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    Russian aircraft carrier enroute to Syria.

    If they have any intentions of striking Syria, they better hurry before it gets there. The sinking of a Russian warship in the crossfire would not end well.
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    http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16129689

    The Kuznetsov was being monitored by HMS York 30 miles off the coast of Fife, Scotland, in international waters.

    But the Voice of Russia said that its task would be to join an exercise in the Mediterranean.

    This will include a visit to Tartus, a Syrian port where Russia has a resupply base.

    The news came as the United Nations accused Assad and his regime of the murder of 5,000 of his own citizens

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    Sinking that heap of a carrier would be a waste of good ordinance !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidelski View Post
    Sinking that heap of a carrier would be a waste of good ordinance !!!
    Ships are hard to sink, it would be good target practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old Grump View Post
    Ships are hard to sink, it would be good target practice.
    Okay, you're correct! It would make good target practice for the USN, might as well perforate that destroyer too. Hopefully the Kremlin has a sub shadowing their carrier, it would give our HSL squadrons something to play with...

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    That little Russian "Carrier" is so damn cute!
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    Admiral Kuznetsov:
    Launched: 5 December 1985
    Displacement: 58,600 Tons (Full Load)
    Length: 1,005.5 ft
    Beam: 237.2 ft

    Machinery:
    8 Steam Turbines delivering 200,000 SHP
    Range: 8500 NM
    Endurance: 45 Days

    Crew: 1,993 (w/ Aircrews)

    Armement:
    8 × AK-630 AA guns (6×30 mm, 6,000 round/min/mount, 24,000 rounds kinda Like our own CIWS)
    8 × CADS-N-1 Kashtan CIWS (each 2 × 30 mm Gatling AA plus 32 3K87 Kortik SAM Another CIWS Mount)
    12 × P-700 Granit SSM (This is the one weapon here that IS a threat to our Surface Groups)
    18 × 8-cell 3K95 Kinzhal SAM VLS (192 missiles; 1 missile per 3 seconds Air defence MIssile System)
    RBU-12000 UDAV-1 ASW rocket launchers (60 rockets Anti Submarine)


    Aircraft:
    41-52
    Fixed Wing:
    14 × Su-33 fighters
    OR
    28 × MiG-29K fighters
    4 × Sukhoi Su-25UTG/UBP aircraft
    Rotary Wing:
    4 × Kamov Ka-27LD32 helicopters
    11 × Kamov Ka-27PLO helicopters
    2 × Kamov Ka-27S helicopters

    Looks like a decent small aircraft Carrier that doubles as a Guided Missile Cruiser, like it was designed to act as its own escort. The ship is due a Refit atthe end of this year for Modernization. It could have the SU-33 or the new MiG 29k Carrier based fighters, the SU-33 is no longer in production, but I'm not sure of the new MiGs are actually being built yet; could be a mix. That Granit weapons system is excellent from all the reviews, at least in practice. It was designed to defeat our Aegis Defensive screens.

    It would be no match for our Navy, but would cause some damage on its way to see Old Hob.
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    Now, the only thing the Nimitz needs is a pair of these hanging off the stern:

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    There has been a US submarine - fast attack; nuclear - with the carrier since it left port.


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    Well, this may be Obamas moment to show just what kind of metal he has. Anybody want to make bets?

    Nice post btw Mark.

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    There are two things here:

    1. The Syrian issue with internal revolt, turmoil, violence, etc. Is it fucked up? Are bad things happening? Yes to both, obviously. Is it in US interests to intervene. NO!
    Just like we didn't intervene in Tiananmen Square in China in '89 or Rwanda in '94 or Tehran in '08 or wherever else. We can't fix everything everywhere, nor should we try to.

    2. The Russion naval visit to Syria. Given #1 above, who cares? We could sink it at will with a variety of weapons, if needed. Why would we need to? How will this visit threaten US interests to the point that we are willing to engage in war over it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altarboy View Post
    Well, this may be Obamas moment to show just what kind of metal he has. Anybody want to make bets?

    Nice post btw Mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2K View Post
    The Syrian issue with internal revolt, turmoil, violence, etc. Is it fucked up? Are bad things happening? Yes to both, obviously. Is it in US interests to intervene. NO!
    Just like we didn't intervene in Tiananmen Square in China in '89 or Rwanda in '94 or Tehran in '08 or wherever else. We can't fix everything everywhere, nor should we try to.
    OIL?
    Tiananmen Square - no
    Rwanda - no
    Tehran - no
    Syria - yes

    Need anything else be said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    OIL?
    Tiananmen Square - no
    Rwanda - no
    Tehran - no
    Syria - yes

    Need anything else be said?
    Hey come on now, you forgot to add Libya.

    Libya-yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2K View Post
    How will this visit threaten US interests to the point that we are willing to engage in war over it?
    Who said anything about war, we were just discussing a little friendly target practice.

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    Russia had close ties to Libya, and has very close ties with Syria and Iran, including a mutual defense agreement with Iran. I wonder how long they're going to let a community organiser rub their noses in it via another attack on one their friends.

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    Wrong target

    China's defence budget has grown 60% in just a few years and their carrier in the big stick they are showing around the world. Obummer just cut the Navy's carrier program by 80% that's not just new ships but maintaining the fleet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ1 View Post
    China's defence budget has grown 60% in just a few years and their carrier in the big stick they are showing around the world. Obummer just cut the Navy's carrier program by 80% that's not just new ships but maintaining the fleet.

    OMG !! That liberal's got a gun !!


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