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    Richard Dawkins goes after Tim Tebow.

    First Bill Maher and now Dawkins.

    Here is Dawkins attacking Tebow. Richard Dawkins is so inconsistent some atheist are staying away from him.

    http://richarddawkins.net/articles/5...-tebow-fallacy

    Compare to this ESPN article about what kind of person Tebow is off the field.

    http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7...ving-tim-tebow

    While liberal anti-Christian elitist like Maher and Dawkins are getting rich, Tebow is dedicating his time and money into making people's lives a little better.

    You know when Jesus was carrying the cross he was being beaten and ridiculed. He didn't ask for. nor accept mercy. He even told the women of Jerusalem to cry for their children, not for him. When they put him on the cross he asked forgiveness for those killing him. While he was raised up on the cross to save the world, there were people still trying to bring his spirits down. Jesus refused to curse them. If you ever notice..when great men rise up to do something great...there is always some whiner trying to bring him down.

    Tebow seems to really be living what he preaches. Instead of wasting time trying to refute guys like Maher and Dawkins...he would rather spend it in a hospital with sick children or spending time with an inmate. Jesus taught us to turn the other cheek, and to shake the dust from our shoes when people reject the message. Because if your wasting time with those who reject the message...then your missing valuable time with those who need it most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by was_peacemaker View Post
    Tebow .... would rather spend......time with an inmate.
    Would be hard to play in the NFL and not spend time with inmates or former inmates.

    Saint Tim has a long way to fall.


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    Quote Originally Posted by was_peacemaker View Post
    First Bill Maher and now Dawkins.

    Here is Dawkins attacking Tebow. Richard Dawkins is so inconsistent some atheist are staying away from him.

    http://richarddawkins.net/articles/5...-tebow-fallacy
    Did you even read that article? First of all, its almost 2 years old. And Dawkins wasn't so much attacking Tebow as he was the fallacious idea that women practicing abortion is more responsible for stopping famous people from coming into the world than just plain sexual abstinence is.

    By Timmy's logic, we should all start fucking like rabbits and pop as many kids out as we can like the OctoMom and all go on welfare since we can't support all those babies -- after all, who knows if one of those potential babies might not be the next big football star? (Of course, they could grow up to be a serial rapist or mass murderer as well... I mean, wouldn't it have been nice if Hitler's mom had aborted him, or just not had sex in the first place?)

    Bottom line is, its silly to suggest that abortion (or abstinence) is stopping famous people coming into the world, because its just as likely its stopping infamous people from coming into the world as well.

    Compare to this ESPN article about what kind of person Tebow is off the field.

    http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7...ving-tim-tebow

    While liberal anti-Christian elitist like Maher and Dawkins are getting rich, Tebow is dedicating his time and money into making people's lives a little better.
    I do have to wonder how charitable Tim Tebow would be if he didn't think he was scoring brownie points with his god watching the whole time. But I will give him that he does more for his image by just being kind to others than engaging in polarizing political ads that piss people off and really turn people off to his message.

    You know when Jesus was carrying the cross he was being beaten and ridiculed. He didn't ask for. nor accept mercy. He even told the women of Jerusalem to cry for their children, not for him. When they put him on the cross he asked forgiveness for those killing him. While he was raised up on the cross to save the world, there were people still trying to bring his spirits down. Jesus refused to curse them. If you ever notice..when great men rise up to do something great...there is always some whiner trying to bring him down.
    Mmm-hmm. And God, who is supposed to be all knowing, went down to Earth in human form KNOWING he'd be put to death by those evil Jews, and that somehow is a sacrifice that saved every one? Why didn't God, in all his mercy, just plain forgive everyone for the supposed "sins" of Adam and Eve (whom science proves didn't even live at the same time) who dared eat from a "forbidden" tree because a talking snake tricked them into it?

    Any sort of god that plays these kinds of juvenile mind games is no god I'd care to believe in, let alone worship, thank you very much.
    "That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E

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    Don't worry sports are always a 50/50 proposition with the players enjoying a limited time at peak performance. I'm sure we will see how well he does when the winning stops and he's no longer employed as a high profile sports star.

    I don't watch sports, I'm not all that religious but I think it's a good story and I don't get the attacks on him.
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    People are in a pretty sad state of mind when they would rather cheer on athletes that are criminals, whore-mongers, thugs, druggies, racists etc. than someone that is a Christian helping others and trying to be a good role model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher View Post
    People are in a pretty sad state of mind when they would rather cheer on athletes that are criminals, whore-mongers, thugs, druggies, racists etc. than someone that is a Christian helping others and trying to be a good role model.
    For real.

