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El Jefe
01-27-2011, 02:02 PM
These things worked better than I figured they would. I just trimmed the wicks a bit and filled them with citronella oil and lit them. Before you ask, I used the citronella oil because it's what I had on hand.

Anyway, they work well, I'll probably try a Dietz lamp next.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6466/lampsandstuff015.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/lampsandstuff015.jpg/)

Richard Simmons
01-27-2011, 03:05 PM
Good deal. I need to get something like that for when we loose power.

This is what I'd really like but they cost a pretty penny. They'll burn just about anything


http://store.britelyt.com/servlet/-strse-9/Lamp-Lamps-petromax-geniol/Detail

cciota
01-27-2011, 03:53 PM
I have a couple of Dietz lamps for no power situations. They are nice. I don't know about Wally World lamps but you have to change wicks when you change fuel types in the Dietz lamps.

El Jefe
01-27-2011, 04:17 PM
I gave these a try because they were so cheap. IIRC they were $9.00 a piece. I'd imagine the wick change deal would be the case on most lamps, they're working in the same manner. These aren't very sturdily built, but hey, they're cheap! :)

I think tonight once it's good and dark out I'll fire them up and see how they work outside.

Cciota, which Dietz lantern do you have?

cciota
01-27-2011, 05:27 PM
I gave these a try because they were so cheap. IIRC they were $9.00 a piece. I'd imagine the wick change deal would be the case on most lamps, they're working in the same manner. These aren't very sturdily built, but hey, they're cheap! :)

I think tonight once it's good and dark out I'll fire them up and see how they work outside.

Cciota, which Dietz lantern do you have?

I have one of these:

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/sports-imports_2142_7747078

And one of these:

http://image.lehmans.com/lehmans/Images/products/large/3701rg.jpg

aliceinchains
01-27-2011, 05:44 PM
I have quite a few DIETZ lanterns. They say to stay away from the red dyed kerosene it is not good for the wicks. It was a Damn shame when the company was moved to China.


http://www.lanternnet.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=WKL&Category_Code=DL

El Jefe
01-27-2011, 05:58 PM
Cciota, yeah the millennium cooker/lantern is the Dietz model I've been wanting to get. I figured if nothing else you could cook up some ramen noodles with it. :)

cciota
01-27-2011, 06:03 PM
Cciota, yeah the millennium cooker/lantern is the Dietz model I've been wanting to get. I figured if nothing else you could cook up some ramen noodles with it. :)

Lehman's has them in stock:

http://www.lehmans.com/store/Lamps_Lights___Lanterns___Dietz___Dietz_Oil_Lanter n_Cooker___M2000?Args=

El Jefe
01-27-2011, 06:22 PM
Lehman's has them in stock:

http://www.lehmans.com/store/Lamps_Lights___Lanterns___Dietz___Dietz_Oil_Lanter n_Cooker___M2000?Args=

If you'll follow Alice's link, you'll see you can get them from Kirkman for a dollar less. Not sure about shipping from either tho.

Have you cooked anything on yours?

cciota
01-27-2011, 06:35 PM
If you'll follow Alice's link, you'll see you can get them from Kirkman for a dollar less. Not sure about shipping from either tho.

Have you cooked anything on yours?

Nope, not yet.

El Jefe
01-27-2011, 07:30 PM
Just for fun after dinner I fired em up and took them outside. They throw some light hanging on my garden shed. :)

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1372/lampsonshed004.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/lampsonshed004.jpg/)

aliceinchains
01-27-2011, 07:56 PM
On a clear night the different colored globes look Kool!

El Jefe
01-27-2011, 08:12 PM
On a clear night the different colored globes look Kool!

I'll bet they do, might be cool to do in the summer in the backyard.

aliceinchains
01-27-2011, 08:27 PM
I'll bet they do, might be cool to do in the summer in the backyard.


Yes sir that is the best time. A very relaxing effect. This is the Globe page even if the picture of the globe is clear click on it and it will give you color options. http://www.lanternnet.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=WKL&Category_Code=RG

El Jefe
01-27-2011, 08:41 PM
Or, you could always order the party set. :)

http://www.lanternnet.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=WKL&Product_Code=WTKPLS&Category_Code=WKL

O.S.O.K.
01-27-2011, 08:42 PM
Cool. I just bought a couple of these cheapo lanterns from wally world too - along with some more oil.. I have some other lamps and oil somewhere esle too... I also bought some extra wicks.

