Question about Kittens?

[swampdragon]

So a few weeks back, my cat had 6 kittens.
4-black ones and 2- orange ones.
Halloween colors.
Mixed with the blood, it looked pretty cool.

Anyways.....

2 of the 4 black kittens have no tails.
Well, sort of.
But they are just short nubs like a bobcat or something.

What's the deal?

They seem perfectly healthy and happy and are getting into stuff already.

[Uncle Scary]

So a few weeks back, my cat had 6 kittens.
4-black ones and 2- orange ones.
Halloween colors.
Mixed with the blood, it looked pretty cool.

Anyways.....

2 of the 4 black kittens have no tails.
Well, sort of.
But they are just short nubs like a bobcat or something.

What's the deal?

They seem perfectly healthy and happy and are getting into stuff already.

It sounds like you have a Tortoiseshell Manx, my friend. They are frequently tailless and have calico colors.

http://www.catfactfiles.com/images/955201.jpg

[swampdragon]

It sounds like you have a Tortoiseshell Manx, my friend. They are frequently tailless and have calico colors.

http://www.catfactfiles.com/images/955201.jpg

Maybe that's the father?

My slut cat refuses to tell me who the dad is!
lol.....

[abpt1]

So a few weeks back, my cat had 6 kittens.
4-black ones and 2- orange ones.
Halloween colors.
Mixed with the blood, it looked pretty cool.

Anyways.....

2 of the 4 black kittens have no tails.
Well, sort of.
But they are just short nubs like a bobcat or something.

What's the deal?

They seem perfectly healthy and happy and are getting into stuff already.

Maybe the mother chewed it off


Ship me one in a flat rate box .


lol dont forget the holes (in the box not the kitten )

[Tx Dogblaster]

I was gonna say that it sounds like there's a Manx in the wood pile...

[Uncle Scary]

Maybe that's the father?

My slut cat refuses to tell me who the dad is!
lol.....


If my cat didn't hate other cats, I'd insist that you send me a kitten for an inspection. Say, 20 years.

[romakdaddy]

Question about kittens?

well.....theyre great over rice with a little teriaki.......oh.....wait.......thats not the question.......lol

kitten fried rice.....lol
kidding

[AKTexas]

Question about kittens?

well.....theyre great over rice with a little teriaki.......oh.....wait.......thats not the question.......lol

kitten fried rice.....lol
kidding

This was the reply I would have posted.

[aliceinchains]

If my cat didn't hate other cats, I'd insist that you send me a kitten for an inspection. Say, 20 years.




Ditto on that. I would love another kitten if we could.But poloydactile would not like it.

[swampdragon]

Maybe the mother chewed it off


Ship me one in a flat rate box .


lol dont forget the holes (in the box not the kitten )

You want one?
Why?
Is this rare or something?

[swampdragon]

If my cat didn't hate other cats, I'd insist that you send me a kitten for an inspection. Say, 20 years.

The mom is black calico looking...but with no white on her. Maybe just a speck or two. (But she does have a normal tail)
I did see another cat one day from a distance out it my fields.
It looked kinda similar...but I have no idea if it had a tail or not. Too far away.
Don't know if it's the father or not either.

[Nimbly]

Manx cats are semi-rare. White ones are worth a lot. From what I recall the tail-less gene is a recessive trait carried by the mother. Not positive on that though. The ‘Man’ in the Isle of Man refers to the Manx cat where they are thought to originate.

[Oswald Bastable]

Maybe that's the father?

My slut cat refuses to tell me who the dad is!
lol.....

Could be Manx genes, could be Japanese Bobtail...there's half a dozen breeds these days that have tails ranging from none, to a nub, up to half and three quarter tails, some curly, some straight, some kinked.

I'd suggest putting that bitch under the spotlight and teasing her with a string thing until she talks. :)

[Uncle Scary]

The mom is black calico looking...but with no white on her. Maybe just a speck or two. (But she does have a normal tail)
I did see another cat one day from a distance out it my fields.
It looked kinda similar...but I have no idea if it had a tail or not. Too far away.
Don't know if it's the father or not either.

Why are you so fixated with the father? It's not like he has a job, so you can't take him to court for child support. Cats are amazing animals. Just be content in the fact that you are a lucky man with all your pus...er, felines.

