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slamfire51
10-16-2010, 08:02 AM
I purchased a Mosin 91/30, and disassembled it to inspect and clean.
In the process of removing the bands, the finish was scraped really bad. So much so, the stock will need to be refinished.
Is there a solution to this problem?
After the stock is refinished, I don't want this to happen the next time I take the rifle apart.

AKTexas
10-16-2010, 11:22 AM
I purchased a Mosin 91/30, and disassembled it to inspect and clean.
In the process of removing the bands, the finish was scraped really bad. So much so, the stock will need to be refinished.
Is there a solution to this problem?
After the stock is refinished, I don't want this to happen the next time I take the rifle apart.

What kind of finish?I used tung oil on stocks before after the bands are in place.Tap the bands and apply the oil.

slamfire51
10-16-2010, 11:39 AM
What kind of finish?I used tung oil on stocks before after the bands are in place.Tap the bands and apply the oil.


Typical Ruskie brown w/shellac.
I may sand down the areas leading to the bands final position. then refinish.
Thinking about putting a yellowish brown shellac AFTER I put the bands back on.

Like this one,
http://www.gunsnet.net/showthread.php?3018-43-from-90

AKTexas
10-16-2010, 11:40 AM
Typical Ruskie brown w/shellac.
I may sand down the areas leading to the bands final position. then refinish.
Thinking about putting a yellowish brown shellac AFTER I put the bands back on.

Like this one,
http://www.gunsnet.net/showthread.php?3018-43-from-90

That would be pretty nice looking.

slamfire51
10-16-2010, 11:43 AM
That would be pretty nice looking.

I like the color....a lot!

O.S.O.K.
10-16-2010, 11:48 AM
Well, two things come to mind. One is that you could smooth the inside and edges of the bands with a mill file or sand paper and then cold blue - that would reduce the cutting...

And the other thing is that I have some Bullseye Ruby Shellack in my shop - I got it a home depot believe it or not. This is a very close match to what they used - a redish shellack.

Hope you're patient though as the shellack takes a good bit to dry and set up.

Used it on this:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2677/4461982265_46a918140a_z.jpg

I used a spirit stain first - miliatry red - Brownell's carries it IIRC - I have a bottle I could look up the brand if you want...?

slamfire51
10-16-2010, 12:33 PM
Well, two things come to mind. One is that you could smooth the inside and edges of the bands with a mill file or sand paper and then cold blue - that would reduce the cutting...

And the other thing is that I have some Bullseye Ruby Shellack in my shop - I got it a home depot believe it or not. This is a very close match to what they used - a redish shellack.

Hope you're patient though as the shellack takes a good bit to dry and set up.

Used it on this:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2677/4461982265_46a918140a_z.jpg

I used a spirit stain first - miliatry red - Brownell's carries it IIRC - I have a bottle I could look up the brand if you want...?

Nice job on the AK. Pretty color.

But I have my heart set on a yellow shellac I used several yrs. ago on an Ironwood Maadi stock set.

For the life of me, I can't remember the brand name. It's been around for 50+ yrs.
If Gunsnet ever recovers the old board, and pics are still there, I post one of the Maadi.

slamfire51
10-16-2010, 04:28 PM
After ruining the finish by removing the bands, I decided to go ahead and strip the stock.
I was planning to use a chemical stripper, but after seeing how easily the finish was removed by the bands sliding over it, I decided to go a different route.

Years ago, my dad showed me how to remove most gun stock finishes by using a single edge razor blade by back dragging it over the finish. So I took a disposable razor knife and began scraping. This Ruskie shellac comes off like scraping paint off glass. Took me an hour to remove all the finish except what you see in the pic. This method is too easy.

Too, I think not using a chemical stripper will leave the inspection marks more visible.

BEFORE

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/Canis-latrans/011.jpg

AFTER
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/Canis-latrans/mosinstockstrip.jpg

aliceinchains
10-16-2010, 05:31 PM
Great scraping job. In my opinion it is the way to go. Much better than introducing a chemical on the wood. Old school is cool.:cool1:

Ironnewt
07-23-2011, 12:55 AM
You can spread the bands on most 91/30's by using a small screw driver and thereby prevent your need to refinish.