Just when it can't POSSIBLY get worse......

[Krupski]

BREAKING: California Governor Jerry Brown Guns Down the Constitution


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: JULY 1, 2016
Governor Jerry Brown signs 6, vetoes 4 gun control bills that were passed by the California Legislature yesterday.
SACRAMENTO – This morning, four-term Governor Jerry Brown conspired with other members of the State’s corrupt one-party majority to make it easier for criminals and terrorists to kill innocent people, said civil rights advocacy organization Firearms Policy Coalition.
Brown signed six and vetoed four of the eleven anti-gun, pro-terror bills that were passed by the Legislature yesterday.




The Governor signed the following bills today:

AB 1135 (Levine): Bans common and constitutionally-protected firearms that have magazine locking devices.
AB 1511 (Santiago): Criminalizes loaning of firearms between personally known, law-abiding adults, including family members, sportspersons, and competitors.
AB 1695 (Bonta): Makes a non-violent misdemeanor a prohibiting offense.
SB 880 (Hall): Bans common and constitutionally-protected firearms that have magazine locking devices.
SB 1235 (de Leon): New restrictions on ammunition purchases; creates a DOJ database of ammunition owners.
SB 1446 (Hancock): Statewide confiscatory ban on all lawfully-possessed standard-capacity ammunition feeding devices that hold more than 10 round; exemption for retired police

The Governor vetoed the following bills today:

AB 1673 (Gipson): Would have redefined “firearms” to include objects that are not firearms
AB 1674 (Santiago): Would have banned buying more than one firearm of any type within a 30-day period
AB 2607 (Ting): Would have dramatically expanded the reach of secret “Gun Violence Restraining Orders”
SB 894 (Jackson): Would have re-victimized victims of theft by criminalizing the failure to report lost and stolen firearms

OMFG!!!!!!!

read the rest here: https://www.firearmspolicy.org/press-releases/breaking-california-governor-jerry-brown-guns-down-the-constitution/ (if you can stomach it)


I think now is a good time for widespread civil disobedience. See if you California guys can top New York's non-compliance percentage!

[alismith]

Dimocrats doing what dimocrats do best....shred the Constitution and turn law-abiding citizens into criminals while making it safer for terrorists to operate in their state.

[Schuetzenman]

The stuff that revolutions are made of. I'm so glad I live nowhere near that fucked up shit-hole of a state.

[rci2950]

What's a magazine locking device?

[ltorlo64]

What's a magazine locking device?

Usually a bullet button, but anything that requires you to use a tool to remove a normally removable magazine. They are used to conform to the requirement that a removable magazine cannot be larger than 10 rounds (7 for NY).

[ltorlo64]

Dimocrats doing what dimocrats do best....shred the Constitution and turn law-abiding citizens into criminals while making it safer for terrorists to operate in their state.

I have been posting this often on FB and anywhere else that Democrats gather to claim they are working for freedom. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/11/liberals-not-conservatives-more-likely-possess-psy/

It is hard for Democrats/liberals to push for and support personal freedom and liberty as they do not understand what it is, nor do they want to. Their belief system is about total control of those weaker than themselves.

[skorpion]

Oh, here's the icing on the cake - the ammo ban:
https://www.fpcsadc.org/2016/07/01/the-ammo-ban-is-now-prop-63/

Californians will be limited to owning single-shot fudd guns in the future.

[Sherman]

California has not learned their lesson. Jihadi's love new gun restrictions. I say send all the Allah Akbar types to Hollywood and let them have at it. Pain is a great tool when used to teach a lesson. Also, move the US border to the east Cali border and let Mexico have it back.

[alismith]

California has not learned their lesson. Jihadi's love new gun restrictions. I say send all the Allah Akbar types to Hollywood and let them have at it. Pain is a great tool when used to teach a lesson. Also, move the US border to the east Cali border and let Mexico have it back.

How many states would have to ratify a resolution to rescind CA statehood status in the US?

[ltorlo64]

How many states would have to ratify a resolution to rescind CA statehood status in the US?

2/3s

[Justin]

Does this mean that California citizens will not be able to posses any detachable magazine fed rifle anymore?

[Richard Simmons]

Wasn't easy but moving to VA 25 years ago was one of the best choices my wife and I ever made. I can't imagine living in SoCal today .