[Integratedj]

My Dads neighborhood is freaking crawling with feral tailless cats...Definitely Manx, definitely annoying. If any of you cat lovers want them, come out to az and we'll go trapping. There are over 30 that I have seen, and that was what I counted just looking down the alley.

If they ate pigeons I guess he would have an upside to all the stray cats, but all they do is eat the smaller birds.

[yankeedog]

Aren't calaco cats color blind or can't smell ?????
Theres something about them, they might be like the donkey, mule jackass thing, I don't know but would like to know.

[Uncle Scary]

My Dads neighborhood is freaking crawling with feral tailless cats...Definitely Manx, definitely annoying. If any of you cat lovers want them, come out to az and we'll go trapping. There are over 30 that I have seen, and that was what I counted just looking down the alley.

If they ate pigeons I guess he would have an upside to all the stray cats, but all they do is eat the smaller birds.

Wouldn't be northern AZ by any chance? I was in the Flagstaff/Williams area just a few weeks ago.

[Blacksmith]

Aren't calaco cats color blind or can't smell ?????
Theres something about them, they might be like the donkey, mule jackass thing, I don't know but would like to know.

I had one and it was a damn good cat.
I did not notice anything out of the ordinary. It was one hell of a mouser.

[Integratedj]

Wouldn't be northern AZ by any chance? I was in the Flagstaff/Williams area just a few weeks ago.


No, phx valley.

[Oswald Bastable]

Aren't calaco cats color blind or can't smell ?????
Theres something about them, they might be like the donkey, mule jackass thing, I don't know but would like to know.

Calico cats are all female.

[Krupski]

So a few weeks back, my cat had 6 kittens.
4-black ones and 2- orange ones.
Halloween colors.
Mixed with the blood, it looked pretty cool.

Anyways.....

2 of the 4 black kittens have no tails.
Well, sort of.
But they are just short nubs like a bobcat or something.

What's the deal?

They seem perfectly healthy and happy and are getting into stuff already.

The ones with short tails are easier to install the Tabby Tote into:



http://www.greatguy.com/Tabby_Tote.jpg


(just a joke - seriously I love cats and I have two female cats... one smart and one dumb as a post, but both lovable).

[Krupski]

Maybe that's the father?

My slut cat refuses to tell me who the dad is!
lol.....


A female cat in heat will attract every tomcat in the area. The more she gets, the more she wants until all the tomcats are too tired to fight each other OR do the female cat again.

Therefore, there are multiple fathers and there is a possibility that EACH KITTEN has a different father.

[Krupski]

Aren't calaco cats color blind

Most cats (including lions and such) have vertical slit irises because their retinas have a horizontal line "sharp spot" ("Fovea centralis") unlike our round point sharp spot.

This allows a cat to see and discern objects all along a horizontal plane at once (rather than having to move their eyes).

If humans had cat retinas, they could read an entire sentence without moving their eyes left and right.

The iris closes vertically to maximize the "depth of field" effect which further sharpens their vision. They don't need to squint to see sharper like we do.

The horizontal line shaped fovea also DIMINISHES a cat's ability to judge distance and they will typically swing their heads left and right horizontally in order to get a better idea of depth (no doubt you have seen a cat do this before they jump).

Lastly, a cat needs night vision more than they need color vision, so they have evolved a retina with mostly rod cells and little cone cells. This means they see great in the dark, but they have very little color perception.

Strangely, some cats (like tigers) have a round iris, but they still have "mostly rods color blind" eyes.

Class dismissed.

[swampdragon]

I'd suggest putting that bitch under the spotlight and teasing her with a string thing until she talks. :)


:laugh:

[swampdragon]

I had one and it was a damn good cat.
I did not notice anything out of the ordinary. It was one hell of a mouser.

Same with my momma cat.
She kills mice and voles constantly.

[swampdragon]

It sounds like you have a Tortoiseshell Manx, my friend. They are frequently tailless and have calico colors.

http://www.catfactfiles.com/images/955201.jpg



Well this is getting interesting now.
I had never heard the term "tortoiseshell" before.
I googled it today and ran across some pics on the web.

I guess my momma cat is not a calico at all.
She looks identical, I mean exactly, like the tortoiseshell pics I found:
She has a daughter from her previous litter that looks exactly like this too....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Swampdragon/d8b2b121.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Swampdragon/0c58599d.jpg

[Full Otto]

A female cat in heat will attract every tomcat in the area. The more she gets, the more she wants until all the tomcats are too tired to fight each other OR do the female cat again.