    Weather or not the guy is annoying to some people, I'd rather see football players engaged in philantropy that say, underground dog fighting?

    But that's just me...

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    True, who really cares what his personal beliefs are or what he decides to display in regard to those beliefs as long as they don't break the rules of the game or get in the way of it. Few seem to care how hedonistic others are in the game, so this guy gets down on one knee every once in a while and thanks God at press conferences, is it really that bad?

    I believe it does show the typical liberal mindset of trying to limit the personal beliefs of others if they find them in conflict with their own. I've noted before where ever liberals are in the majority personal freedoms seem to suffer and this shows that in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mriddick View Post
    I believe it does show the typical liberal mindset of trying to limit the personal beliefs of others if they find them in conflict with their own.
    Who's trying to limit him? Tim Tebow has the right to make as big of a spectacle out of himself as he wants, but its just as much others' right to ridicule him for being a pompous ass, showing off in front of everybody. I thought that Saturday Night Live sketch making fun of him was brilliant!



    And spot on too, considering he lost that following Christmas Eve game!



    That's the cool thing about free speech -- it works both ways.

    I've noted before where ever liberals are in the majority personal freedoms seem to suffer and this shows that in action.
    Oh? Personal freedoms like women being able to control their own bodies and adults being able to marry whomever they want? Those kinds of personal freedoms?
    "That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Oh? Personal freedoms like women being able to control their own bodies and adults being able to marry whomever they want? Those kinds of personal freedoms?
    Ownership of firearms, being able to eat what they want, etc... Is a person more or less free in say San Francisco then say Louisville KY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mriddick View Post
    Ownership of firearms, being able to eat what they want, etc... Is a person more or less free in say San Francisco then say Louisville KY?
    Probably not, but that has more to do with living in a big city versus a less populated areas. Whenever you have people more concentrated in one area, its only natural that more restrictive laws will follow. Higher local option taxes, nanny city ordinances like no smoking in public, etc.

    Even when the Democrats controlled Congress in 2007-2009, gun control didn't get through because there were many Democrats from rural states who didn't subscribe to that big city non-sense.

    And likewise, big city Republicans like Rudy Guliani and Mikey Bloomberg are just as big of assholes with no respect for the Bill of Rights as any other.
    "That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Did you even read that article? First of all, its almost 2 years old. And Dawkins wasn't so much attacking Tebow as he was the fallacious idea that women practicing abortion is more responsible for stopping famous people from coming into the world than just plain sexual abstinence is.

    Yes I did read the articles. Dawkins wrote this when Tim was coming out of college and was nationally famous and it was well known what kind of character he had. Dawkins himself can't stay consistent and never really has, but he has become the idol for the proselytizing "New Age Atheists". Even his own peers in science have started to distance themselves from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by was_peacemaker View Post
    Yes I did read the articles. Dawkins wrote this when Tim was coming out of college and was nationally famous and it was well known what kind of character he had. Dawkins himself can't stay consistent and never really has, but he has become the idol for the proselytizing "New Age Atheists". Even his own peers in science have started to distance themselves from him.
    Really? Because most scientists I know have a lot of respect for him as a leading biologist in his field. It's really no accident that most scientists are atheists. The more that people study nature the less they tend to find any sort of "higher power" necessary in explaining how things work.

    Granted, some of his colleagues (not just scientists, but atheists as well) have criticized him for being so blatantly anti-religion, not just disbelieving but going out of his way to ridicule people of faith. But in this world of evangelical Christians and Muslims working so hard to convert people to their cause, I have no problem if atheists get a little "uppity" and vocal, and plant some seeds of doubt as well. I still don't think you'll see them going door-to-door soliciting you at home though, like the Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses do.
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    "That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Really? Because most scientists I know



    I still don't think you'll see them going door-to-door soliciting you at home though, like the Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses do.
    I seriously doubt you know any scientist.

    Unlike you, who waste band width on this site with your constant hauranging against religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N/A View Post
    I seriously doubt you know any scientist.
    Several relatives on my mom's side of the family are scientists of one sort or the other. I know quite a few at the local atheist meet-ups as well. And of course, all those who publish their views on the WWW.