[rci2950]

Soon be down to over/under shotguns with non toxic shot of a size no greater then 4 and .22 lr.

[blacksheep]

Time for folks to say it with their tax money and flee that state ASAP.

[alismith]

Time for folks to say it with their tax money and flee that state ASAP.

Say it with lead and stay....

[blacksheep]

Say it with lead and stay....

I'm not opposed to your line of thinking, but I like un-funding these cock smokers and leave them with their foreign leaches and see how that works out.

[ltorlo64]

Time for folks to say it with their tax money and flee that state ASAP.

I was just reading that more people are moving out of California than are moving in, by upwards of 250,000 or so. I also have read that if it weren't for births to illegal aliens the population of California would be declining. This is causing California's tax base to decline to which the politicians are trying to raise tax rates or create more taxes. Funny thing about that is many people who leave are going to areas where the tax rate is significantly lower. Anyway, what you said should happen is happening.

[Schuetzenman]

I was just reading that more people are moving out of California than are moving in, by upwards of 250,000 or so. I also have read that if it weren't for births to illegal aliens the population of California would be declining. This is causing California's tax base to decline to which the politicians are trying to raise tax rates or create more taxes. Funny thing about that is many people who leave are going to areas where the tax rate is significantly lower. Anyway, what you said should happen is happening.

The HQ for the company I work for is in Commiefornia, but it closes in Dec. 2016. They'd been there since 1990, but they've been driven out due to the super high cost of doing business there.

[JTHunter]

ltorlo64 - Illinois has the same predicament because of taxes, no budget, and "dim-o-crap" controlled state house. House speaker Madigan (Chicagoan and father of the state's AG) has been at the public trough for over 40 years while the Senate President Cullerton has been in for almost 40 years.

[jet3534]

Wasn't easy but moving to VA 25 years ago was one of the best choices my wife and I ever made. I can't imagine living in SoCal today .

Don't get to comfortable in VA. I saw how things were going in VA 10 years ago and moved to WV. VA once was a conservative State but largely due to changing demographics and the toxic proximity of Washington D.C., VA is constantly moving left.

[rci2950]

you know this could be viewed as a trial of how it will go for the rest of the US... With a squeak... browsing through all the news sites. Don't really see much other then the reporting on it. No protesters, nothing being organized. Similar to what happened in Canada When C68 (national registry) was implemented.

[Schuetzenman]

I'm waiting for Tank Monkey to post on this.

[Richard Simmons]

Don't get to comfortable in VA. I saw how things were going in VA 10 years ago and moved to WV. VA once was a conservative State but largely due to changing demographics and the toxic proximity of Washington D.C., VA is constantly moving left.

I hear ya. VA is pretty much solid red except for NOVA and the Hampton/Norfolk/VA Beach areas which have a high enough concentration of liberals to offset the rest of the state. Not sure we'll go to WV but my wife and I will be retiring within the next decade we've talked about doing so in a different state.

[Krupski]

The stuff that revolutions are made of. I'm so glad I live nowhere near that fucked up shit-hole of a state.



You and I both know that this is so easy to say.... "thank God it's not my state". But tomorrow, it may be. We gunowners ALL have to fight this communist, unconstitutional crap, even if it's not effecting us (today).

[Krupski]

Oh, here's the icing on the cake - the ammo ban:
https://www.fpcsadc.org/2016/07/01/the-ammo-ban-is-now-prop-63/

Californians will be limited to owning single-shot fudd guns in the future.



Know what? It's come to the time where we all have to say "fuck it" and not obey ANY of these assinine laws. If Hitlery can be a multiple felon and run for POTUS, if Eric Holder can commit multiple felonies and not be in prison, if Lon Horiuchi can kill a woman holding her baby in cold blood with a headshot from a rifle and still be sucking air, then WHY should WE have to obey ANYTHING these scum barf up?

It's like (actually it's worse than) the school bully calling a kid out to the parking lot to fight, demanding that the kid have both hands tied behind his back, and the kid OBEYING the demand (and then getting his ass kicked).

HOW LONG WILL WE, THE PEOPLE, PUT UP WITH THIS SHIT?????????

[alismith]

You and I both know that this is so easy to say.... "thank God it's not my state". But tomorrow, it may be. We gunowners ALL have to fight this communist, unconstitutional crap, even if it's not effecting us (today).

