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63DH8
11-24-2010, 01:42 AM
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/rok/2010/rok-101123-rianovosti01.htm

South Korea vows 'enormous retaliation' against North's attack

RIA Novosti

19:18 23/11/2010

SEOUL, November 23 (RIA Novosti) - South Korean President Lee Myung-bak on Tuesday ordered to punish North Korea's shelling of one of the South's border islands "through action," in a bid to prevent further provocation.

"Enormous retaliation is going to be necessary to make North Korea incapable of provoking us again," the South's Yonhap news agency quoted South Korean President Lee Myung-bak as saying in the headquarters of the country's joint chief of staff in Seoul.

North Korea opened artillery fire on the South's Yeonpyeong Island in the Yellow Sea at 14:34 local time (05:34 GMT) on Tuesday, killing at least two South Korean marines. Sixteen others were injured, along with 3 civilians.

The South immediately fired back.

Pyongyang accused Seoul of striking first. The South said it had been conducting military exercises but artillery fire was not directed at the North.

"The provocation this time can be regarded as an invasion of South Korean territory. In particular, indiscriminate attacks on civilians are a grave matter," the South's president said.

"Reckless attacks on South Korean civilians are not tolerable, especially when South Korea is providing North Korea with humanitarian aid," Lee went on.

He said a military response is necessary. "Our military should show this through action," he added.

"Given that North Korea maintains an offensive posture, I think the Army, the Navy and the Air Force should unite and retaliate against [the North's] provocation with multiple-fold firepower," Lee said.

INTERNATIONAL CONDEMNATION

Western powers have condemned the attack but warned against further escalation.

United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said it was "one of the gravest incidents since the end of the Korean War" more than half a century ago. He said he was "deeply concerned" by the incident and called for "immediate restraint."

Russia called on both Koreas to refrain from the use of force.

"Russia firmly condemns any show of force...all disputes should be settled by exclusively political-diplomatic means," the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

It also urged both sides to "show restraint and not permit actions that could lead to the escalation of the military conflict on the Korean peninsula."

NORTH CLAIMS SELF-DEFENSE

However, North Korea claimed its forces had responded to a South Korean attack, the North Korean Central News Agency said.

"Despite our persistent warnings, South Korea fired dozens of shells from 1 pm local time [04:00 GMT] and we immediately retaliated with military force," the agency said.

A spokesman for the South's joint chief of staff said "scores of rounds" were fired by the North. South Korean military retaliated by firing some 80 artillery rounds, Yonhap said.

Tuesday's exchange of fire came amid South Korea's drills.

"Our army was carrying out military training, and there was a telegram from North Korea with a protest and questioning whether this was an attack," Yonhap quoted the spokesman as saying.

He did not rule out that the North's shelling was a response to the drills.

TENSIONS RISE

The South Korean military is on its highest non-war alert and the Air Force has deployed fighter jets to the island.

Yonhap said Seoul was considering the evacuation of its nationals currently in North Korea.

The attack is the second incident in the tense Yellow Sea border area this year. In March, a North Korean submarine was alleged to have torpedoed a South Korean naval ship, the Cheonan, causing the loss of 46 lives. An international investigation said the North was to blame, but the reclusive regime denied involvement.

North and South Korea remain technically at war, since no peace treaty was signed following the Korean War in 1953. The Demilitarized Zone between the countries is the most heavily armed border in the world.

The latest attack comes after the revelation that the North has created a new uranium enrichment facility.

Despite the development, South Korea will not seek the return of U.S. tactical nuclear missiles over fears that the move could scupper international efforts to persuade North Korea to halt its nuclear program, the South Korean deputy defense minister said Chang Kwang-il.

chiak47
11-24-2010, 05:16 AM
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U.S. President Barack Obama (right) is briefed on the situation on the Korean Peninsula in the White House Situation Room in Washington on Tuesday. (Reuters-Yonhap News)

mriddick
11-24-2010, 05:38 AM
The south will wait out the NK's, it's their policy and I bet they will stick to it.

However the reaction of our President is more telling. Remember in the election clinton running the 3AM phone call ad? Supposedly something goes wrong in the world and the President gets that 3AM call that only the President can deal with.... Well obama got that call over this at 3:55 and he put them on hold.

Oswald Bastable
11-24-2010, 05:46 AM
The south will wait out the NK's, it's their policy and I bet they will stick to it.

However the reaction of our President is more telling. Remember in the election clinton running the 3AM phone call ad? Supposedly something goes wrong in the world and the President gets that 3AM call that only the President can deal with.... Well obama got that call over this at 3:55 and he put them on hold.

No doubt he should have called you and made you his primary advisor on all this. After all, you do know best...just ask you.

