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LAGC
10-07-2010, 04:14 PM
As the Democratic Party struggles to find an electoral path which will enable it to avoid losing control of the House of Representatives in November, one surprising source of hope is the National Rifle Association.

Although generally seen as a close ally of the Republicans, the group is actually willing to support any candidate who favors gun rights. According to the Washington Post, the NRA "has endorsed 58 incumbent House Democrats, including more than a dozen in seats that both parties view as critical to winning a majority."

"The endorsements aren't the result of a sudden love for a party with which the NRA is often at odds," the Post notes. "Rather, the powerful group adheres to what it calls 'an incumbent-friendly' policy, which holds that if two candidates are equally supportive of gun rights, the incumbent gets the nod. ... The policy is frustrating Republicans who think the group is hurting its own cause and the party's chances next month."

In one typical case, the Associated Press reported this week that "the National Rifle Association has endorsed North Carolina Democratic Rep. Larry Kissell in his first re-election bid. The chairman of the NRA's Political Victory Fund said Wednesday gun owners and hunters can trust Kissell to fight for their Second Amendment rights. The endorsement provides a boost for Kissell as he seeks re-election against Republican challenger Harold Johnson in one of the state's most competitive congressional districts."

The NRA's pro-incumbent policy is proving particularly helpful to some prominent Democrats in conservative districts -- such as South Dakota's Stephanie Herseth Sandlin and Virginia freshman Tom Perriello -- and has been a source of embarrassment to Republicans who have to explain why they have not gotten the nod.

As Matthew Sheffield points out at the Washington Examiner, the NRA endorsements are particularly rankling to conservatives who see them almost as a betrayal.

In an entry titled "The NRA is Helping Preserve the Anti Gun Democrat Majority," redstate.com blogger Daniel Horowitz recently complained, "Believe it or not, the only ones who might help Nancy Pelosi save her House majority are those who run legislative affairs at the NRA."

"So called Blue Dog Democrats across the nation are campaigning as red meat conservatives in their home districts, while running deceptive ads about their Republican opponents," Horowitz explained. "They campaign as if they have nothing to do with the Democrat Party that they propelled to power and which passed all of the nefarious legislation that they purport to oppose. The sick irony is that the more successful these liars are in distancing themselves from Pelosi, the more likely it will be that Pelosi will remain Speaker."

An NRA executive director, however, recently justified the group's bipartisan policy in an interview with the National Review. "One of the primary reasons that the National Rifle Association and gun owners continue to have success at the federal, state, and local levels," he explained, "is because we’re a single-issue organization. ... Those decisions have allowed us to build a bipartisan majority now that has proven to be not only beneficial but, I would argue, invaluable to protecting and promoting the Second Amendment. ... If it weren’t for our pro-gun Democrats, we would be having a very different conversation."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/nra-backs-house-democrats/

LAGC
10-07-2010, 04:15 PM
I was really surprised the NRA didn't endorse anyone in the Nevada Senate race. Harry Reid has done a good job keeping anti-gun bills off the Senate floor, but he did vote for Sotomayor and Kagan for the Supreme Court, so the NRA docked him a little... but still acknowledges that a Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer would be bad news for gun-owners.

mriddick
10-07-2010, 04:17 PM
In Ohio the NRA backed the Dem candidate for governor VS the R. The Dem has had a strong A rating for guns for years, the R voted for the clinton AWB of 1994, I'd say it's good the NRA isn't an automatic vote for any R regardless of who gets the house.

NRAJOE
10-07-2010, 04:19 PM
Yup...I voted for 2 progun Dems via absentee ballot over two Rhino's.

crapshoot
10-07-2010, 04:42 PM
If the nra doesn't support liberals like they are supporting harry reid, then they wouldn't be able to sucker you schleps into giving them more money.