Never fired one up - good to know that they throw decent light. Wonder how much fuel they use over a given time?

MOP
01-27-2011, 10:57 PM
Same here, just got back from raiding Wally World.

Got 3 of those lanterns, and 6 five gal. buckets.

Schuetzenman
01-28-2011, 07:31 AM
I have a couple of Dietz lamps for no power situations. They are nice. I don't know about Wally World lamps but you have to change wicks when you change fuel types in the Dietz lamps.

I've had lamps like those for a long time. The wicks seldom need trimming if you only use them during power outages. If it was 1880 and you used it every night, possibly you'd trim them once a week. Don't know as I've never burned one every night for a week.

HDR
01-29-2011, 07:46 AM
I have glass and metal oil lamps.

The metal ones seem radiate more heat and I lose power in the summer also. :D

El Jefe
01-29-2011, 10:15 AM
I have glass and metal oil lamps.

The metal ones seem radiate more heat and I lose power in the summer also. :D

That was pretty obvious right off, these things throw some heat. Which makes the Dietz cooking model seem quite viable, but yeah, might be a bitch in the heat of the summer, probably better have good screens on the windows.

Helen Keller
01-29-2011, 06:05 PM
I bought a large and small lamp like these at Biglots years ago for $2 each.



Have worked perfectly, nice to have on hand if power wold go out and I have to retreat to the garage to stay warm.

coppertales
02-01-2011, 10:59 AM
I have 94 glass kerosene oil lamps. Most of them are pre-1900. Yep, I am a lamp and C&R junkie.

If you trim the wick straight across, you get more light as the flame has two points to it. If you trim it rounded, like the top of the burner, you get a candle flame. REMEMBER, keep the flame low until the chimny warms up. I shattered a 100 year old chimney by turning the flame up too quickly.

To cut down on smell, use non-odorous oil. It is fefined cleaner than the cheap oil. You don't need to change the wick when you change the oil.

The Alladin type lamps put out almost as much light as a Coleman lantern.

Oil lamps put out alot of heat. Remember John Wayne lighting his cigar off a lamp chimny in the movie "The man who shot liberty valance".....

recon
02-01-2011, 11:23 AM
"To cut down on smell, use non-odorous oil. It is fefined cleaner than the cheap oil."

So where can you find it?

O.S.O.K.
02-01-2011, 11:43 AM
That's just the standard lamp oil isn't it? Walmart? Or not...?

And how long does a fill of oil last (assume cheap wallyworld lamp, round trim on wick)?

El Jefe
02-01-2011, 11:51 AM
I too would like to know more about cleaner lamp oil. :)

O.S.O.K.
02-01-2011, 12:21 PM
Also - we have an old lamp - the brass wick holder in the middle is marked "macbeth" on one side and "Nu-Type" on the other. Whatcha think of that? :) It's base is clear glass as-is the chimney.

This is kinda like the antique roadshow :lool:

L1A1Rocker
02-01-2011, 12:54 PM
Think I've posted this before. My area is prone to power outages:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/L1A1Rocker/Flowers1a.jpg?t=1296582747

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/L1A1Rocker/flowers2a.jpg?t=1296582812

I've also got one mounted in the bedroom plus two more for moving around.

swampdragon
02-01-2011, 03:21 PM
Think I've posted this before. My area is prone to power outages:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/L1A1Rocker/Flowers1a.jpg?t=1296582747

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/L1A1Rocker/flowers2a.jpg?t=1296582812

I've also got one mounted in the bedroom plus two more for moving around.

Mine are like yours.
I have a handful of glass lanterns from Lamplight Farms that I've had and used for years and years now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Swampdragon/11689590.jpg

coppertales
02-01-2011, 07:27 PM
https://www.lehmans.com/store/Lamps_Lights___Fuel___KleanHeat_Oil_Lamp_Fuel___52 243?Args= I have not used this particular brand but it says the same thing as the brand I use. The jug is out in the garage and I don't want to open the door, it is 20 degrees out. When it warms up above freezing, I will get the brand. I got it at a local hardware store, either a Tru Value or Ace. I get it in a 2 gallon jug which last me quite a while. I will see if I can come up with the name. You can find alot of antique oil lamps on ebay under kerosene lamps....chris3

The brand of lamp oil I use is "Ultra Pure Pariffin Lamp Oil". I see it on Ace, Tru Value, and Walmart's web site.....chris3

HDR
02-01-2011, 09:40 PM
Don't know as I've never burned one every night for a week.