    Unlike you, who waste band width on this site with your constant hauranging against religion.
    The Internet has been one of the greatest gifts in spreading disbelief and skepticism since Darwin published the Origin of Species. Check out this graph:



    Notice the "Nones" didn't start really taking off until after the Internet did in the mid-1990's.

    Imagine where we will be in 50 years at this rate...



    Once all the old folks with their backwards views die off, the next generation will take over.

    Can't happen too soon.
    "That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Several relatives on my mom's side of the family are scientists of one sort or the other. I know quite a few at the local atheist meet-ups as well. And of course, all those who publish their views on the WWW.


    Well, as we all know, we can claim anything on here. Care to give some bonafides about these scientists so we can look them up....on the www of course.

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    Sure, here you go:

    A study has shown atheism in the West to be particularly prevalent among scientists, a tendency already quite marked at the beginning of the 20th century, developing into a dominant one during the course of the century. In 1914, James H. Leuba found that 58% of 1,000 randomly selected U.S. natural scientists expressed "disbelief or doubt in the existence of God" (defined as a personal God which interacts directly with human beings). The same study, repeated in 1996, gave a similar percentage of 60.7%. Expressions of positive disbelief rose from 52% to 72%.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...c_distribution

    Comparison of survey answers among "greater" scientists

    Belief in personal God 1914 1933 1998
    Personal belief 27.7 15.0 7.0
    Personal disbelief 52.7 68.0 72.2
    Doubt or agnosticism 20.9 17.0 20.8
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    Belief in human immortality 1914 1933 1998
    Personal belief 35.2 18.0 7.9
    Personal disbelief 25.4 53.0 76.7
    Doubt or agnosticism 43.7 29.0 23.3
    Figures are percentages.
    http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Scientists_and_atheism
    "That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E

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    No, names and particular kind of science they work in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N/A View Post
    No, names and particular kind of science they work in.
    Ask and ye shall receive:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...and_technology