The liberal/progressive/dimocrat/communist party is on a roll. They aren't going to be satisfied with just a few states under their control. They won't stop until ALL the states are under their control.

Look at it this way: NY, CT, MA, MD, CO, and CA (and maybe a few others) are just them flexing their muscles to see how far they can go. These states were just their "training grounds" to see what they could get away with. Once they lock up the courts, and legal technicalities, they'll go for other states.

The only way to totally defeat them is the way our Founding Fathers wanted us to when government got out of control.... Anything less is just a setback for them.

[Krupski]

Does this mean that California citizens will not be able to posses any detachable magazine fed rifle anymore?



California rifle owners were able to comply with the law by using a "bullet button", a device that requires a "tool" to remove the magazine.

As usual, the commies weren't satisfied with their peons complying with the law... they had to f--k with it further.

From my original post:


SB 880 (Hall): Bans common and constitutionally-protected firearms that have magazine locking devices. <-- i.e. the bullet button.
SB 1446 (Hancock): Statewide confiscatory ban on all lawfully-possessed standard-capacity ammunition feeding devices that hold more than 10 round; exemption for retired police

As I read that, they plan not only to criminalize standard capacity magazines, they also plan to CONFISCATE them (LOTSA luck with that).

[Krupski]

The liberal/progressive/dimocrat/communist party is on a roll. They aren't going to be satisfied with just a few states under their control. They won't stop until ALL the states are under their control.

Look at it this way: NY, CT, MA, MD, CO, and CA (and maybe a few others) are just them flexing their muscles to see how far they can go. These states were just their "training grounds" to see what they could get away with. Once they lock up the courts, and legal technicalities, they'll go for other states.

The only way to totally defeat them is the way our Founding Fathers wanted us to when government got out of control.... Anything less is just a setback for them.



Well, if you look up the "compliance rate" of New York gun owners and the "SAFE act", or Connecticut gun owners and their "compliance rate" of their new restrictions, you will see that both are embarrassingly small (to the government).

Something like only 5% of NY and a percent or more of CT gun owners "complied". Also, both states saw a frenzy of gun purchases right after the "bans" went into effect.

Does that sound like we are "complying"?

If NY, CT and CA are "testing grounds" for gun bans, then the only lesson they've learned is that WE WILL NEVER COMPLY.

That, and "COME TRY AND TAKE THEM!"

[imanaknut]

In March 2013 a group of moms who thought disarmed slaves were safer than one with weapons decided to show up in downtown Indy to protest "all the gun violence". They were met with a whole bunch more honest citizens fully armed displaying that honest gun owners are not the problem and stop the assault on honest Americans. Amazing, not a shot was fired, everyone went home fully intact. And the government of Indiana decided that they had better leave our laws as is. We are among if not the most firearm friendly state in the USA.

I wonder what would happen in commiefornia if honest gun owners did the same in their state capital?

[tank_monkey]

I'm waiting for Tank Monkey to post on this.

It sucks :) (there, satisfied? ;) lol)

[tank_monkey]

What's worse is that the California Senate passed a bill NOT LISTED amongst the gun control measure. It specifically EXEMPTS California politicians THEMSELVES from any of the gun control measures they are passing for the general population.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/6/one-law-for-us-another-for-you/

[tank_monkey]

One, there are a TON of court cases waiting to SUE the state because of these laws. The most wide spread is the confiscation of legally owned high caps. That's a FIFTH Amendment violation. Some gun collectors have thousands of dollars worth of RARE magazines, many for guns which are not made any more or not imported any more. It's dangerous because the Liberal Democrats are on a rampage. They're trying to push as much left wing shit through before Obama leaves office. They really think that trump may win or that Hillary isn't as liberal as Obama was (both of which are true).

I'm waiting for the lawsuits to happen. I'm also looking at being a plaintiff in at least ONE of them.

[Schuetzenman]

What's worse is that the California Senate passed a bill NOT LISTED amongst the gun control measure. It specifically EXEMPTS California politicians THEMSELVES from any of the gun control measures they are passing for the general population.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/6/one-law-for-us-another-for-you/

The New Royalty is always above you surfs. Bow down and kiss their rings peasant! They have no fear of punishment for shitting on your rights to impose their special kind of tyranny. They have the money to fight law suits from uppity serfs like you. They have the tax money collected from the surfs of Commiefornia. They will use it against your kind and nothing favorable will happen for gun owners.

