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Arnulf
11-30-2010, 07:26 PM
Imagine how powerful these creatures are....hits a hog and sends it flying. :eek:


Hog hunter watches bigfoot kill hog in Sabine River bottoms.

YEAR: 2004

SEASON: Spring

MONTH: April

DATE: 3rd

STATE: Texas

COUNTY: Panola County

LOCATION DETAILS: In the Sabine River bottoms.

OBSERVED: I was hog hunting from a tree stand next to the Sabine River. I had gone to my stand around 5:30 AM, put out sliced apples and table scraps to hold the hogs for a few minutes for a shot. I got in my tree stand and waited for the woods to settle down and the sun to rise. At sunup, I heard hogs rooting around, working the river's edge towards me. I could first see them to my left at about 45 degrees, about 50 yards out. No clear shot, waiting for them to get to my bait area, I noticed movement to my right about 80 yards out. Putting my rifle scope on it, I could see only the side of something's face. It was dark, hair covered and slowly moving its head around looking in the direction of the hogs. At this time it quickly moved to another tree. I could see most of its body, it was huge, standing on two legs, slowly looking around the tree at the hogs. At this time I was quite afraid but tried to keep my scope on it study its features. The hogs were still feeding towards my bait area and the animal was working towards the hogs. It moved quickly and disappeared. It quickly reappeared moving to another tree, still looking at the hogs. I could again study its features. At this time I was quite afraid but tried to keep my scope on it. Its movement from tree to tree was a quick leap, landing at the base of next tree on two feet. Standing behind tree and slowly looking around at the hogs. This continued for several minutes until they were about 30 yards apart and almost directly in front of me at about 40 yards. The animal dropped to all fours, bunched up its rear legs and leaped. It took two leaps to reach the hogs and it screamed during the second leap causing the hogs to panic for a split second. The second leap ended with it slapping one hog in its side, knocking it through the air into side of a tree. As the squealing hog bounced off the tree, it pounced on it, beating it with its fist like a person pounding on a desk. I could hear bones crunching with each hit. All this happened very fast. About 4 seconds from first leap to dead hog. The quickness of attack was very unnerving. The three live hogs were in full flight. The animal picked up the dead hog, tucked it under its arm and started walking off and let out a noise like (Grrrrrrrrrrr, whoop, whoop, whooooooop, whoop). It was immediately answered from about 200 to 300 yards out by a shorter (whoop, whoop, whoop ). After a couple more steps in the direction of the answer, it stopped, dropped the hog and turned to look past me. It turned back to my tree and raised its head to look at me. I have never been more afraid in my life. I tried to keep the scope on its head in case it came after me. It looked at me, cocked its head to one side. Its face had a curious expression as if studying me. It opened its mouth showing its teeth, letting out a soft (rrrrrrrrrr) sound. It then turned back to pick up the hog and walked off in no hurry as if I didn't exist.

I was looking thru a 3 X 9 scope. Originally set on 3 power for the hunt but turned it up to 9 power after first trying to see object approaching from my right. After that time I was afraid to make the movement necessary to take scope off 9 power.

I sat in tree stand for another 30 minutes or so, trying to calm myself. After concluding that if it wanted me, it would have already slapped me out of my tree stand. I got down and went to find my hunting partner, who was about a quarter to half mile away. He had heard the attack scream and both whooping calls.

ALSO NOTICED: It was 7 or 8 feet tall, standing like human on two legs, covered in hair and intensely watching the hogs. Its hands and feet looked human. It had breasts. Its ears seemed small for the size of its head. Very tall, very heavily built, female, similar to most bigfoot pictures/drawings that one sees. Face was human like. Thick coat of hair, reddish brown, covering most of its body except hands, feet, half of face. Solid brown eyes.

OTHER STORIES: Over the years, many unseen, unknown screams.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: 6:30 am, clear.

ENVIRONMENT: Swampy, old hardwood bottom land. Farms nearby. Location was in swampy flood plain next to Sabine River.