Last time I used them for a week was the ice storm of 2005 and the 3' snow in 2000.

How could you miss all the fun? :lool:


That was pretty obvious right off, these things throw some heat. Which makes the Dietz cooking model seem quite viable, but yeah, might be a bitch in the heat of the summer, probably better have good screens on the windows.

The glass ones are open on top which passes heat same as a chimney. Except once I've lived where the power goes out often all my life so I've had both types for about 35-40 years. So I take short duration prepping seriously. The Dietz cooking model works decently but not much capacity for a family. OTOH, better than nothing.

El Jefe
02-01-2011, 09:56 PM
https://www.lehmans.com/store/Lamps_Lights___Fuel___KleanHeat_Oil_Lamp_Fuel___52 243?Args= I have not used this particular brand but it says the same thing as the brand I use. The jug is out in the garage and I don't want to open the door, it is 20 degrees out. When it warms up above freezing, I will get the brand. I got it at a local hardware store, either a Tru Value or Ace. I get it in a 2 gallon jug which last me quite a while. I will see if I can come up with the name. You can find alot of antique oil lamps on ebay under kerosene lamps....chris3

The brand of lamp oil I use is "Ultra Pure Pariffin Lamp Oil". I see it on Ace, Tru Value, and Walmart's web site.....chris3

Paraffin, that's petroleum too, if used indoors it doesn't smell or bother you at all? I know this citronella oil I have isn't real good indoors.

El Jefe
02-01-2011, 10:00 PM
Last time I used them for a week was the ice storm of 2005 and the 3' snow in 2000.

How could you miss all the fun? :lool:



The glass ones are open on top which passes heat same as a chimney. Except once I've lived where the power goes out often all my life so I've had both types for about 35-40 years. So I take short duration prepping seriously. The Dietz cooking model works decently but not much capacity for a family. OTOH, better than nothing.

Well, I've got the camp stove and a half dozen little propane bottles for it. Of course our cooktop and oven are natural gas, so obviously even without electricity I'd probably have use of those, but, ya never know.

I'd think two or three of these lamps would heat a smaller room, but I'd be concerned with the fumes.

coppertales
02-01-2011, 10:04 PM
nothing like standing behind a jet engine or such. I notice it at first when we light up but I don't notice it after that. Where I do notice it is when we light up a half dozen lamps or so. My collection is centered around specific designs and some designs I have 6/8 of different sizes. I have quite a few finger lamps. They are cool.

Get a quart size and see if it bothers you. It is meant to be used indoors. They warm up a room on a cold day......chris3

coppertales
02-01-2011, 10:11 PM
check flea markets for Coleman stoves, both the propane kind and white gas kind. I see them all the time for less than 20 bucks. You can cook anything you cook on a stove top on them. I picked up one made in the 30s for 8 bucks. It is a real old timer but in good shape. The tank pump holds air so I need to fire it up one of these days. I have a big three burner Coleman I got for 10 bucks. The only thing wrong with it is the check valve in the air pump was stuck. It took a minute to free it up, the guy used regular car gas in it, and it works just fine. The later models can use car gas but I never do....chris3

recon
02-01-2011, 11:00 PM
How anout Olive oil lamps?
http://www.lehmans.com/store/Lamps_Lights___Olive_Oil_Lamps?Args=&view_all=&sort_by=

swampdragon
02-02-2011, 12:00 AM
check flea markets for Coleman stoves, both the propane kind and white gas kind. I see them all the time for less than 20 bucks. You can cook anything you cook on a stove top on them. I picked up one made in the 30s for 8 bucks. It is a real old timer but in good shape. The tank pump holds air so I need to fire it up one of these days. I have a big three burner Coleman I got for 10 bucks. The only thing wrong with it is the check valve in the air pump was stuck. It took a minute to free it up, the guy used regular car gas in it, and it works just fine. The later models can use car gas but I never do....chris3

My Coleman stove and Lantern are both duel fuel.
I can run Coleman Fuel or unleaded gasoline in them.
Had them for years.
They still work great.
Will never get rid of them.
Some things just work so well, that even when new stuff comes out...it's still better to just replace your old stuff with the same thing.