Therefore, there are multiple fathers and there is a possibility that EACH KITTEN has a different father.

http://i51.tinypic.com/xmq26e.jpg

[Oswald Bastable]

Well this is getting interesting now.
I had never heard the term "tortoiseshell" before.
I googled it today and ran across some pics on the web.


Yup, that's a tortie you have there, no doubt about it. :)

[swampdragon]

http://i51.tinypic.com/xmq26e.jpg

:roflwithfeetcv2:

Now THAT's a cute kitty.

[Uncle Scary]

What does the cat from Kommiefornia say?


http://blog.lib.umn.edu/yuanx072/architecture/chairman%20meow.jpg

[swampdragon]

Most cats (including lions and such) have vertical slit irises because their retinas have a horizontal line "sharp spot" ("Fovea centralis") unlike our round point sharp spot.

This allows a cat to see and discern objects all along a horizontal plane at once (rather than having to move their eyes).

If humans had cat retinas, they could read an entire sentence without moving their eyes left and right.

The iris closes vertically to maximize the "depth of field" effect which further sharpens their vision. They don't need to squint to see sharper like we do.

The horizontal line shaped fovea also DIMINISHES a cat's ability to judge distance and they will typically swing their heads left and right horizontally in order to get a better idea of depth (no doubt you have seen a cat do this before they jump).

Lastly, a cat needs night vision more than they need color vision, so they have evolved a retina with mostly rod cells and little cone cells. This means they see great in the dark, but they have very little color perception.

Strangely, some cats (like tigers) have a round iris, but they still have "mostly rods color blind" eyes.

Class dismissed.

You sure know a lot more about pussies than I thought you did.
:laugh:

[l921428x]

Well this is getting interesting now.
I had never heard the term "tortoiseshell" before.
I googled it today and ran across some pics on the web.

I guess my momma cat is not a calico at all.
She looks identical, I mean exactly, like the tortoiseshell pics I found:
She has a daughter from her previous litter that looks exactly like this too....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Swampdragon/d8b2b121.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Swampdragon/0c58599d.jpg

Damn that is one awesome looking feline. Beautiful camo.

[Circle_10]

cat coat color genetics are pretty variable

My cats' mother was a tortoiseshell, and their father was a grey tabby/white (we are sure of the parentage) with polydactyl paws. One of my cats looks like his father, the other is black and white, but neither have polydactyl paws. the other two kittens from the litter that still live at my friend's house are another black and white female and an orange tabby male, both with polydactyl paws like their father.

Calico and tortoiseshell cats are almost always female because the genes for calico coloration have something to do with XX chromosomes, very rarely you will find a male calico or tortoiseshell, but they tend to be sterile due to a chromosome mutation.

On the other hand, orange tabby coloration is more common in male cats. I've also heard that there is a link between orange coat coloration and aggression in male cats, which might be why an orange tabby male is sometimes viewed as the stereotypical tough battlescarred farm or alley dwelling tomcat.

as far as I know calicos have no genetic anomalies like an impaired sense of smell or vision problems. White cats with blue eyes however, do tend to suffer from deafness.

[abpt1]

You want one?
Why?
Is this rare or something?
no my daughter has been pesting me for a stupid cat for two years !

[swampdragon]

cat coat color genetics are pretty variable

My cats' mother was a tortoiseshell, and their father was a grey tabby/white (we are sure of the parentage) with polydactyl paws. One of my cats looks like his father, the other is black and white, but neither have polydactyl paws. the other two kittens from the litter that still live at my friend's house are another black and white female and an orange tabby male, both with polydactyl paws like their father.

Calico and tortoiseshell cats are almost always female because the genes for calico coloration have something to do with XX chromosomes, very rarely you will find a male calico or tortoiseshell, but they tend to be sterile due to a chromosome mutation.

On the other hand, orange tabby coloration is more common in male cats. I've also heard that there is a link between orange coat coloration and aggression in male cats, which might be why an orange tabby male is sometimes viewed as the stereotypical tough battlescarred farm or alley dwelling tomcat.

as far as I know calicos have no genetic anomalies like an impaired sense of smell or vision problems. White cats with blue eyes however, do tend to suffer from deafness.

