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Gunreference1
07-27-2010, 08:55 AM
Raymore gun issue will be on Nov. 2 ballot

By DONALD BRADLEY
The Kansas City Star

Raymore’s politicians have argued since last winter about whether City Council members should be allowed to carry concealed weapons at meetings.

On Nov. 2, the people will get their say.

At Monday’s City Council meeting, a petition with more than 1,600 signatures was presented to take the issue out of the council’s hands and put it to a vote of the people.

If the proposed charter amendment passes, it will undo an ordinance the council passed this spring allowing members to come armed to meetings.

State law demands that the council approve putting the question on the ballot because the petition met its legal requirements. So the council did, unanimously.

“City Hall is a forum where debate and an exchange of ideas should occur in a cordial and safe setting,” petition organizer Monique Lewis told the meeting. “How many residents will avoid coming to this podium because they don’t feel safe here?”

The petition drew nearly 400 more signatures than required. The issue, Lewis said, should be decided by the people, not the council.

The petition is the result of a broad-based coalition of both non-gun owners and permit-carrying owners coming together to give the people the right to exercise their vote in November, she said.

But that doesn’t mean the politicians will stay out of the debate. Councilman Jeff Adams has called the petition challenge an “abortion.” He said that it restricted Second Amendment rights and that organizers misled signers.

He and Councilman Dutch Becker, a former gun store operator, attacked the petition because it did not specify that the prohibition of concealed weapons did not apply to police officers.

“This would disarm the police,” Adams said.

Raymore Police Chief Kris Turnbow, who was called to the podium, didn’t see it that way. He pointed out that uniformed officers wear firearms in a belt holster, not concealed. The proposal should not interfere with police duty, Turnbow told the meeting.

Lewis said excluding police officers was not a mistake.

“They wear their guns on the outside — that’s what police do,” she said.

Becker also made the point that the election would cost the city $25,000.

Lewis is a former council member who lost her seat in April. It is widely thought that her position on guns contributed to her defeat.

Councilman Jeff Cox sponsored the original ordinance in January.

His motivation was what has been called the “city hall massacre” in Kirkwood, Mo. On Feb. 7, 2008, a gunman barged into a council meeting and fatally shot six people, including the mayor, two council members and two police officers.

Cox’s proposal, in addition to allowing council members to come armed to meetings, would let citizens carry guns into City Hall at all times except during council meetings. State law prohibits that act, but part of Cox’s plan is to seek permission from the Missouri General Assembly to allow an individual city to decide the issue on its own.

The package would allow any person age 21 and over to transport a firearm in his or her vehicle as long as it is legally possessed, even if that person does not have a conceal and carry permit.

When Cox, an attorney, first proposed the package, it passed 6-2. At a later meeting, it slipped to 5-3. Mayor Juan Alonzo vetoed the measure, and the council could not override it.

The mayor’s action fired up the pro-gun crowd. Two of the “no” votes, including Lewis, were defeated in the April election. Alonzo survived, but the new council overrode a second veto.

To reach Donald Bradley, call 816-234-4182 or send e-mail to dbradley@kcstar.com.

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/07/26/2109629/raymore-gun-issue-will-be-on-nov.html

Steve

Broondog
07-27-2010, 12:25 PM
i shall be watching this.

but this is already state law.....

The package would allow any person age 21 and over to transport a firearm in his or her vehicle as long as it is legally possessed, even if that person does not have a conceal and carry permit.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5710000030.HTM



571.030. 1. A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly:
(1) Carries concealed upon or about his or her person a knife, a firearm, a blackjack or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use;

Subdivision (1) of subsection 1 of this section does not apply to any person twenty-one years of age or older transporting a concealable firearm in the passenger compartment of a motor vehicle, so long as such concealable firearm is otherwise lawfully possessed,

i wonder why this was included in the Raymore, MO issue? besides, the only firearm related issue that can be restricted by political subdivisions in MO vs state law is mode of carry, ie: Open Carry. and we are trying to change that. maybe next year.

Gunreference1
10-22-2010, 12:22 AM
Posted on Fri, Oct. 22, 2010 12:03 AM

Showdown looms for Raymore gun law

By DONALD BRADLEY
The Kansas City Star

The debate over the upcoming gun election in Raymore makes it sound like the city has an abnormally high rate of mental instability.

Both sides talk a lot about “crazy” people.

The anti-gun crowd worries that a City Council member could go “crazy” during a contentious meeting, pull a gun and start shooting. The pro-gun forces fear a “crazy,” irate citizen may come through the door blasting and a well-armed council may be the last line of defense.

To read the rest of the story click the link below.

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/10/21/2341462/showdown-looms-for-raymore-gun.html

Steve

Gunreference1
10-27-2010, 04:13 AM
Posted on Tue, Oct. 26, 2010 10:15 PM

Gun issue keeps percolating in Raymore

By DONALD BRADLEY
The Kansas City Star

The gun issue that keeps on firing...

It started a year ago when Raymore City Council member Jeff Cox introduced a plan to give council members the right to carry concealed weapons during meetings. It also allowed citizens to carry concealed weapons into city buildings and parks.

The measure passed the council, but by not enough margin to override a veto by Mayor Juan Alonzo. In April, though, two opponents of Cox’s proposal were defeated by gun-friendly forces.

To read the rest of the story click the link below.

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/10/26/2355412/gun-issue-keeps-percolating-in.html

Steve