[imanaknut]

I thought is was against the constitution for any person of elected office to be unaffected by a law they pass upon the people. Not to mention illegal confiscation without due process or payment for goods confiscated. Not to mention violations of shall not be infringed...

[Helen Keller]

zero compliance

[Schuetzenman]

I thought is was against the constitution for any person of elected office to be unaffected by a law they pass upon the people. Not to mention illegal confiscation without due process or payment for goods confiscated. Not to mention violations of shall not be infringed...

The US Constitution does not apply to Commiefornia. The people there have been removed from the Nation.

[5.56NATO]

The US Constitution does not apply to Commiefornia. The people there have been removed from the Nation.

Perhaps President Trump will build a wall?

[tank_monkey]

Perhaps President Trump will build a wall?

Unfortunately, sealing us off and dumping us into the ocean is not very forward thinking.

California provides HALF (that's 50% guys) of the food grown in the entire U.S. Imagine losing half of the domestic crops overnight. Your food bills would double. California provides 20% of all milk/dairy production in the U.S. California ranks first in dairy cow inventory and fourth in total U.S. cattle inventory.

GUN owners: Despite being a blue state libtard stronghold, a sizeable chunk of the state is RED state. And it's huge population means that even a smaller percentage of gun owners is a large number. California Dept of Justice estimates over 8 Million Gun owners (of all types) in the state. That means that GUN owning adults in Commiefornia still outnumber the ENTIRE populations of Washington, Massachusetts, Arizona, Indiana, Tennessee, Missouri, Maryland, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Colorado, Alabama, South Carolina, Louisiana, Kentucky, Oregon, Oklahoma, Connecticut, Iowa, Arkansas, Mississippi, Utah, Kansas, Nevada, New Mexico, Nebraska, West Virginia, Idaho, Hawaii, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont, and Wyoming

Also DOJ estimates that ASSAULT WEAPON owners (of course the definition changes all the time) in Commiefornia still outnumber the entire populations of New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont, and Wyoming. So even if those states enjoy gun freedoms more than we do (which is not hard) we still have more 'assault weapon' owners than every man, woman and child in these states. Not something to sneeze at.

California provides the MOST tax revenue to the Federal government, more than any other state (including Texas and New York).

All of the high tech devices you're using right now to access the internet, including the gateways are from California. If we go, the internet goes with us.......

I always say, dumping this state or letting it secede is a silly idea, a funny meme or joke sure, but in reality it would never happen. All the factors that made California the 8th largest economy in the world if it were it's own country are what keeps it important to the USA. It's a very valuable piece of real estate that the liberals have taken over. I say stay and fight.

[imanaknut]

And sorry to say that voting is meaningless in commiefornia.

Could you imagine if every single gun owner actually voted? I often wonder what the percentage of gun owners actually vote in the Golden State? One percent?

"After all, I only hunt with shotguns and bolt action rifles. Why should I worry about semi-auto assault weapons?"

And when they come for your's Mr, Mrs, Miss, and other gun owners, then what will you do???

[alismith]

Our Founding Fathers have provided us with a solution to this and other wrongs:

"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

The Declaration of Independence.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

[tank_monkey]

And sorry to say that voting is meaningless in commiefornia.

Could you imagine if every single gun owner actually voted? I often wonder what the percentage of gun owners actually vote in the Golden State? One percent?

"After all, I only hunt with shotguns and bolt action rifles. Why should I worry about semi-auto assault weapons?"

And when they come for your's Mr, Mrs, Miss, and other gun owners, then what will you do???

We do vote. But they have the advantage in numbers. THAT'S why places like San Francisco keep putting out the red carpet for Gays, why Los Angeles and San Jose keep putting out the red carpet for illegals from Mexico. They're intentionally stacking the deck with a demographic that tends to block vote Democrat.