Well I guess that explains why both of my tortoiseshells are female.
I'm learnin' me some cat stuff here!
lol...
Thanks!

[swampdragon]

no my daughter has been pesting me for a stupid cat for two years !

Oh...

:laughingtohard:

[slamfire51]

A female cat in heat will attract every tomcat in the area. The more she gets, the more she wants until all the tomcats are too tired to fight each other OR do the female cat again.

Therefore, there are multiple fathers and there is a possibility that EACH KITTEN has a different father.

Sounds like my old ex-girlfriend.

Now here's a smart cat.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/Canis-latrans/funny-pictures-cat-calls-in-dead-to-work.jpg http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/Canis-latrans/cat.jpg

[Oswald Bastable]

I've also heard that there is a link between orange coat coloration and aggression in male cats, which might be why an orange tabby male is sometimes viewed as the stereotypical tough battlescarred farm or alley dwelling tomcat.

I'd say that's more old wive's tale than anything. Every red mackerel tabby I've known has been a big teddy bear and very laid back.

[AKTexas]

My ex-wife found a newly born kitten,he was an orange tabby.He was nearly dead,we revived him and my ex bottle fed him.She was her baby before we had kids.Turned out he might of suffered from some brain damage.

Sweet cat,very loving but dumb as a post!He was a full blown retard and the only cat on the planet I disliked.He knew I did not care for him but he would forget.He would jump in my lap look up at me with a look of confusion then suddenly realize he was in the wrong lap.He would jump down,drop a turd,and hide.

He was such a fat ass.he would eat and in 10 mins forgot he ate and go gorge himself again,then puke on my work boots by the front door.If one of the other cats was using the box and he needed to go he would just shit on the floor in front of it.We had more than one box just to prevent this.

He was scared of the vacuum cleaner when it was not even on.We had to put him away when we took it out for cleaning or he would shit himself trying to hide.And in the carrier we put him in locked in the bathroom out of sight he would shit himself when we ran the vacuum.

His name was Lucky!

[Circle_10]

I'd say that's more old wive's tale than anything. Every red mackerel tabby I've known has been a big teddy bear and very laid back.



I've heard that too actually so it's kinda conflicting. Maybe it's that they are less skittish, which would result in their being friendly toward their people but potentially more assertive in defending territories from other toms. I actually think the aggressiveness issue may have been mentioned in the context of protecting a territory from other male cats, not as having an overall aggressive demeanor.

[Uncle Scary]

My cat:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o301/unclscary/IMG_1627.jpg


Hitler's Cat:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o301/unclscary/kitler8-1.jpg

[swampdragon]

My cat:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o301/unclscary/IMG_1627.jpg


Hitler's Cat:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o301/unclscary/kitler8-1.jpg

The orange one looks similar to a couple of mine, except mine are still tiny at the moment.
LOL.....at that Hitler cat.
That's FUNNY!....
:laughingtohard:

[00RedZX-6R]

I am getting a new cat in February. Hopefully this new one isn't a dick like the old one.

My old cat would attack my guests as they tried to walk to the bathroom.

[swampdragon]

I am getting a new cat in February. Hopefully this new one isn't a dick like the old one.

My old cat would attack my guests as they tried to walk to the bathroom.

Awe. Cute lil thing.:thumbsup:
I swear man.
Kittens and puppies just turn me into a big ol' softie.
I'll even stop attacking people while they are going to the bathroom while I'm playing with a kitten.

[AKTexas]

I swear man,just turn me into a big ol' softie.


That is what happens when you get old...Get some Viagra and quit sharing your issues with us. :punch1:

[Uncle Scary]

Awe. Cute lil thing.:thumbsup:
I swear man.
Kittens and puppies just turn me into a big ol' softie.
I'll even stop attacking people while they are going to the bathroom while I'm playing with a kitten.

Mark Twain was famous for his love of cats, with many quotes attributed to their nobility.

http://www.twainquotes.com/twain-cat3.jpg

http://www.twainquotes.com/Cats.html

Lenin liked cats, but he did not share them collectively with the masses.

http://judey.dasmirnov.net/leninkitten.gif

And Don Vito "Godfather" Corleone:

http://www.newyorkshitty.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/vito-and-his-kitty.jpg