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    Cool HAHAHA! Some Christians Abandoning Girl Scouts Over Transgender Dispute

    A Colorado-based Girl Scouts troop's decision to admit a 7-year-old transgender child this fall has prompted three leaders to resign and dissolve their troops.

    As The Christian Post is reporting, all three of the troop leaders were affiliated with the Northlake Christian School in Covington, Louisiana.
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    The controversy began when Felisha Archuleta protested against a Denver troop's decision to not initially allow her transgender daughter, Bobby Montoya, to join the group. "I believe he was born in the wrong body," Archuleta, who also confessed to having difficulty switching from male to female pronouns when discussing her child, told ABC. "But the Girl Scout leader told us he can't join because he has 'boy parts.'... But no one would know he's a boy unless they pulled his pants down."

    The Girl Scouts of Colorado subsequently released a statement through the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) in support of Archuleta and her excluded daughter, noting, "If a child identifies as a girl and the child's family presents her as a girl, Girl Scouts of Colorado welcomes her as a Girl Scout."

    Added Rachelle Trujillo, vice president for communications of the Colorado Girl Scouts: "If a child is living as a girl, that's good enough for us. We don't require any proof of gender."
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    The Girl Scouts are a lot more progressive and tolerant as an organization than the Boy Scouts, who still won't allow gays and atheists to openly participate.

    They'll eventually open up though. Bigotry is so 20th century.

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    Oh LAGC, you are so entertaining. Time and time and time again you confuse an inability to recognize behavior or belief that is destructive to the individual or society with maturity or enlightenment. Sometimes your opinions are so transparently childish that I find it hard to believe you're old enough to have done time in anything other than the juvenile detention system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergis Bauer View Post
    Oh LAGC, you are so entertaining. Time and time and time again you confuse an inability to recognize behavior or belief that is destructive to the individual or society with maturity or enlightenment.
    Be honest with me, what's so destructive about letting a girl trapped in a boy's body be her natural self?

    Personally, I think its kind of silly they even separate the sexes. They should just merge the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts and just call them "Scouts" and be all inclusive. Indeed, that may be where we are headed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1163971.html

    The Girl Scouts are a lot more progressive and tolerant as an organization than the Boy Scouts, who still won't allow gays and atheists to openly participate.

    They'll eventually open up though. Bigotry is so 20th century.

    Scouting and our military both have "problems" with "gay" and "transgendered" people because they are the few remaining organizations in America that have any honor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Personally, I think its kind of silly they even separate the sexes.
    Sure. Boys and girls are SO similar... why separate them?

    Good grief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1163971.html

    The Girl Scouts are a lot more progressive and tolerant as an organization than the Boy Scouts, who still won't allow gays and atheists to openly participate.

    They'll eventually open up though. Bigotry is so 20th century.

    And that's the way Scouting is supposed to be. Girl, notice the word Girl in Girlscout. Transgender means a homo with a dick that thinks he's a girl. This person has no place in Girlscouts. I suspect that Girlscouting leadership is infiltraited by Lesbians and so the "Progressive" (depraved) nature of their judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Bigotry is so 20th century.

    Yeah- we've SO evolved past such petty behaviors. ....PROGRESS....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    Sure. Boys and girls are SO similar... why separate them?

    Good grief.
    Well, its not like it hasn't been done before. In Communist countries, their youth groups are generally mixed gender.

    Is there really any activity in Boy Scouts that a girl could not do? And vice versa, any activity in Girl Scouts that a boy could not do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Be honest with me, what's so destructive about letting a girl trapped in a boy's body be her natural self?
    So, do you believe that gay people are born gay as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    So, do you believe that gay people are born gay as well?
    Actually I do. I know I was born straight, had a thing for the girls even in 1st grade. You might have some that experiment as teens I guess but true homosexuals are wired that way from birth. It is a birth defect but still I don't give it a pass for homo men joining women's groups and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Is there really any activity in Boy Scouts that a girl could not do? And vice versa, any activity in Girl Scouts that a boy could not do?
    Well, I know Girl Scouts can't write their names in the snow.....
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    Since the lesbians took over much of the girl scouts national committee the membership has eroded. They have had large numbers of underage girls propositioned and coerced into sex by councilors and leaders. The law suits have been rampant as have criminal charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuetzenman View Post
    Actually I do. I know I was born straight, had a thing for the girls even in 1st grade. You might have some that experiment as teens I guess but true homosexuals are wired that way from birth. It is a birth defect but still I don't give it a pass for homo men joining women's groups and vice versa.
    Here's my point