    Peter Atkins (1940–): English chemist, Professor of chemistry at Lincoln College, Oxford in England.[1]
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    Richard J. Roberts (1943–): British biochemist and molecular biologist. He won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1993 for the discovery of introns in eukaryotic DNA and the mechanism of gene-splicing.[99][100][101]
    Steven Rose (1938–): Professor of Biology and Neurobiology at the Open University and University of London, and author of several popular science books.[102]
    Marshall Rosenbluth (1927–2003) American physicist, nicknamed "the Pope of Plasma Physics". He created the Metropolis algorithm in statistical mechanics, derived the Rosenbluth formula in high-energy physics, and laid the foundations for instability theory in plasma physics.[103]
    Oliver Sacks (1933–): United States-based British neurologist, who has written popular books about his patients, the most famous of which is Awakenings.[104]
    Carl Sagan (1934–1996): American astronomer and astrochemist, a highly successful popularizer of astronomy, astrophysics, and other natural sciences, and pioneer of exobiology and promoter of the SETI. Although Sagan has been identified as an atheist according to some definitions,[105][106][107] he rejected the label, stating "An atheist has to know a lot more than I know."[105] He was an agnostic who,[108] while maintaining that the idea of a creator of the universe was difficult to disprove,[109] nevertheless disbelieved in God's existence, pending sufficient evidence.[110]
    Robert Sapolsky (1957–): Professor of Biological Sciences and Professor of Neurology and Neurological Sciences at Stanford University.[111]
    Marcus du Sautoy (1965–): mathematician and holder of the Charles Simonyi Chair for the Public Understanding of Science.[112]
    Amartya Kumar Sen (1933–): 1998 Nobel Laureate in Economics.[113][114][115][116]
    Claude Shannon (1916–2001): American electrical engineer and mathematician, has been called "the father of information theory", and was the founder of practical digital circuit design theory.[117]
    Edwin Shneidman (1918–2009): American suicidologist and thanatologist.[118]
    Michael Smith (1932–2000): British-born Canadian biochemist and Nobel Laureate in Chemistry in 1993.[119]
    Richard Stallman (1953–): American software freedom activist, hacker, and software developer.[120]
    Victor J. Stenger (1935–): American physicist, emeritus professor of Physics and Astronomy at the University of Hawaii and adjunct professor of Philosophy at the University of Colorado. Author of the book God: The Failed Hypothesis.[121]
    Jack Suchet (1908–2001): South African born obstetrician, gynaecologist and venereologist, who carried out research on the use of penicillin in the treatment of venereal disease with Sir Alexander Fleming.[122]
    Eleazar Sukenik (1889–1953): Israeli archaeologist and professor of Hebrew University in Jerusalem, undertaking excavations in Jerusalem, and recognising the importance of the Dead Sea Scrolls to Israel.[123]
    Leonard Susskind (1940–): American theoretical physicist; a founding father of superstring theory and professor of theoretical physics at Stanford University.[124]
    Raymond Tallis (1946–): Leading British gerontologist, philosopher, poet, novelist and cultural critic.[125]
    Frank J. Tipler (1947–): American mathematical physicist and professor at Tulane University.[126]
    Gherman Titov (1935–2000): Soviet cosmonaut and the second human to orbit the Earth.[127]
    Linus Torvalds (1969–): Finnish software engineer, creator of the Linux kernel.[128]
    Alan Turing (1912–1954): English mathematician, logician, and cryptographer; often considered to be the father of modern computer science. The Turing Award, often recognized as the "Nobel Prize of computing", is named after him.[129][130]
    Matthew Turner (died ca. 1789): chemist, surgeon, teacher and radical theologian, author of the first published work of avowed atheism in Britain (1782).[131][132]
    J. Craig Venter (1946–): American biologist and entrepreneur, one of the first researchers to sequence the human genome, and in 2010 the first to create a cell with a synthetic genome.[133]
    W. Grey Walter (1910–1977): American neurophysiologist famous for his work on brain waves, and robotician.[134]
    James D. Watson (1928–): 1962-Nobel-laureate and co-discover of the structure of DNA.[135][136]
    Joseph Weber (1919–2000): American physicist, who gave the earliest public lecture on the principles behind the laser and the maser, and developed the first gravitational wave detectors (Weber bars).[137]
    Steven Weinberg (1933–): American theoretical physicist. He won the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1979 for the unification of electromagnetism and the weak force into the electroweak force.[138][139][140]
    David Sloan Wilson (1949–): American evolutionary biologist, son of Sloan Wilson, proponent of multilevel selection theory and author of several popular books on evolution.[141]
    E. O. Wilson (1929–): American biologist, researcher (sociobiology, biodiversity), theorist (consilience, biophilia), naturalist (conservationist) and author. His biological specialty is myrmecology, the study of ants.
    Lewis Wolpert CBE FRS FRSL (1929–): developmental biologist, author, and broadcaster.[142]
    Steve Wozniak (1950–): co-founder of Apple Computer and inventor of the Apple I and Apple II.[143]
    Elizur Wright (1804–1885): American mathematician and abolitionist, sometimes described as the "father of life insurance" for his pioneering work on actuarial tables.[144]
    Will Wright (1960–): American computer game designer and co-founder of the game development company Maxis.[145]
    Victor Weisskopf (1908–2002): Austrian-American theoretical physicist, co-founder and board member of the Union of Concerned Scientists.[146]

    (And mind you, those are just some of the ones that have "come out of the closet" about their atheism. Many more disbelieve, but just aren't vocal about it.)
    "That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E

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    was_peacemaker
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    A list from wikipedia? Come on! That is not very academic of you. In fact they don't let high school kids reference wikipedia. Back in the day I had a old IT friend who got a kick out going an edited wikipedia sites, and usually for biased reasons.

    I know when studying Jewish works I have found wikipedia to be terribly inaccurate also.

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    was_peacemaker
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    I already see an error on that list Stephen Jay Gould.

    Here is a quote from him. After having a meeting with some priests.

    "We all left satisfied, but I certainly felt bemused by the anomaly of my role as a Jewish agnostic, trying to reassure a group of Catholic priests that evolution remained both true and entirely consistent with religious belief." http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_noma.html

    Another quote from Gould. From the same link.

    "I do not doubt that one could find an occasional nun who would prefer to teach creationism in her parochial school biology class or an occasional orthodox rabbi who does the same in his yeshiva, but creationism based on biblical literalism makes little sense in either Catholicism or Judaism for neither religion maintains any extensive tradition for reading the Bible as literal truth rather than illuminating literature, based partly on metaphor and allegory (essential components of all good writing) and demanding interpretation for proper understanding. Most Protestant groups, of course, take the same position—the fundamentalist fringe notwithstanding."

    At any rate he was an Agnostic.

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