Follow-up investigation report:


I have spoken with the witness on several occasions regarding this report as he saw it for a longer time than most people and I had many questions. I found him to be a very credible witness with quick answers to my questions and all the facts are the same when I re-questioned him on some points. Since neither of us can draw pictures, I showed him a picture from the website, and asked him for a comparison:

"Only the size and height are correct. The hands were different, more like ours, only the thumb was set back further on the hand. It had finger nails, NOT claws. Yellowish in color. The hair was lighter, more of a reddish brown. The eyes had no white. They were solid dark brown. It was a female. It had breasts, only the nipple area was hairless. The feet had five toes, set wide apart with long toe nails, also yellowish. It walked away with a stoop shouldered gait when it walked off. Its arms and legs were much larger, bulkier. Its hair was shorter, about 3 inches long, just enough to flap when it moved. It had no waist line, waist was same large bulk as upper body. It had flat teeth like a human, NO FANGS. Face was human looking, it showed expression while looking at me. All the other views were to the animals side except I had back view before it disappeared walking off.

It was a female. It had breasts, only the nipple area was hairless. The hair on its breasts was much shorter and thinner that rest of body. Comparing breasts to those depicted in the Patterson film: they were not that large, they did not swing when it moved.

Its hair was shorter, about 3 inches long, just enough to flap when it moved. There were a few leaves, twigs and debris tangled in the hair as if it had rolled or slept on the ground.

Its large size combined with its incredible speed made it frightening.

It made no sound while stalking the hogs. There was no odor. The woods had normal noise while it was stalking hogs. Squirrels were feeding, paying no attention to hogs or animal. Birds, frogs, crickets, everything making normal noises. After attack scream, all woods noise ceased, no sound of any kind except from animal and its answering call. Most of the time it would use its hands to steady itself when looking around tree.

Hogs were all small, in the 100 to 125 pound range. It carried the hog under its arm much as a person would carry a sack of potatoes. When it crouched down on all fours, it curled its fingers and had its knuckles on the ground."

Additional investigator comments, 1 May 2004:

The site was located while motor boating to his normal hunting area. The witness noticed sign of hogs rooting along river's edge and stopped to check it out. The witness decided it was a better place to try, scouted the area, decided on stand locations and returned the next morning to set up
and hunt.

Tree stand height was about twenty five feet. Witness was wearing camo plus a mesquito head net.

Length of encounter is an estimate of twenty minutes. It was not timed. Bear in mind that the witness's adrenalin was up, his fear factor was up and in such cases time sometimes does get compressed.

The attack leaps: distance was about thirty yards. Fifteen yards per leap. This was on all fours.

The movement from tree to tree: all tree to tree movements were two legged jumps, landing on two feet, anywhere from five to ten feet. Each movement going closer to the feeding hogs. Each movement animal was holding its body very still, slowing moving sideways just enough to look around the
tree. All those movements, and landings were totally silent.


The witness said the first set of whoops were similar to Sierra Sounds but not quite the same, and was really not able to explain the difference. The second set of whoops had a garbled sound at the end of each whoop, there was no
garbled sound. The third set of whoops was way different. Bear in mind that this happened just seconds after the unexpected quick kill of the hog. The witness was very unnerved at that time.

Footprints and evidence: After finding hunting partner, they returned together to site to retrieve tree stand and found disturbed ground where it leaped both times and disturbed ground at the kill site plus a small amount of blood that apparently came from hogs mouth. Ground was covered in normal damp leaves and such, there were no footprints.

O.S.O.K.
12-27-2010, 05:33 PM
All of these hunters that see bigfoot and not one shoots the mutherfuckers? Tell me a head-shot is going to bounce off...

I'll believe that they exist when I see the carcas. And not some BS mask and elk bones frozen solid in a chest freezer. ;)

old Grump
12-27-2010, 06:35 PM
Don't shoot dammit don't shoot, it's just me gathering my groceries.

HDR
12-28-2010, 02:13 PM
All of these hunters that see bigfoot and not one shoots the mutherfuckers?

More amazing is none of them take a picture.

Let's say you were hiking and only had a pistol. Wouldn't you hike back to your vehicle and go buy a camera then hike back and take pictures of the site? Unless the ground was rock there would be tracks. If Bigfoot carried the carcass away there would be blood at the kill site and bones where stopped to eat. There would be teeth marks in the carcass. Forensics could tell a lot by the teeth marks.

But nope...


I have spoken with the witness on several occasions regarding this report as he saw it for a longer time than most people and I had many questions. I found him to be a very credible witness with quick answers to my questions and all the facts are the same when I re-questioned him on some points. Since neither of us can draw pictures, I showed him a picture from the website, and asked him for a comparison:But never went to the site?? LOL


Tell me a head-shot is going to bounce off...


Heads move a lot.

Arnulf
12-30-2010, 12:22 PM
All of these hunters that see bigfoot and not one shoots the mutherfuckers? Tell me a head-shot is going to bounce off...