I hate propane.
The cans never last long enough.
And, I can store a couple 5 gal cans of unleaded gas for less money and easier availability around here.
Propane is for suckers.
lol...

coppertales
02-02-2011, 09:33 AM
few oil lamps this morning. Right after I made coffee, the power went out. They have 15 minute rolling blackouts going today. Too many folks have the heaters turned up too high. You would be amaized how much dust a lamp chimney gathers while it is sitting there on the shelf. chris3

L1A1Rocker
02-02-2011, 10:08 AM
few oil lamps this morning. Right after I made coffee, the power went out. They have 15 minute rolling blackouts going today. Too many folks have the heaters turned up too high. You would be amaized how much dust a lamp chimney gathers while it is sitting there on the shelf. chris3

Crap! Same here. Texas has rolling black outs to "conserve" electricity. Woke up with no power. Only 25 here but still. . . Called my folks to make sure they layed in a fire (it's 10 there). The reports are the planned rolling blackouts are 10-45 minutes but some people are claiming it is lasting much longer than an hour.

Stay warm folks - and watch out for the global warming.

coppertales
02-02-2011, 12:21 PM
If there weren't so many illegals in TX using up all the electricity, we would not have this problem. I dragged the Coleman stove and lanterns out of the garage and pulled the generator next to the door in case I need it.......This is Texas hospitality. We want the Packers to feel at home.......chris3

O.S.O.K.
02-02-2011, 01:48 PM
Those olive oil lamps look super easy to make - just some wire bent to hold the wicck and some wick, and fill with the oil to just under the tip of the wick. Viola!

El Jefe
02-02-2011, 02:04 PM
Those olive oil lamps look super easy to make - just some wire bent to hold the wicck and some wick, and fill with the oil to just under the tip of the wick. Viola!

I dunno, olive oil seems kind of heavy for this use, I'd wonder about soot and such. :conf44:

O.S.O.K.
02-02-2011, 02:42 PM
Nope. Burns clean as shit. No soot.

You can use it in your regular oil lamps too - it goes up the wick just fine.

Makes me hungry though smelling it... maybe needs a little garlic in there :laugh:

El Jefe
02-02-2011, 02:44 PM
Nope. Burns clean as shit. No soot.

You can use it in your regular oil lamps too - it goes up the wick just fine.

Makes me hungry though smelling it... maybe needs a little garlic in there :laugh:

Uh, keep that burning for a few weeks before you decide it burns clean, if it was burning so clean would you have all the odor?

O.S.O.K.
02-02-2011, 04:29 PM
Actually, the odor was only when the wick was charring and when I put it out and it made smoke then. While it's burning normally, no soot, no odor, no smoke... check it out for yourself.

coppertales
02-02-2011, 06:15 PM
olive oil has been used as lamp oil for the last 5000 years or so......I guess I will have to try it in one of mine.....chris3

swampdragon
02-02-2011, 06:22 PM
olive oil has been used as lamp oil for the last 5000 years or so.....

Exactly.

MOP
02-02-2011, 09:25 PM
Would the much cheaper vegetable oil work just as well ?

HDR
02-05-2011, 08:39 AM
I dunno, olive oil seems kind of heavy for this use, I'd wonder about soot and such. :conf44:

Olive oil is what the ancients used.

IF the doubtful TEOTWAWKI ever arrives in time everything modern we use will be gone which will make life interesting for the survivors.

alismith
02-05-2011, 02:03 PM
I have a bunch of oil lamps and I, mostly, use kerosene in them. They burn fairly clean and if the flame is kept low, they don't give off much odor. I like the smell of kerosene, so, what odor they do give off is fine with me. Kerosene is far cheaper than regular lamp oil and I keep about 5-10 gallons on hand all the time.

As far as cooking goes, you can use a kerosene heater and cook off the top of it. It's ok in the winter, but would be a little hot in the summer to run it. If I had to, I'd just take it out to the porch and cook out there.

I do have regular lamp oil I bought at WallyWorld, but only use it in the oil candles I have.

I don't really have much issue with my power company as they have been very good about preventing power outages. We might get 2-3 outages per year and those are usually of short duration.

El Laton Caliente
02-05-2011, 02:36 PM
Well, I've got the camp stove and a half dozen little propane bottles for it. Of course our cooktop and oven are natural gas, so obviously even without electricity I'd probably have use of those, but, ya never know.

I'd think two or three of these lamps would heat a smaller room, but I'd be concerned with the fumes.

Harbor Freight has an adaptor that lets you refill the small 1 lbs bottles from refillable 20-30-40 lbs RV & grill style bottles. You have to chill the small bottles to get them full. 15 to 30 minutes in ice or a freezer will do, chill & repeat fill. $30 to fill a 20 lbs bottle is cheaper than buying 20 1 lbs bottles at $2.59 each.