old Grump
02-21-2011, 04:57 PM
Thursday, 10th February 2011
That fine blogger Elder of Ziyon (http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2011/02/palestine-papers-jews-legally-own-land.html) has a great scoop in the shape of a ‘Palestine Paper’ that the Guardian unaccountably chose not to reveal. The PLO, no less, recorded the legal rights of Jews to land they owned prior to 1948 -- some of which they had bought from the Arabs -- in areas now considered beyond the 1967 border (in reality, the 1948 ceasefire lines; Israel has never had proper ‘borders’ because the war of extermination against it has never actually ended). Elder writes:
...in 2008 the PLO wrote a paper (http://www.ajtransparency.com/en/document/3369)describing the legal rights of Jews to lands that they owned prior to 1948.The intent was to have a position ready in case Israel brought the issue up in negotiations. It was not presented to Israel.
It is astonishing to read paragraphs like these from the PLO:
Jews who owned land have the right to have their land restored to them or to be compensated, if restitution is not materially possible. Jews are entitled to compensation for other material and non-material losses, including lost profits, lost income, etc. caused by their displacement and dispossession.
Some of the parts are fascinating. For example, it describes (and implicitly supports) the bigoted British policy of severely restricting the rights of Jews - and only Jews - to buy land before 1948...
It was of course Jews -- and only Jews -- to whom the British had a legal obligation under the Mandate to settle throughout Palestine -- including in the very same ‘occupied’ territories that the British, who tore up their treaty obligations to the Jews, now claim ad nauseam Israel is occupying illegally. Elder continues:
Between 1948 and 1967, Jordan and Egypt essentially confiscated Jewish-owned land, against international humanitarian law... Finally, the document describes some specific lands indisputably owned by Jews - even according to the Palestinian Arabs.
[L]and located on Mount Scopus...was purchased from a British national in 1916. Boris Goldberg, a member of Lovers of Zion, paid for the land and took title in his name.51 He gifted the land to the JNF, which gave a 999-year lease to Hebrew University.52 Additional land was purchased on Mount Scopus from Raghib al-Nashashibi, Mayor of Jerusalem, and was used for the Hebrew University. Hadassah Hospital was also built on land purchased on Mount Scopus.
...By 1946, the JNF acquired 72,300 dunums in the Gaza district, which encompassed more than present-day Gaza.
In 1930, a Jewish farmer from Rehovot, Tuvia Miller, bought 262 dunums of land in Dayr al-Balah in the Gaza sub-district. Miller eventually sold his land to the JNF in the early 1940s. The JNF then allowed settlers from the religious Ha-Poel ha-Mizrahi movement to build the kibbutz of Kfar Darom on the land in October 1946. They abandoned the kibbutz in June 1948.59
Stein reports a purchase of 4,048 dunums in Huj (Gaza sub-district) in 1935 but does not indicate the identity of the Jewish purchaser.60 Note, however, that the Palestine Partition Commission reported that, by 1938, only 3,300 dunums in Gaza were owned by Jews. 61 In 1941, 6,373 dunums were purchased by the JNF around Gaza City, though it is unknown whether the purchase was permissible under the Land Transfer Regulations 1940.
The government of Palestine estimated a population of 3,540 Jews in the Gaza sub-district at the end of 1946. Information has not been found on the circumstances under which these Jews departed from Gaza in 1948.
Anyone like to hazard a guess?
Would all those shrieking ‘illegal’ at Israel over the ‘settlements’ care to, uh, synchronise their statements with the Palestinians? Or is it one law for everyone but another altogether for the Jews?
Don't all answer at once.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/6689680/the-palestine-paper-that-got-away.thtml
Somebody please explain to me how its all the Jews fault and how they are the big bullies when they are in their ancestral homeland outnumbered 1.5 billion Muslims to 4.9 million Jews. Israel has 7.7 million people but 20% are Arabs who are more prosperous then their neighbors in the Arab countries surrounding them. The teeny pin headed simple minded morons who think all the worlds problems are in Jerusalem and not Mecca should be castrated to get them out of the gene pool.
