passing on measles
http://www.infowars.com/disneyland-measles-outbreak-caused-by-vaccine/

Someone needs to go slap the shit out of those people at infowars!

What a bunch of dumb ass nonsense.

What used to kill a couple million people a year is now down to about 150,000 deaths per year.

If the vaccine caused the disease then why did Ireland go from 100,00 cases per year before 1985 when they introduced it all the way down to 201 cases in 87...just 2 years later?

BTW, a 150,000 deaths per year is still ridiculously high! That should only happen because some folks in extremely remote places don't have access to it, not because dumb fuck parents decided to make "a choice" not to vaccinate their kids because some blond tramp or a nutjob on infowars mouthed off.

Ask anyone born before 1950 their opinion on it...the folks who remember losing a good portion of their childhood friends to that shit and other diseases we basically could have wiped out if not for stupid people.

1 Patriot-of-many
01-25-2015, 05:44 PM
That's why they have MMR booster shots for adults, because some childhood vaccines wear off after so many years.

I got mine last time I had my annual check-up, and other than a minor bump and rash at the injection site for a few days, I didn't feel a thing.

I'm safe and protected now. Are you? And we see how you turned out......

5.56NATO
01-26-2015, 03:35 PM
According to two Merck scientists who filed a False Claims Act complaint in 2010 -- a complaint which was unsealed three years ago -- vaccine manufacturer Merck knowingly falsified its mumps vaccine test data, spiked blood samples with animal antibodies, sold a vaccine that actually promoted mumps and measles outbreaks, and ripped off governments and consumers who bought the vaccine thinking it was "95% effective."
http://www.naturalnews.com/048402_measles_vaccine_scientific_fraud_court_docu ments.html#ixzz3PxhTfS5V

5.56NATO
01-30-2015, 10:49 AM
5-Year-Old Girl Dies After Catching the Flu, Even After Getting Vaccine
A Las Vegas kindergartner who died days after coming down with the flu felt well enough to play outside 24 hours before she collapsed, her father told ABC News.

Kiera Driscoll, 5, had a slight fever on Sunday morning, but she seemed to be feeling better after taking some children's ibuprofen, said her father, Patrick Driscoll.

"In fact, she was playing outside that afternoon with my wife and even made a comment that it was 'the most fun time ever,'" Driscoll said
https://gma.yahoo.com/5-old-girl-dies-catching-flu-even-getting-004000852.html

LAGC
01-31-2015, 12:24 PM
According to two Merck scientists who filed a False Claims Act complaint in 2010 -- a complaint which was unsealed three years ago -- vaccine manufacturer Merck knowingly falsified its mumps vaccine test data, spiked blood samples with animal antibodies, sold a vaccine that actually promoted mumps and measles outbreaks, and ripped off governments and consumers who bought the vaccine thinking it was "95% effective."
http://www.naturalnews.com/048402_measles_vaccine_scientific_fraud_court_docu ments.html#ixzz3PxhTfS5V

"Natural News" is nothing but 100% woo, 100% of the time. You may as well read the National Enquirer if you want a news source that claims to know what it's talking about.

:coffee:


5-Year-Old Girl Dies After Catching the Flu, Even After Getting Vaccine

That's because the flu virus mutates (though not as fast the common cold virus) and has many strains, so the flu vaccine only targets the major ones.

Unlike the mumps/measles/rubella vaccine, which is much more effective and doesn't need a booster every single year.