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Aggressive Perfector
05-14-2015, 09:57 PM
A buddy of mine traded his Smith & Wesson MP15 for one of these (IMO a stupid trade on his part). Guess he just wanted a 1911 so badly and was bored of his AR. Now almost a month later he wants to trade it to me for my Glock 19. Currently we're in a no commitment trade.

I'm not a 1911 guy, but I've always wanted one. After firing it and learning how it strips down I've grown fond of this pistol, but I'm not sure it's worth trading my one and only hand gun that I carry daily (Glock 19) for. My primary reason for this being that it's a single stack. While the .45 ACP is a great cartridge for defensive purposes, I can only carry 9 at a time (8 in the mag, one in the chamber) and an extra mag which means less shots before reloading compared to a Glock 19. For most situations 8 rounds is plenty, but I like "overkill". It's never possible to have too many, but very possible to have too few. On the other hand, I do seem to shoot better groups with this 1911 vs my Glock 19. I like how slim it is and it seems to fit my hand well. However, with the longer barrel and slide it will be less comfortable to conceal.

As for the gun itself, being branded a Taurus doesn't inspire much confidence. They seem to be considered on par with IO for making crap. However the reviews I have found from people who have these guns are pretty positive. One or two have complained that the earlier mags Taurus shipped with these guns weren't very reliable, but Taurus sent them replacements that worked well, and the guns ran great with other manufacturers mags. Maybe they stepped up their game for these? It comes with a matte black finish, ambidextrous thumb safety, ventilated light trigger, extended beaver tail, 8 round mags, and a much nicer set of sights than I'm used to seeing on "cheap" 1911's.

Any of you 1911 fanboys ( :tongue: ) got thoughts on this?

FunkyPertwee
05-14-2015, 10:25 PM
No fucking way.

Your Glock is your primary sidearm and has already proven itself. No reason to dick around with your carry gun when the 1911 won't provide any real advantage. You don't need a match grade trigger in your carry piece, you do need dead-nuts reliability.

Nothing wrong with a 1911 but I've had bad experiences with two expensive officer models from two different brands, and I've had bad experience with a Taurus brand revolver. I would not make the trade, and I am not a Glock fanboy. I don't own a single Glock.

NAPOTS
05-14-2015, 10:29 PM
Before I give my answer let me say I'm a 1911 guy and don't own a glock. I'd keep the glock for carry because it is a gun you are familiar with. Since you are enjoying the 1911 I'd buy a decent one set up the way you like. You can always decide to carry it later as you become more comfortable with it. Keep in mind for carry you need to develope a manual of arms specific to the 1911.not a problem will just require a lot of presentation drills to make taking the safety off an instinctive part of the draw

s15v8
05-15-2015, 01:13 AM
I own a Glock 19 and a Taurus 1911, I love them both, since you're used to carrying your 19, I'd just save up to buy one, I paid $530 for mine used and it came with night sights (the 1911)

Aggressive Perfector
05-15-2015, 01:46 AM
Thanks for the input. I do think I'll hang on to my Glock 19 and give back the 1911, much as I am enjoying it. It's a pleasure to shoot (though more expensive), but I'm used to the Glock and all its' retard proof simplicity regarding drawing and firing. While I could Carry the 1911 without any of the safeties engaged, I'm not sure just how safe it is to handle one with a round in the chamber and no external safeties engaged compared to Glock's "safe action" mechanism. I will get a 1911 eventually, but probably not for daily carry so much as a range toy. The way I like to carry just does not work for a full size 1911.

deth502
05-15-2015, 02:49 AM
take the trade, get the 1911 then go out and spend the $400 and buy yourself a brand new blue label glock. i havent seen the 1911s that cheap anywhere.

ltorlo64
05-15-2015, 04:44 AM
I have both a G19 and a 1911 (a Springfield GI). The G19 is much better suited for concealed carry and, as you point out, has almost twice the rounds in one mag as the 1911 has in 2. Based on that I think you are making the right call to keep the G19. If you like the 1911 I agree with saving up and buying one. For a little more you can get a very nice pistol from Springfield or Rock Island.

Richard Simmons
05-15-2015, 05:56 AM
IMHO it's not a good move to just switch your daily carry from the striker fired Glock to the cocked and locked 1911. Too big a difference in operation. That being said, as far as the trade itself Taurus seems to make a very good 1911 at a better than average price point. A coworker has several in .45 ACP and 9x19 and has no complaints. He even runs them in IDPA matches. If you want to switch to a 1911 platform I'd go for the trade but consider spending some time and ammo at the range before you start carrying it.

alismith
05-15-2015, 07:43 AM
To paraphrase someone else, "If you like your Glock, you can keep your Glock."

NAPOTS
05-15-2015, 07:48 AM
Thanks for the input. I do think I'll hang on to my Glock 19 and give back the 1911, much as I am enjoying it. It's a pleasure to shoot (though more expensive), but I'm used to the Glock and all its' retard proof simplicity regarding drawing and firing. While I could Carry the 1911 without any of the safeties engaged, I'm not sure just how safe it is to handle one with a round in the chamber and no external safeties engaged compared to Glock's "safe action" mechanism. I will get a 1911 eventually, but probably not for daily carry so much as a range toy. The way I like to carry just does not work for a full size 1911.

If you are going to be carrying a 1911 it's condition 1: cocked and locked safety on, or condition 3: mag in gun, empty chamber. Easiest is to just establish a manual of arms where you take the safety off after the pistol leaves the holster. Make sure it is at a point in your draw where you can fire from retention. Once you commit it to muscle memory it's not a big deal.

l921428x
05-15-2015, 12:30 PM
Keep the Glock because you are used to carrying it and get a 1911 later. FWIW I would not want you to leave yourself naked as you learn a new
pistol. Just my .02.

Schuetzenman
05-25-2015, 07:00 AM
Late to the discussion, but I'm going to give my 2 cents anyway. KEEP THE GLOCK!!!! As others have said if you want a 1911, save up. KEEP THE GLOCK!!!! I started with a 1911 for CCW in the late 1970's. I carry it in condition 1, cocked and locked in a pancake holster with a thumb break strap that goes between the hammer and slide. I obtained my first Glock 19 in 1993, still have it. I CCW with that one 90+% and the 1911 mostly sits in the vault.

Did I mention KEEP THE GLOCK? :wavey:

Helen Keller
05-26-2015, 02:36 PM
IMHO... NOPE , resale on a glock always high... resale on a taurus ( unless it's an older revovler) ='s SHIT.


Im a 1911 snob and would only take a used/second hand taurus 1911 if it was $275 or under. Cause I'll be spending $200 or so more to make it worth a shit .




I'd take a RIA 1911 any day over a taurus.