I'll believe that they exist when I see the carcas. And not some BS mask and elk bones frozen solid in a chest freezer. ;)

They exist....I have had 2 maybe 3 close up encounters.

btcave
12-30-2010, 12:36 PM
They exist....I have had 2 maybe 3 close up encounters.

Start carrying a camera, would ya?

Arnulf
12-30-2010, 12:49 PM
Start carrying a camera, would ya?

It was totally unexpected....first time was back in 1976 me and some friends were parked on a country road....one ran out of the woods and smacked the trunk of the car...then ran on across the road into the woods.....2nd time was in 1985 down by the Kalamazoo....3rd time I was in a gravel pit not far from the 85 sighting and it was standing on the rim of the pit above me.

Blacksmith
12-30-2010, 12:51 PM
Start carrying a camera, would ya?

Bigfeets come up from behind. No way to get a picture when they’re bugering you. :freeze:
I’m just glad we don’t have them in AZ.

:runforhills:

ubersoldate
12-30-2010, 01:09 PM
Im not a believer, but damn if this whole town I live in isnt..
All the old timers will beg to differ with me everytime the conversation comes up at the local hardware store.

Ive spent a little time in the back country here in the last three months or so, and I can say, it is remote enough for a mastodon to roam around here and never be found.
But that isnt enough to make me a believer that there are masto's and bigfeets having tea parties in the high country.

When I see one, Ill shoot him. I need the extra money from my book and movie afterwards.

btcave
12-30-2010, 01:27 PM
When I see one, Ill shoot him. I need the extra money from my book and movie afterwards.

I use to think that, but I spent hours reading every submitted big foot report from Oregon, Washington and Northern California at http://www.bfro.net/ and http://www.oregonbigfoot.com/ That was about 500 different reports.

I came to the conclusion that I would risk being torn apart by his buddy hidden from view after shooting it's friend. So... I carry a camera while hunting the deep conifer forest of Oregon. Just in case.

Not a believer, but I never say never.

HDR
12-30-2010, 09:06 PM
Science continues to find extinct animals and fish; there are enough remote areas to hide in; so Bigfoot is possible.

Blacksmith
12-30-2010, 10:43 PM
Science continues to find extinct animals and fish; there are enough remote areas to hide in; so Bigfoot is possible.

I agree it is possible. But as time advances it is becoming more and more unlikely.
All animals leave a trail. From something as obvious as tracks and feces to the more discreet signs such as fur left on a bush or a freshly broken branch. Any hunter that came across those signs would not give up a chance to bag a bigfoot. It would not only be one hell of a payday, he would gain fame and a place in the history books. So either all the hunters in those areas suck big time. or it is a myth.

ubersoldate
12-30-2010, 11:27 PM
I came to the conclusion that I would risk being torn apart by his buddy hidden from view after shooting it's friend. So... I carry a camera while hunting the deep conifer forest of Oregon. Just in case.

I hear ya.
I dont plan on shooting him though, I would use my firearm to get his attention, then its ass kicking time.
Anyone can shoot one, the guy who kills him with a few haymakers, ala van damm style will get the movie roles and big bucks.

Integratedj
12-31-2010, 08:54 PM
I hear ya.
I dont plan on shooting him though, I would use my firearm to get his attention, then its ass kicking time.
Anyone can shoot one, the guy who kills him with a few haymakers, ala van damm style will get the movie roles and big bucks.


Let me know when you're going so I can come videotape that shit. Think of the off shoot dollar potential... Things like "Sasquatch Muay Thai" and "How to Skull-Fuck a Skunk Ape"... The home movie potential alone is worth millions.

I am not a believer in them either. Seriously, some one would have put a couple holes in one by now or at least taken a picture of one. There would be remains found somewhere. I think people just like to tell stories.

btcave
12-31-2010, 09:22 PM
I hear ya.
I dont plan on shooting him though, I would use my firearm to get his attention, then its ass kicking time.
Anyone can shoot one, the guy who kills him with a few haymakers, ala van damm style will get the movie roles and big bucks.

Been done.


Whenever we're in the mood for hard-hitting opinion about the urgent issues of the day, we tune into Countdown With Keith Olbermann. That's where we get caught up on the Gulf oil spill, the crisis in the Middle East ... and Bigfoot!

Yes. Bigfoot.

Olbermann recently reported on Tim Peeler, who claims to have met the mythical Sasquatch in his North Carolina backyard, where he was forced to defend himself by speaking very loudly and carrying a big stick.