I keep on warning folks. It's not like California is 100% blue state libtard. True blue state left leaning voters are a solid 46%. The red state voters of California are at a permanent 42% or lower. All you need is a majority to win all the districts and win all the props. It's not like we don't exist or don't vote, but we LOSE because they have MORE people. You guys in all the others states, have to be careful on how your BIG CITIES are turning libtard blue. Liberals tend to congregate in big cities and overrun the state legislatures...... New York state is held hostage by the LEFT leaning voters of NYC.

[FunkyPertwee]

Unfortunately, sealing us off and dumping us into the ocean is not very forward thinking.

California provides HALF (that's 50% guys) of the food grown in the entire U.S. Imagine losing half of the domestic crops overnight. Your food bills would double. California provides 20% of all milk/dairy production in the U.S. California ranks first in dairy cow inventory and fourth in total U.S. cattle inventory.

Who says we have to cut off trade? Besides Donald Trump I mean.... :lool:


GUN owners: Despite being a blue state libtard stronghold, a sizeable chunk of the state is RED state. And it's huge population means that even a smaller percentage of gun owners is a large number. California Dept of Justice estimates over 8 Million Gun owners (of all types) in the state. That means that GUN owning adults in Commiefornia still outnumber the ENTIRE populations of Washington, Massachusetts, Arizona, Indiana, Tennessee, Missouri, Maryland, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Colorado, Alabama, South Carolina, Louisiana, Kentucky, Oregon, Oklahoma, Connecticut, Iowa, Arkansas, Mississippi, Utah, Kansas, Nevada, New Mexico, Nebraska, West Virginia, Idaho, Hawaii, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont, and Wyoming

Also DOJ estimates that ASSAULT WEAPON owners (of course the definition changes all the time) in Commiefornia still outnumber the entire populations of New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont, and Wyoming. So even if those states enjoy gun freedoms more than we do (which is not hard) we still have more 'assault weapon' owners than every man, woman and child in these states. Not something to sneeze at.

Why the hell do y'all need our help then?


California provides the MOST tax revenue to the Federal government, more than any other state (including Texas and New York).

Taxation is theft.


All of the high tech devices you're using right now to access the internet, including the gateways are from California. If we go, the internet goes with us.......

"Who says we have to cut off trade? Besides Donald Trump I mean.... :lool:"


I always say, dumping this state or letting it secede is a silly idea, a funny meme or joke sure, but in reality it would never happen. All the factors that made California the 8th largest economy in the world if it were it's own country are what keeps it important to the USA. It's a very valuable piece of real estate that the liberals have taken over. I say stay and fight.

I think all fifty states should secede and simply agree to not impose tariffs or restrictions on labor movement. :D

[tank_monkey]

Why the hell do y'all need our help then?

I didn't say that we needed YOUR help. You don't live here, thus you can't help us with Votes. I was just pointing out that saying 'FUCK YOU" to all of California is insulting the millions of people who are on YOUR side.

[FunkyPertwee]

I didn't say that we needed YOUR help. You don't live here, thus you can't help us with Votes. I was just pointing out that saying 'FUCK YOU" to all of California is insulting the millions of people who are on YOUR side.


Ah. Well in that case, fuck you!

Just kidding. :D

But in all seriousness, taxation is theft.

[5.56NATO]

Unfortunately, sealing us off and dumping us into the ocean is not very forward thinking.

California provides HALF (that's 50% guys) of the food grown in the entire U.S. Imagine losing half of the domestic crops overnight. Your food bills would double. California provides 20% of all milk/dairy production in the U.S. California ranks first in dairy cow inventory and fourth in total U.S. cattle inventory.

GUN owners: Despite being a blue state libtard stronghold, a sizeable chunk of the state is RED state. And it's huge population means that even a smaller percentage of gun owners is a large number. California Dept of Justice estimates over 8 Million Gun owners (of all types) in the state. That means that GUN owning adults in Commiefornia still outnumber the ENTIRE populations of Washington, Massachusetts, Arizona, Indiana, Tennessee, Missouri, Maryland, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Colorado, Alabama, South Carolina, Louisiana, Kentucky, Oregon, Oklahoma, Connecticut, Iowa, Arkansas, Mississippi, Utah, Kansas, Nevada, New Mexico, Nebraska, West Virginia, Idaho, Hawaii, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont, and Wyoming

Also DOJ estimates that ASSAULT WEAPON owners (of course the definition changes all the time) in Commiefornia still outnumber the entire populations of New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont, and Wyoming. So even if those states enjoy gun freedoms more than we do (which is not hard) we still have more 'assault weapon' owners than every man, woman and child in these states. Not something to sneeze at.

