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grumpy
01-13-2011, 12:23 AM
hi , does anyone make soft lead 255 gr .45 hollow base bullets , I used to use Winchester only i cannot find them any more ??

old Grump
01-13-2011, 12:43 AM
Don't know about buying them but Lee makes molds for them if you cast. Get their catalog and find which bullet you want. Get a book on casting and join the roll your own club.

grumpy
01-13-2011, 12:47 AM
hi ol grump , this is a antique and I have used Winchester lead bullets with great results someone must make swagded lead bullets for a ole .45.


Don't know about buying them but Lee makes molds for them if you cast. Get their catalog and find which bullet you want. Get a book on casting and join the roll your own club.

Schuetzenman
01-13-2011, 07:44 AM
hi , does anyone make soft lead 255 gr .45 hollow base bullets , I used to use Winchester only i cannot find them any more ??

http://moyerscastbullets.com/ for the home page. http://moyerscastbullets.com/pricelist.html for the price list. I see a 255 gr. bevel base semi-wadcutter. That might work for you. They mention doing bullets for Cowboy Action Shooters. Never done business with them as I cast anything I need. They've been in business since 1989, so if they're still around you'd think they'd be OK to deal with.

grumpy
01-13-2011, 04:34 PM
hi Schuetzenman, many thanks , still hoping for soft swadged as this is really old Colt and it shot so well with the Winchester round nose, grumpy



http://moyerscastbullets.com/ for the home page. http://moyerscastbullets.com/pricelist.html for the price list. I see a 255 gr. bevel base semi-wadcutter. That might work for you. They mention doing bullets for Cowboy Action Shooters. Never done business with them as I cast anything I need. They've been in business since 1989, so if they're still around you'd think they'd be OK to deal with.

Darrell
01-13-2011, 10:59 PM
http://www.missouribullet.com/results.php?pageNum_rsCWResults=0&category=5&secondary=14

I've ordered from these folks before and when they say fast shipping they mean it.

O.S.O.K.
01-14-2011, 12:08 PM
Not hollow-base but both Hornady and Speer still offer swaged soft-lead bullets.

Darrell
01-14-2011, 02:36 PM
Sorry. I should have read closer. I didn't catch the hollow-base part.:embarrassed:

grumpy
01-14-2011, 03:19 PM
no problem , someone make them

Schuetzenman
01-14-2011, 06:42 PM
hi Schuetzenman, many thanks , still hoping for soft swadged as this is really old Colt and it shot so well with the Winchester round nose, grumpy

The secret to any handgun or rifle accuracy is size fitting the groove diameter. Have you slugged the barrel to know what that size is? The bullet should be exactly that size at the minimum. I'm sure if they are making Cowboy Action bullets meant for black powder low pressure loads they will be using a soft alloy. Give them a call, often one can find out that a bullet caster can tailor the round to the weapon on special order.

grumpy
01-14-2011, 07:36 PM
hi Schuetzenman , one revolver is a iron frame 1876 vintage colt saa ( not forged steel ) & the other is a 1878 /1902 Philopino model both are not made of modern steel , soft lead has great for years , unsure how hard cast will work , grumpy

O.S.O.K.
01-14-2011, 10:07 PM
Well, IMHO, you are doing right to stick with soft lead for best accuracy and low leading in those two. But hard cast, if sized properly like Schutz says will work fine too and not hurt a thing. The soft lead with hollow base is very forgiving though and easier to get good results with.

Schuetzenman
01-14-2011, 10:36 PM
hi Schuetzenman , one revolver is a iron frame 1876 vintage colt saa ( not forged steel ) & the other is a 1878 /1902 Philopino model both are not made of modern steel , soft lead has great for years , unsure how hard cast will work , grumpy

Not all bullets are "hard". Depends on the alloy used. Your guns would of been use to shooting led and tin alloy slugs when they were new. Probably a 1 in 20 mix of tin to lead would do the trick. This is a popular alloy for Schuetzen Rifles which the originals were all old, not overy hard barreled weapons. In any event Iron is mega harder than a even a "Hard" cast alloy bullet. Lead alloys are done on the Brinell scale of hardness. I'm not up on what an iron frame Colt would be but iron can range from 110 Brinell to 550 Brinell. The Brinell Hardness Number of a 1 in 20 Tin-Lead alloy = 10.15. Lyman #2 alloy is 15.8 BHN and Linotype is 22 BHN. Linotype makes a great bullet for a modern .357, .41 or .44 Mangum revolver. Most cast bullets are proably around the #2 Alloy in hardness.

http://www.corbins.com/lead.htm#wire Here's a link to Crobon. They make swaging dies, and offer lead wire on rolls for sale for the DIY lead bullet swaging kind of guy.

grumpy
01-16-2011, 12:05 AM
hi guys , I apreciate your input , i have had these guns for many years ad soft lead has worked well , i will find some sooner or later , grumpy