Said Peeler of the 10-foot-tall creature: "He had beautiful hair. He looked like he had six fingers on each hand."

For more, check out Olberman's report below.

http://blastr.com/2010/06/man-claims-he-fought-bigf.php


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0waaPsgrdH0&feature=related

ubersoldate
01-01-2011, 01:38 AM
Been done.



http://blastr.com/2010/06/man-claims-he-fought-bigf.php




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0waaPsgrdH0&feature=related

Thats me!

HDR
01-01-2011, 01:18 PM
I agree it is possible. But as time advances it is becoming more and more unlikely.

Actually it becomes no less likely. :D

The area to my south is empty forest and isn't used at all. Fishing is great, the other uses are canoeing, kayaking, and tubing. People sit on a rock to watch the water. I've hiked to the river (it is a creek where I am from) quite a few times and haven't seen people sign until I am ~50 yards from water. So it appears none of them are hikers which means a grizzly could walk through and not been seen.


All animals leave a trail. From something as obvious as tracks and feces to the more discreet signs such as fur left on a bush or a freshly broken branch. Any hunter that came across those signs would not give up a chance to bag a bigfoot. It would not only be one hell of a payday, he would gain fame and a place in the history books. So either all the hunters in those areas suck big time. or it is a myth.

Same as any hiker I can evade hunters so a non-territorial animal could do it easily also. Eric Rudoph hid for a long time.. ;)

This "sighting" states he witnessed a kill and there is always a mess when a large predator kills. Large predators sneak up close then charge; the charge leaves dig mark tracks. If the charge is successful the predator overpowers and kills the animal; more deep tracks by both. Next there's blood all over.

At this point; go buy a camera and extra memory to take lots of pictures. Look up how to make plaster casts online.

So I guess it rained or snowed and washed away the evidence?

lol

Blacksmith
01-01-2011, 02:02 PM
Actually it becomes no less likely. :D

The area to my south is empty forest and isn't used at all. Fishing is great, the other uses are canoeing, kayaking, and tubing. People sit on a rock to watch the water. I've hiked to the river (it is a creek where I am from) quite a few times and haven't seen people sign until I am ~50 yards from water. So it appears none of them are hikers which means a grizzly could walk through and not been seen.



Same as any hiker I can evade hunters so a non-territorial animal could do it easily also. Eric Rudoph hid for a long time.. ;)


One running behind a car and slapping the trunk. or peering down on a guy standing in the bottom of a pit does not sound like they are to worried about hiding. And what about DNA? by now we should have collected some type of concrete proof of their existence.
The only way this animal could exist is in the scenario that you mentioned. And if that’s the case, all the sighting of him confronting people have to be false. I could see how a bow hunter or someone that knows how to control their smell and minimize their movement may be able to catch a glimpse of an elusive animal like that. But at the same time, unless that person was just a raging coward. He would do his best to track and pick up anything that a spectacular animal like that would leave. And that’s not even considering aircraft flying over those remote areas. If the animal is not afraid of a vehicle, why would he hide from an aircraft?
Nothing adds up.

HDR
01-02-2011, 09:54 AM
I wasn't trashing all Bigfoot encounters; just this one. :D

Blacksmith
01-02-2011, 12:38 PM
In reality, all of them are easy to “trash”.
That’s why nobody takes any of them seriously. They are just to easy to disprove. And when key questions are asked of the ones doing the sightings. They either have the deep blank look on their face, play the coward card. Or in the case of the video btcave posted, they play the retard card. As if we are supposed to believe that this bear hunter that lives in the woods would confront an animal that large with a stick. :lool:

HDR
01-02-2011, 07:17 PM
No one has played the take pictures and plaster casts and sell to media card.

Obviously Bigfoot makes no messes when he/she kills. LOL

El Jefe
01-02-2011, 07:33 PM
In reality, all of them are easy to “trash”.
That’s why nobody takes any of them seriously. They are just to easy to disprove. And when key questions are asked of the ones doing the sightings. They either have the deep blank look on their face, play the coward card. Or in the case of the video btcave posted, they play the retard card. As if we are supposed to believe that this bear hunter that lives in the woods would confront an animal that large with a stick. :lool:

Yep, all these supposed sitings and absolutely no believable physical evidence? C'mon.:smiley_freak:

Blacksmith
01-02-2011, 08:10 PM
Yep, all these supposed sitings and absolutely no believable physical evidence? C'mon.:smiley_freak:
Not just the lack of Physical evidence. But the stories are so full of holes.
The guy in the video has bear skins hanging on his wall. and he sure the hell did not get them with a stick. So we can safely assume he has at least one rifle. He also states that after seeing bigfoot. he went back into the front door of the house and came back out the back door. Looking at the size of the house. It is very unlikely that he could of accomplished it without walking right by his rifle. Yet he emerged from the house carrying a stick.
I’m no Sherlock holmes and can see right through him. I can only imagine what a professional investigator could come up with.