    The argument here is that they are "born in the wrong body", but the argument is also that "people are born gay", it can't possibly be both. People are either born the way they're supposed to be or they're not. If people are born the way they're supposed to be than gay people are right and the "transgender" are wrong, If people can be born the way they're not supposed to be then the "transgender" are right and gays are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    So, do you believe that gay people are born gay as well?
    I think that's been pretty well established, which is why the American Psychological Association dropped homosexuality from its list of "mental illnesses" several decades ago.

    I don't see any reason why people would "choose" to be attracted to a member of the same sex, with all the stigma that entails, unless they were hard-wired that way to begin with. Same with girls trapped in boy's bodies, and vice versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    I think that's been pretty well established, which is why the American Psychological Association dropped homosexuality from its list of "mental illnesses" several decades ago.

    I don't see any reason why people would "choose" to be attracted to a member of the same sex, with all the stigma that entails, unless they were hard-wired that way to begin with. Same with girls trapped in boy's bodies, and vice versa.

    True, after years of therapy it was determined that I'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body!
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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    Here's my point

    The argument here is that they are "born in the wrong body", but the argument is also that "people are born gay", it can't possibly be both. People are either born the way they're supposed to be or they're not. If people are born the way they're supposed to be than gay people are right and the "transgender" are wrong, If people can be born the way they're not supposed to be then the "transgender" are right and gays are wrong.
    Well, I think the point is that gender has to do with a lot more than just what body parts we are born with. It's the way our brains are wired that determines whether we prefer "boy" things or "girl" things.

    I mean, when some little boys prefer to play with dolls and some little girls prefer to play with guns, where do those urges come from? It's not like they were taught to want those things, it's part of who they are. The way God made them.

    Unless you think God makes mistakes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Well, I think the point is that gender has to do with a lot more than just what body parts we are born with. It's the way our brains are wired that determines whether we prefer "boy" things or "girl" things.

    I mean, when some little boys prefer to play with dolls and some little girls prefer to play with guns, where do those urges come from? It's not like they were taught to want those things, it's part of who they are. The way God made them.

    Unless you think God makes mistakes...
    Surprise of all surprises, you've managed to completely sidestepped the argument. Congrats on your perfect bunting average!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Well, its not like it hasn't been done before. In Communist countries, their youth groups are generally mixed gender.
    And [DRUM ROLL] LAGC one again uses a demonstrably failed system to back up his idiotic opinions. Are you completely oblivious to what an abject failure communism has been socially, economically, and culturally? Ever wonder why the Soviet empire collapsed? Or why the wall that once stood around East Germany, and the one that still encloses North Korea, were primarily designed to keep their citizens LOCKED IN, rather than keep an enemy out?

    As I've said so many times that I'm tempted to save time and just make it my signature: LAGC, you prove your stupidity with every word you write.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    I think that's been pretty well established, which is why the American Psychological Association dropped homosexuality from its list of "mental illnesses" several decades ago.

    I don't see any reason why people would "choose" to be attracted to a member of the same sex, with all the stigma that entails, unless they were hard-wired that way to begin with. Same with girls trapped in boy's bodies, and vice versa.
    I imagine pedophiles don't choose to be attracted to children, nor do serial killers choose to have a desire to kill and torture their fellow human beings. Since their desires are not their choice, should we be supportive of their needs for personal fulfillment, or should we agree that their natural tendencies are destructive to society and strive to prevent them from acting on their compulsions? I, as most reasonable people, would choose the latter. Given the arguments you've made earlier in this thread, I think it's pretty clear which side your train of logic leads to.

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