That fine blogger Elder of Ziyon (http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2011/02/palestine-papers-jews-legally-own-land.html) has a great scoop in the shape of a ‘Palestine Paper’ that the Guardian unaccountably chose not to reveal. The PLO, no less, recorded the legal rights of Jews to land they owned prior to 1948 -- some of which they had bought from the Arabs -- in areas now considered beyond the 1967 border (in reality, the 1948 ceasefire lines; Israel has never had proper ‘borders’ because the war of extermination against it has never actually ended). Elder writes:
...in 2008 the PLO wrote a paper (http://www.ajtransparency.com/en/document/3369)describing the legal rights of Jews to lands that they owned prior to 1948.The intent was to have a position ready in case Israel brought the issue up in negotiations. It was not presented to Israel.
It is astonishing to read paragraphs like these from the PLO:
Jews who owned land have the right to have their land restored to them or to be compensated, if restitution is not materially possible. Jews are entitled to compensation for other material and non-material losses, including lost profits, lost income, etc. caused by their displacement and dispossession.
Some of the parts are fascinating. For example, it describes (and implicitly supports) the bigoted British policy of severely restricting the rights of Jews - and only Jews - to buy land before 1948...
It was of course Jews -- and only Jews -- to whom the British had a legal obligation under the Mandate to settle throughout Palestine -- including in the very same ‘occupied’ territories that the British, who tore up their treaty obligations to the Jews, now claim ad nauseam Israel is occupying illegally. Elder continues:
Between 1948 and 1967, Jordan and Egypt essentially confiscated Jewish-owned land, against international humanitarian law... Finally, the document describes some specific lands indisputably owned by Jews - even according to the Palestinian Arabs.
[L]and located on Mount Scopus...was purchased from a British national in 1916. Boris Goldberg, a member of Lovers of Zion, paid for the land and took title in his name.51 He gifted the land to the JNF, which gave a 999-year lease to Hebrew University.52 Additional land was purchased on Mount Scopus from Raghib al-Nashashibi, Mayor of Jerusalem, and was used for the Hebrew University. Hadassah Hospital was also built on land purchased on Mount Scopus.
...By 1946, the JNF acquired 72,300 dunums in the Gaza district, which encompassed more than present-day Gaza.
In 1930, a Jewish farmer from Rehovot, Tuvia Miller, bought 262 dunums of land in Dayr al-Balah in the Gaza sub-district. Miller eventually sold his land to the JNF in the early 1940s. The JNF then allowed settlers from the religious Ha-Poel ha-Mizrahi movement to build the kibbutz of Kfar Darom on the land in October 1946. They abandoned the kibbutz in June 1948.59
Stein reports a purchase of 4,048 dunums in Huj (Gaza sub-district) in 1935 but does not indicate the identity of the Jewish purchaser.60 Note, however, that the Palestine Partition Commission reported that, by 1938, only 3,300 dunums in Gaza were owned by Jews. 61 In 1941, 6,373 dunums were purchased by the JNF around Gaza City, though it is unknown whether the purchase was permissible under the Land Transfer Regulations 1940.
The government of Palestine estimated a population of 3,540 Jews in the Gaza sub-district at the end of 1946. Information has not been found on the circumstances under which these Jews departed from Gaza in 1948.
Anyone like to hazard a guess?
Would all those shrieking ‘illegal’ at Israel over the ‘settlements’ care to, uh, synchronise their statements with the Palestinians? Or is it one law for everyone but another altogether for the Jews?
Don't all answer at once.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/6689680/the-palestine-paper-that-got-away.thtml
Somebody please explain to me how its all the Jews fault and how they are the big bullies when they are in their ancestral homeland outnumbered 1.5 billion Muslims to 4.9 million Jews. Israel has 7.7 million people but 20% are Arabs who are more prosperous then their neighbors in the Arab countries surrounding them. The teeny pin headed simple minded morons who think all the worlds problems are in Jerusalem and not Mecca should be castrated to get them out of the gene pool.