CMMG 300 black out

[shadow65]

CMMG will be releasing a 300 Black Out upper in the near future.
There will be some innovations I can't release at this point but when you see them, you will definetly want them.

[blobman]

well,im intrigued..what is is

[shadow65]

I wish I could tell you but the patents have not been filed yet.

[blobman]

cal,length,does it look like a ar type rifle?surely you can divulge that

[shadow65]

Yes, It's a 300 AAC upper that will fit your 5.56 lower.
5.56 mags will work with the 300AAC. Same capacity.
I'm not sure of the barrel lengths yet. Looks like a 12.5 barrel and standard 16". Both medium profile.
The 300AAC looks to be a great round for the AR set up. More knock down, same capacity, subs and supersonic rounds available.

The innovation will involve options not available from other manufacturers as of yet. But that will be down the road.

[rsilvers]

Here are some 300 AAC BLACKOUT videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRw-ypBgrKo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPiqZXu9kP0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbYLyfFf9u8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VivPz-Z0wAw

[O.S.O.K.]

Wilson has one out too - 7.62 WT: http://www.wilsoncombat.com/762x40WT.htm 150 grain to 2200 fps, 125 to 2400 fps.

Crazy how many new "AR" calibers there are now - but none have moved into a dominant position.

I guess the military has to pick one up and then that will be the duce.

[rsilvers]

300 AAC BLACKOUT is dominating. Here is a list of companies making products for it:

AAC - uppers, rifles, silencers, and ammunition.
Adams Arms - rifles and uppers.
AR15 Performance - barrels.
Atlanta Arms - ammo.
Barnes Bullets - bullets.
Black Hole Weaponry - barrels.
Brad's Warehouse - converted brass.
Bushmaster Firearms - uppers and rifles.
BWE Firearms - rifles, uppers, and suppressors.
CMMG - barrels.
Compass Lake Engineering - AR barrels.
Cor-Bon - ammo
Delta Company Arms - rifles, barrels, uppers.
Dillon Precision - reloading conversion kits.
Double Tap - ammo.
DPMS - rifles and uppers.
Forster - reloading dies.
Hornady - ammo, dies.
Lee - reloading dies.
Lewis Machine and Tool - barrels, uppers, rifles.
Loki Weapon Systems - uppers/rifles.
Lone Star Armory - 300 AAC BLACKOUT marked lowers.
Lothar Walther - barrels.
Match Grade Machine - Thompson barrels.
McGowen Barrel - Savage and other barrels.
Montana Rifleman - barrels.
Noveske - rifles and uppers.
One Shot - ammo.
Pac-Nor - barrels.
Pacific Tool and Gauge - reamers and gauges.
PNW Arms - ammo.
Primary Weapons Systems - rifles and uppers.
Raven Armament Company - ammo and uppers.
Redding - dies.
Remington - ammunition.
Satern Custom Machining, Inc. - barrels.
Selph Arms LLC - barrels, uppers, re-chambering, and rifles.
SI Defense - barrels.
Sierra - bullets.
SilencerCo - silencers.
Southern Ballistic Research - ammo.
Surefire - 300 BLK sound suppressor.
Spike's Tactical - uppers and rifles.
The Bullet Works - bullets and ammunition.
Triton Arms - AR barrels.
Umlaut Industries - 300 BLK caliber marked Rifles, Upper and Lowers. 16" and 10" Factory Title II.
White Oak Precision - AR barrels.
Wilson Combat - rifles, hunting and self defense ammunition.

[NewbieAKguy]

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XCMMGM3001603R

Shadow, due you by chance work for CMMG or know a good source there? Reason I ask is because I'm looking into getting a .308 AR and CMMG is now producing entire rifles...only one I've seen so far is the 18" bull barrel with magpul prs stock version. From googling I've found out other versions are in the works. Any idea when they'll be out, or even listed on their website?

[shadow65]

I'll see what I can find out. So many projects going on, it's hard to keep up.
Dave

[abpt1]

I just hope if its worth buying its not another 1k upper .....

[Schuetzenman]

I just hope if its worth buying its not another 1k upper .....