HDR
01-03-2011, 10:22 PM
Not just the lack of Physical evidence. But the stories are so full of holes.

Even they should have easily had physical evidence; they don't have it.

The holes speak for themselves.

El Jefe
01-04-2011, 08:20 AM
One thing I can't get past, among many items, is the fact that there are literally millions of trail cameras out there taking pictures of wildlife on a regular basis. Many of these are up for most of the year and are placed in remote locations because that's where the critters are. All that and no one has a pic of a bigfoot. Hell even here in Missouri people have captured pictures of everything from bears to mountain lions and bobcats.

:think:

Blacksmith
01-04-2011, 10:31 AM
:think:
Perhaps Arnulf should strap a trail cam to his head.

El Jefe
01-04-2011, 12:53 PM
:think:
Perhaps Arnulf should strap a trail cam to his head.

Or at least perhaps a cell phone with a camera?

I don't know about anywhere else, because I don't spend great amounts of time in their hinter lands. But here in Missouri, I do spends lots of time in the boonies, in the summer I fish, mainly our many rivers, in the fall & winter I'm in the woods, and I've never seen or heard anything resembling a MoMo or bigfoot. I talk to other guys on a regular basis who are outdoorsmen, and they never mention anything like this either.

I think it would be cool as hell if they existed, but until I see one, I just can't buy in. :)

ubersoldate
01-04-2011, 01:31 PM
The trail cam is the reason I dont believe in bf....
Zillions of them out there, and not ONE, NOT ONEEEEEE pic from a cam?

ATAK, Inc.
01-04-2011, 01:35 PM
I think everyone here is missing the simple explanation.

These are all of Michelle obama's relatives and she is paying big to keep them hidden and buys off anybody with credible evidence!

Blacksmith
01-04-2011, 02:00 PM
Or at least perhaps a cell phone with a camera?

I don't know about anywhere else, because I don't spend great amounts of time in their hinter lands. But here in Missouri, I do spends lots of time in the boonies, in the summer I fish, mainly our many rivers, in the fall & winter I'm in the woods, and I've never seen or heard anything resembling a MoMo or bigfoot. I talk to other guys on a regular basis who are outdoorsmen, and they never mention anything like this either.

I think it would be cool as hell if they existed, but until I see one, I just can't buy in. :)

In AZ everything is real dry. But we have many water holes. Animals have to drink. And none of them like the streams. (The noise from the running water makes it to where they can’t here predators). Because of this reason, when I hunt. I hunt around the water holes. It becomes such a habit to track animals that I can’t help myself but to keep one eye on the ground every time I’m out there. I know I have at least 2 mountain lions in my area and one very large black bear. As well as several Whitetail and Mule dear and a shitload of pigs. but I can more than guarantee that if a creature like Bigfoot was in my neck of the woods. I would have him stuffed and in my living room. After all. there is no season on them. And they are not protected. So they are fair game.

ubersoldate
01-04-2011, 02:42 PM
In AZ everything is real dry. But we have many water holes. Animals have to drink. And none of them like the streams. (The noise from the running water makes it to where they can’t here predators). Because of this reason, when I hunt. I hunt around the water holes. It becomes such a habit to track animals that I can’t help myself but to keep one eye on the ground every time I’m out there. I know I have at least 2 mountain lions in my area and one very large black bear. As well as several Whitetail and Mule dear and a shitload of pigs. but I can more than guarantee that if a creature like Bigfoot was in my neck of the woods. I would have him stuffed and in my living room. After all. there is no season on them. And they are not protected. So they are fair game.

You ever read the bigfoot webpage on sightings?
Hilarious, someone reported seeing a bigfoot on southmountain, right off baseline by a canal.
haha, awesome.

Blacksmith
01-04-2011, 02:56 PM
You ever read the bigfoot webpage on sightings?
Hilarious, someone reported seeing a bigfoot on southmountain, right off baseline by a canal.
haha, awesome.

LOL
That’s one of those city bigfoot’s. They have survived by hiding out in carports and dumpsters.