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awp101
11-21-2010, 09:05 AM
This was on another forum:

Sometimes you're in the right place at the right time. A few weeks ago a little Winchester Model 1892 saddle ring carbine caught my eye in a local shop. I might add that I have never been real enthusiastic about carbines, most of my leverguns are full length rifles, including my old 1892. But this one caught my eye. It had clearly been refinished, but it was a pretty good job, no glaring over polishing or terrible dishing of screws. And the price was right too. I just wasn't sure how old it was. I jotted down the SN and went home to look it up. Turns out it was made in 1919.

I was there first thing the next morning. Didn't even haggle over the price, it was on consignment anyway and it would have been a hassle.

Here is a photo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Driftwood_Johnson/Winchester/92carbine.jpg

When I got it home, I noticed an odd marking on the left side of the frame. It almost looks like an acceptance stamp from someplace, by I am not familiar with it. That's the point of this post, can anybody identify this marking?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Driftwood_Johnson/Winchester/92carbinestrangemarking.jpg

I also noticed another interesting mark when I opened lever on the underside of the tang. I am assuming this is where Winchester originally shipped the gun. Watertown Mass is not far from where I live, it is a suburb of Boston. The stamp looks professionally done, I am assuming it was done at the factory. I know back in 1919 you could regularly buy guns in hardware stores and many other places. I just have not been able to find any reference to a company called Northeast Inc that might have been selling guns in 1919.

Any ideas?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Driftwood_Johnson/Winchester/marking.jpg

Thanks

P.S. The bore is spotless. Almost looks like it just left the factory. And it shoots like a champ, both with Smokeless and Black Powder. I slugged the bore and it comes out to .428. I am real pleased. This little baby is gonna come along to some CAS matches and make my Henry jealous.

What we've established so far is it left the US and was re-imported post-68. While the mark looks similar to the British Broad Arrow, it's not. Nor does it match any Dominion stamps I can find.

Someone mentioned seeing the marking on rifles imported from South America. Since .44 WCF (.44-40) Winchesters were popular south of the border, that makes sense but I don't have a list of SA acceptance marks.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Thanks!:thumbsup:

Richard Simmons
11-21-2010, 09:53 AM
That "acceptance" mark looks more like it was scratched on than stamped.

FunkyPertwee
11-21-2010, 12:46 PM
Thats a great looking gun. Makes me want a 92 even more.

Gunreference1
11-21-2010, 12:52 PM
That "acceptance" mark looks more like it was scratched on than stamped.

I would agree with Richard, the marking on the receiver appears to be applied by hand. Compare it to the markings on the lower tang or barrel. Those are machine stamped into the metal. awp101, I would recommend contacting the people at RareWinchesters.com (http://www.rarewinchesters.com/index.shtml) to see if they have any insight on your 1892. Nice rifle!

Steve

O.S.O.K.
11-21-2010, 12:53 PM
Looks like a ranch mark but then there's the import stamp.... hmmm driving them crazy on leverguns huh?