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XCMMGM3001603R&name=CMMG+M300+AAC+Blackout+Upper+w%2fMid+Length+4 +Rail+FFT&groupid=55 Link to complete upper at 6 bills.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=ACMMG300BLKSUB&name=CMMG+.300+BLACKOUT+(7.62x35)+175grn+Subsonic+ 200rds&groupid=345 Link to ammo.

[Lysander]

Could someone walk me through the advantages of .300 Blackout over say 6.5, 6.8, and even 5.56?

[Gunreference1]

Could someone walk me through the advantages of .300 Blackout over say 6.5, 6.8, and even 5.56?

Lysander, you might be interested ib this:

Introducing the Advanced Armament Corp. 300 AAC BLACKOUT (300BLK). This system was developed to launch 30 caliber projectiles from the AR platform without a reduction in magazine capacity and compatible with the standard bolt.

Full power 123 grain ammunition matches the ballistics of the 7.62x39mm AK, has 37% more energy than 5.56mm M855, and 9% more than 6.8 SPC TAP 110. In fact, from a 9 inch barrel, the 300BLK has more muzzle energy than 5.56mm M855 from a 16 inch barrel. When 300 BLK is used in a 16 inch barrel, it has 23% more energy than 5.56mm M855 from a 16 inch barrel - with much higher-mass projectiles for a more dramatic effect on the target. Or choose subsonic cartridges for optimal use with a sound suppressor - 220 grain Sierra OTM (open-tip match) bullets vastly outperforms a 9mm MP5-SD in penetration and long range accuracy.

Due to the high efficiency of the cartridge, less powder is used than 5.56mm, which results in a rifle that is a comfortable to shoot - even with a short barrel.

Reference - http://300aacblackout.com/

Steve

[Schuetzenman]

Could someone walk me through the advantages of .300 Blackout over say 6.5, 6.8, and even 5.56?

It is another 300 Whisper type round. In other words its for suppressed fire use. Only thing I can think you'd want it for is covert sniper / counter sniper work. As civilians we don't have much call for that unless we are playing Rambo at the range. It's slow and accurate and you would use it dialed in to specific yardage, probably 200 to 300 yards max given how slow it is. With a can on the weapon it should be airgun quiet. Based on the AAC advertisment quote I'd say they may be touting it for an entry weapon chambering. Easy to suppress, hits like a brick up close.

[Lysander]

Scheutz, Steve, thanks.

So essentially, this would be a nice round for a suppressed HD SBR, something to pop bad guys and not wake the baby. Sounds interesting.

[L1A1Rocker]

My 300 BLK
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/L1A1Rocker/300%20Fireball%20project/HPIM0451.jpg

Internally suppressed, Home built on a Form 1


http://s79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/L1A1Rocker/300%20Fireball%20project/?action=view&current=HPIM0468.mp4

[rsilvers]

Here is an FAQ I am working on:

It is simply a way to shoot 30 caliber bullets from an AR. The fact that it will cycle an AR with subsonic ammo is a bonus to some people, but I would not call that the primary use for it. Most people just want to hunt or use it for self-defense - and hunting deer with 223 is illegal in many areas.

http://www.silencertalk.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=128&t=73274

[NewbieAKguy]

I'll see what I can find out. So many projects going on, it's hard to keep up.
Dave

Didn't mean to add to your plate. If you can get updated info that'd be awesome and much appreciated. Not in a hurry to spend my money, just trying to collect as much info as possible to make an educated decision. Thanks again and if it's a hassle don't worry about it, I'll keep looking around for info.

[Viking350]

Could someone walk me through the advantages of .300 Blackout over say 6.5, 6.8, and even 5.56?

I am completely ignorant in this regard, so please excuse me. Why is this caliber better than say an upper in 7.62 x 39?

[Gunreference1]

I am completely ignorant in this regard, so please excuse me. Why is this caliber better than say an upper in 7.62 x 39?

Viking350, please go back to post #14 in this thread and click on the link I posted. There is information there that might help you.

Steve

[Viking350]

Viking350, please go back to post #14 in this thread and click on the link I posted. There is information there that might help you.

Steve

Thanks.

[RCS]

I like this cartridge.