California provides the MOST tax revenue to the Federal government, more than any other state (including Texas and New York).

All of the high tech devices you're using right now to access the internet, including the gateways are from California. If we go, the internet goes with us.......

I always say, dumping this state or letting it secede is a silly idea, a funny meme or joke sure, but in reality it would never happen. All the factors that made California the 8th largest economy in the world if it were it's own country are what keeps it important to the USA. It's a very valuable piece of real estate that the liberals have taken over. I say stay and fight.


Perhaps the next big quake will break it off the mainland and it can float away into international waters?

[tank_monkey]

Perhaps the next big quake will break it off the mainland and it can float away into international waters?

LOL. I actually hope that there is a quake which separates all the BLUE parts and makes THEM sink into the ocean, leaving a whole bunch of new coastline in the red state areas of California.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r84/Coolweather762/Politico/Red-blue-state_zps3apzarlk.jpg

[O.S.O.K.]

Well, the fact this sucks for Kalifornia aside, I wonder how much a newly manufactured SKS following original specs (sans bayo attachments) would cost to produce? If they could be held under $600 MSRP I would think they'd sell like hot cakes in Kali. I mean, the SKS is a dang good fighting carbine and is quick to load with stripper clips as we all know. I'd include 10 clips and a sling with each...

That'd piss off the anti's.

Or did they ban the SKS too?

[sevlex]

You Can Already Buy a Kit to Circumvent California's Brand-New 'Assault Weapon' Law (http://reason.com/blog/2016/07/07/you-can-already-buy-a-kit-that-circumven)

[sevlex]

LOL. I actually hope that there is a quake which separates all the BLUE parts and makes THEM sink into the ocean, leaving a whole bunch of new coastline in the red state areas of California.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r84/Coolweather762/Politico/Red-blue-state_zps3apzarlk.jpg


The bad news is if there is a "Hammer of God" earthquake the coastal regions will not float out to sea.

The good news is the coastal regions will, instead, be dragged along with the pacific plate down into the earth under the red portion.

[Krupski]

One, there are a TON of court cases waiting to SUE the state because of these laws. The most wide spread is the confiscation of legally owned high caps. That's a FIFTH Amendment violation. Some gun collectors have thousands of dollars worth of RARE magazines, many for guns which are not made any more or not imported any more. It's dangerous because the Liberal Democrats are on a rampage. They're trying to push as much left wing shit through before Obama leaves office. They really think that trump may win or that Hillary isn't as liberal as Obama was (both of which are true).

I'm waiting for the lawsuits to happen. I'm also looking at being a plaintiff in at least ONE of them.


Be careful. You sue and then they know what you have (or at least that you have "something" on their list).

Hopefully it will be a class-action suit. In the mean time, just do like New York and Connecticut gun owners have done... DO NOT COMPLY.

[Krupski]

The New Royalty is always above you surfs. Bow down and kiss their rings peasant! They have no fear of punishment for shitting on your rights to impose their special kind of tyranny. They have the money to fight law suits from uppity serfs like you. They have the tax money collected from the surfs of Commiefornia. They will use it against your kind and nothing favorable will happen for gun owners.


"They" can fight lawsuits, but there's not much they can do about 100+ grains of angry copper jacketed lead flying towards them at Mach 3.......

[Krupski]

zero compliance


^^^^^^^this

[Krupski]

I thought is was against the constitution for any person of elected office to be unaffected by a law they pass upon the people. Not to mention illegal confiscation without due process or payment for goods confiscated. Not to mention violations of shall not be infringed...



Even if they offered to pay for a confiscated item, who decides the amount of payment?

Lots of weapons are customized, modified or have sentimental value.

What are they going to say? "An AR-15 values at $800, since it's used it's only worth $400. That Geissele trigger? Nobody told you to buy that. That M68 red dot sight? Nobody told you to buy that either. The custom handguards? Your problem, not ours. $400, take it and be happy".

Yeah, right.

[Krupski]

Unfortunately, sealing us off and dumping us into the ocean is not very forward thinking.

California is a beautiful state. The only problem is that it's run by fruits and nuts.

