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Warthogg
04-18-2011, 03:19 PM
New York (AP) - Standard & Poor's Ratings Service cut its outlook Monday on the United States' sovereign debt, saying there is a one in three chance it will downgrade the rating on the debt in the next two years.

The agency lowered the long-term outlook to "Negative" from "Stable."

It reaffirmed its investment-grade credit ratings on the U.S. long- and short-term debt itself, but said the ratings are at risk from the country's growing deficit.

S&P said the U.S. has a high-income, diversified and flexible economy that has helped it to encourage growth while containing inflation.

But the country's ballooning deficit could offset those positives over the next two years.

The agency noted that the deficit grew to 11 per cent of gross domestic income in 2009. That is much higher than the average of two per cent to five per cent in the previous six years.



S&P said it has little confidence that the White House and Congress will agree on a deficit-reduction plan before the fall 2012 elections. By that time, the measures won't go into effect until the fiscal year 2014.

The time must be close for S&P to actually make the move to change their rating from "STABLE" (HA !!) to "NEGATIVE".

When FINALLY Japan's rating was lowered I did opine a move to lower US debt rating was prolly in the offing. Still think that is true. With the reduction in Japan's rating, S&P's lowering their long-term outlook on the US, can a lower credit rating be far in the future ?? I think not far at all.

Always good to remember that S&P, Moody's, etc., etc......all these basically worthless rating agencies are paid by the entities they rate !! No conflicts of course,


Wart


S&P said the U.S. has a high-income, diversified and flexible economy that has helped it to encourage growth while containing inflation.


Inflation is not "contained" just hidden. Easy thing to do when energy and food are not included in the core CPI.

ATAK, Inc.
04-18-2011, 03:25 PM
I've had a negative view of the US debt for quite a few years now, about time they got on board!

imanaknut
04-18-2011, 04:05 PM
Funny because it still gives the US a Triple A rating!

Warthogg
04-18-2011, 04:47 PM
Funny because it still gives the US a Triple A rating!


Standard & Poor’s continued to rate a host of mortgage-backed securities AAA right up to the point when they detonated in 2007-08.

“A huge part of the reason the U.S. is in its awful financial position,” writes our friend Barry Ritholtz, author of Bailout Nation, this morning, “is due to the fine work of S&P. The ‘negative outlook’ of U.S. debt has come about because of the inability of Standard & Poor’s to have performed their jobs rating mortgage-backed securities.

“Ultimately, this enabled the entire crisis, financial collapse, enormous budget deficit and now political [squabble] over the debt ceiling.”

Of all the AAA-rated subprime MBS issued in 2006, 93% are now junk

2008 and before for two Lakers courtside seats you could have your favorite pet rated AAA by these worthless f***s.

TERRIBLE system. The companies these people rate pay them. No chance of a conflcit of interest with thatSYSTEM!


Wart

Warthogg
04-19-2011, 01:43 AM
S&P Rating Action: Count on the United States to Do the Right Thing—After It Exhausts All Other Alternatives

By Arnab Das and Nouriel Roubini


Apr 18, 201110:25:00 PM | Last Updated


The landmark S&P downgrade of its U.S. government debt outlook reinforces what we have been saying since 2010: The United States is on an unsustainable fiscal path from which it cannot exit without political consensus


Nouriel Roubini usually has it right.


Wart

mriddick
04-19-2011, 05:41 AM
Hopefully it's another reason for Washington to get serous about fixing this mess.

Warthogg
04-19-2011, 02:33 PM
Hopefully it's another reason for Washington to get serous about fixing this mess.

On the "another reason" to get serious certainly I agree.

UNLESS the actual goal is to destroy the dollar and issue a new world wide fiat currency through the IMF. If that's what is really happening, then Washington is already seriously going about its real business.


Wart

Warthogg
04-19-2011, 04:37 PM
UNLESS the actual goal is to destroy the dollar and issue a new world wide fiat currency through the IMF. If that's what is really happening, then Washington is already seriously going about its real business.


Wart

Wellll, the University of Texas just took 'physical possession' of about $1 billion in gold bars.

I'm gonna count that news as a CLUE !!




Over the weekend, an announcement was made that the University of Texas endowment fund had decided to take delivery of $1 billion worth of gold. This was an absolutely huge development on multiple fronts.

First, the UT endowment fund’s gold purchase was a radical deviation from the standard institutional portfolio, the possibility of which we have considered for some time. Since UT has about $20 billion in assets, a $1 billion gold allocation would indicate 5% of its assets in gold. The standard institutional allocation to gold is 1%; a 5% allocation is a huge increase. If (or in our opinion, when) other institutions adopt a similar stance, the price of gold will skyrocket.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/264230-university-of-texas-gold-buy-is-a-game-changer

Wart