HDR
11-24-2010, 06:32 AM
0bama is indecisive, inexperienced and weak; NK knows it which makes the situation worse. Tyrants do not respect weakness.

mriddick
11-24-2010, 06:35 AM
0bama is indecisive, inexperienced and weak; NK knows it which makes the situation worse. Tyrants do not respect weakness.

If the story is correct about the 3AM phone call I'd say he failed his first test...

Ruskiegunlover
11-24-2010, 08:03 AM
yeah, be real interesting to see how he responds or fails to respond to this.....

mriddick
11-24-2010, 08:12 AM
I would bet anything he's pushing for something nonretalitory in nature, maybe send a carrier group into the area or do a practice landing with the ROK army on the island as a show of force (farce?). IMO obama in all this is already a lost cause, what I wonder is what the South Koreans will do. As I've stated their policy has been one of waiting out the NK's but surely they can't keep taking these hits, in one year we've had a ship sunk with 46(?) sailors lost and now this. At some point it's going to give, who know maybe even China will see it's in their best interest to step in and do something.

sevlex
11-24-2010, 10:19 AM
I worry the the Bamster may try to overcompensate for his weakness and make things even worse. It seems the laziest pacifists can turn into the most dangerous hawks just to show everyone how tough they are.

:coffee:

Dr. Gonzo GED
11-24-2010, 12:34 PM
I worry the the Bamster may try to overcompensate for his weakness and make things even worse. It seems the laziest pacifists can turn into the most dangerous hawks just to show everyone how tough they are.

:coffee:
A dangerous hawk is what we need right now. Or at least a pair of balls.

matshock
11-24-2010, 12:40 PM
The south will wait out the NK's, it's their policy and I bet they will stick to it.

However the reaction of our President is more telling. Remember in the election clinton running the 3AM phone call ad? Supposedly something goes wrong in the world and the President gets that 3AM call that only the President can deal with.... Well obama got that call over this at 3:55 and he put them on hold.

Probably- the ROK has become a UN-boot licking country over the years. They may spontaineously grow a pair however- Japan has become quite a bit more agressive in their attitude toward China and the norks lately.

Arnulf
11-24-2010, 12:41 PM
South Korea vows 'enormous retaliation' against North's attack

Bring our troops home and let the gooks butcher each other....the whole of korea is not worth one American soldiers life.imo

yankeedog
11-24-2010, 01:21 PM
"Enormous retaliation is going to be necessary to make North Korea incapable of provoking us again,
Then do it and shut up!!

Uncle Scary
11-24-2010, 01:47 PM
Despite the development, South Korea will not seek the return of U.S. tactical nuclear missiles over fears that the move could scupper international efforts to persuade North Korea to halt its nuclear program.

Doesn't matter that we don't have tactical nuclear missiles on S. Korean soil. As long as there are aircraft carriers or even a Los Angeles Class sub in the area, the U.S. has a nuclear presence. North Korea and Bejing should understand this.

AK_Apostle
11-24-2010, 11:01 PM
Then do it and shut up!!

Hear Him! Hear Him! Just the usual saber-rattling to save face.

tank_monkey
11-24-2010, 11:17 PM
Bring our troops home and let the gooks butcher each other....the whole of korea is not worth one American soldiers life.imo
Hmmmm. I can see why Arnulf has no friends. Cuz America would have NO FRIENDS if we never supported them against a common enemy ..... :D

tank_monkey
11-24-2010, 11:18 PM
China and the norks lately.

The R.O.K. USED to be ass kickers. Remember how the VC feared the ROKS in the early days of Nam? :D But everyone (except for us and the Brits) seem to be getting soft recently.

BTW, i love the terms NORKS for the North Koreans. Sounds like Orcs. How Appropriate! :D

NATIONALIST
11-24-2010, 11:46 PM
0bama is indecisive, inexperienced and weak; NK knows it which makes the situation worse. Tyrants do not respect weakness.

this!

Uncle Scary
11-25-2010, 12:13 AM
Hmmmm. I can see why Arnulf has no friends. Cuz America would have NO FRIENDS if we never supported them against a common enemy ..... :D

South Korea has an active force of 655,000 in uniform. And yet, they have only 232 troops in Afghanistan. Let's see how they would fend off North Korea if our level of commitment matched theirs.

tank_monkey
11-25-2010, 12:27 AM
South Korea has an active force of 655,000 in uniform. And yet, they have only 232 troops in Afghanistan. Let's see how they would fend off North Korea if our level of commitment matched theirs.

Yes, BUT....... their massive number is designed to stave off an invasion by the North. Not quite the same thing. If North Korea did NOT exist, the SK military would be way smaller than it is now.

matshock
11-25-2010, 02:05 AM
Yep, expeditionary forces are on a whole other plane of expensive/complex than a home defense force.

1 Patriot-of-many
11-25-2010, 01:31 PM
I think we should give S. Korea a few nuclear tipped missiles and let them take care of N. Korea.