The solution to the problem is to dump the POLITICIANS into the ocean, not the people.

[Krupski]

And sorry to say that voting is meaningless in commiefornia.

Could you imagine if every single gun owner actually voted? I often wonder what the percentage of gun owners actually vote in the Golden State? One percent?

"After all, I only hunt with shotguns and bolt action rifles. Why should I worry about semi-auto assault weapons?"

And when they come for your's Mr, Mrs, Miss, and other gun owners, then what will you do???



Voting in New York is also useless. Although New York is mostly rural "red state", a few on the large cities (especially NY city) concentrate most of the population. Also, NYC is filled with liberals.

So, even though NY is basically a red state, the large majority of "blue state liberals" in NYC carry the vote and.... here we are.

[alismith]

California is a beautiful state. The only problem is that it's run by fruits and nuts.

The solution to the problem is to dump the POLITICIANS into the ocean, not the people.

Don't forget the people who elected, and keep electing them over and over again. Leaving them on dry land will only cause a continuation of the same problem.

[Krupski]

You Can Already Buy a Kit to Circumvent California's Brand-New 'Assault Weapon' Law (http://reason.com/blog/2016/07/07/you-can-already-buy-a-kit-that-circumven)



Tell me WHY THE FUCK law abiding, peaceful gun owners in California should, yet again, have to spend more time and money to "circumvent" a law that accomplishes nothing?

On YouTube, there are already videos of people castrating their AR-15 rifies with pseudo-thumbhole stocks without a pistol grip, proudly stating that now their rifles are "California legal".

So they changed the stock and removed the pistol grip. Absolutely NOTHING from the magwell forward has been changed. The rifle still fires a 55 grain projectile at 3200 FPS. It can kill exactly like it did before.

The only purpose of the new laws is to restrict peaceful law abiding citizens. The laws will do NOTHING to the criminals, who will not even bother to make their rifles "compliant".

An ordinary gun owner will never pull the trigger in a criminal manner, before or after the law. The rifle is inanimate. The PERSON is who decides to be a criminal or not. And, no "law" will change that.

This kind of bullshit deserves only one response: 100 percent NON COMPLIANCE.

[Krupski]

Don't forget the people who elected, and keep electing them over and over again. Leaving them on dry land will only cause a continuation of the same problem.


Let The Donald build a huge wall around them. Kinda like a ghetto.

[tank_monkey]

California is a beautiful state. The only problem is that it's run by fruits and nuts.

The solution to the problem is to dump the POLITICIANS into the ocean, not the people.

There is some weird TOXIC goings on at the state Capitol. One of the big newspapers of the state, the San Jose Mercury News once had an article outlining how the LEGISLATURE veered FAR to the left of the average California voter. Seriously, they were totally disconnected with their constituency. They RUN as moderates and voila! They morph instantly into raving LEFTWING lunatics once they're in office. There must be some sort of blackmail or Liberal brainwashing device that instant turns them stupid once they're in office.

Also the fact that all the local media, the internet streaming news feeds, the newspapers, the TV news are all slanted LEFTWING, I can see how people can be totally blind to the truth. Sad that you have to actively hunt down the truth. Most folks just don't realize that is happening.....

[alismith]

Tell me WHY THE FUCK law abiding, peaceful gun owners in California should, yet again, have to spend more time and money to "circumvent" a law that accomplishes nothing?

On YouTube, there are already videos of people castrating their AR-15 rifies with pseudo-thumbhole stocks without a pistol grip, proudly stating that now their rifles are "California legal".

So they changed the stock and removed the pistol grip. Absolutely NOTHING from the magwell forward has been changed. The rifle still fires a 55 grain projectile at 3200 FPS. It can kill exactly like it did before.

The only purpose of the new laws is to restrict peaceful law abiding citizens. The laws will do NOTHING to the criminals, who will not even bother to make their rifles "compliant".

An ordinary gun owner will never pull the trigger in a criminal manner, before or after the law. The rifle is inanimate. The PERSON is who decides to be a criminal or not. And, no "law" will change that.

This kind of bullshit deserves only one response: 100 percent NON COMPLIANCE.

Your argument, which is based on accountability of the law abiding gun owner, will make no sense to a liberal. They minds are incapable of understanding truth and common sense.