They can suck my left nut before I give them a dime. Typical lobbyists that are just hungry for money and power. Shame so many people have been brainwashed by them over the years.

circuits
10-07-2010, 05:52 PM
Yup...I voted for 2 progun Dems via absentee ballot over two Rhino's.

I've never seen a progun Dem, though there are a lot who are pro-hunting and pro-skeet shooting (at least around election time).

mriddick
10-07-2010, 06:02 PM
I might not vote for a R but I've really had a hard time voting for a D regardless of anyone's ratings. Until the progun D's I keep reading about stop voting in an antigun leadership or confirming antigun judges I'm not using my vote to send them to DC. I'll just set out of that vote until the progun D's stand up to their leadership.

imanaknut
10-07-2010, 10:01 PM
It is too bad these NRA backed "pro-gun" democrats almost always vote the party line, which in the case of what is happening in DC these days, is leading this country down a road to destruction.

The last time I gave the NRA a piece of my mind in lieu of dollars was when their "god" (yes small case because he was human) declared that he didn't know why anyone would want to own an Automatic Kalashnikov. Even the great Heston didn't get it!

HDR
10-07-2010, 10:04 PM
In Ohio the NRA backed the Dem candidate for governor VS the R. The Dem has had a strong A rating for guns for years, the R voted for the clinton AWB of 1994, I'd say it's good the NRA isn't an automatic vote for any R regardless of who gets the house.


Quit posting facts..

;) ;) lol

Ruskiegunlover
10-07-2010, 10:09 PM
I am always SOOOOO glad not to be a member of the nra. Even luke-warm repubs on gun control are still better then the average socialist democrat. None of this surprises me.

They want to occassionally support a dem, because it keeps them in business. Kind of like the 'anti' child murder dems who voted for the murder-care bill.......Anti-abortion voters chose them, THINKING they would stay with the issue. Guess what, they didn't. So supporting a dem, when the chances of them staying WITH us, is incredibly stupid.

1 Patriot-of-many
10-07-2010, 10:48 PM
NRA is a SINGLE issue endorsement. Think it's time they started thinking of more than single issues. Lets face it, even where you find a Dem who voted progun, they still are part of the Socialist/Communist agenda. While it might like nice short term, the ultimate goal is the problem eventually when they shut us up and take over everything, those votes are gonna change on guns too.

JTHunter
10-08-2010, 12:21 AM
Here in Illinois, the NRA is endorsing Jerry "Jesus Christ" Costello AGAIN. After tellin his constituents that he would not vote in favor of ObamaCare early this year, the traitorous SoB turned around and voted FOR it! It doesn't matter WHAT the NRA says in his case, that was J.C.'s "last straw" as far as I was concerned.
:swear: :punch: :tongue0002:

weevil
10-08-2010, 12:37 AM
I dunno I kinda have mixed emotions on this one.

Yeah I don't like the idea of the Dems keeping their majorities in congress but I do sorta see the NRA's strategy too.


If they blindly support Repubs then where's the incentive for Dems to be pro-gun or for Repubs to be pro-gun for that matter?


If the Repubs can vote anti or simply twiddle their thumbs and look the other way when anti-laws are passed and still count on an endorsement from the NRA simply because they have an R by their name then what are we accomplishing???

Whats more what incentive do Dems have to stand up for 2A if they know their opponent will get the NRA endorsement regardless of what they do to support the RKBA???


While I don't like the Dems agenda in general I can understand and appreciate their efforts to reach out to the NRA and gunowners on this one issue.


When it comes to this one particular issue strong bipartisan support from both sides of the aisle is better than having our fate tied to the fortunes and misfortunes of one party.

HDR
10-08-2010, 05:21 AM
As Lafty is getting nervous about the democrats losing times are good..

lol

Richard Simmons
10-08-2010, 08:30 AM
As noted the NRA is a single issue organization. To expand/broaden that interest to mulitple issues would diminish the focus and resources from that single issue which is the second amendment. Personally I'd rather see them increase their support and efforts for the 2A rather than branching out.