The mentallity of the anti-evil rifle Elmer Fudd. Anyone understand it yet?

[Ruskiegunlover]

just bet your guns that they cannot find ANYWHERE in the 2nd where it mentions hunting, or survival, or feeding your family. Then tell them you are an animal rights activist, and a vegan, so it offends YOU that they kill animals.

And stick to the bet. Tell them the founders generally were pretty clear about what they intended, and ask if they are expecting you to believe that they would want us at the mercy of our rulers, and not as well armed as them? Then, just shake your head at their pure stupidity, and walk away. If possible, rip through 30 rds out of an assault rifle just to piss them off.

Ha, or maybe just tell them thats fine, they can play custer with their shotgun or lever.....and we'll play the better armed indians.

[Shadow Walker]

Alismith, you are correct. The lever action was the AK-47 of its day. I dang sure would have been carrying one back then.

The movie "Soldier" shows a guy carrying a lever action with a 30-rd magazine. I have been wanting to make one like that ever since.

[Krupski]

The mentallity of the anti-evil rifle Elmer Fudd. Anyone understand it yet?

A few years ago I was at the range and two Fudds drove by and asked "how long I would be" (using that spot). I said "we have room, you can setup next to us". So, big thank yous and handshakes etc... they setup their table and brought out their shotguns and probably a grand total of 10 shotshells.

Then later I bring out my Norinco AK and bump fire it. Those guys turned corpse white, packed up their shit in 2 minutes and drove away. Oh well.

But that's not the end of the story. About 15 minutes later 2 state police cars and a regular car with a guy in a suit pulled up and told me they had a report of an "illegal full auto AK47".

I said "yup that's me, but it's not illegal and it's not full auto". I showed them bump firing, let one of the cops try firing it (I watched him pull back the trigger hard and slowly let it forward until the disconnector clicked). When they were satisfied that it was semi, they waved at the guy in the plain car and he drove away. I wonder if that guy was fucking BATFE?

Anyway, the cops were satisfied and drove away.

But, WTF? I thought those guys were FELLOW GUN OWNERS. I guess I was wrong. THEY were "sportsmen" and I was a "criminal" in their eyes...

If the SHTF, you may want to think about carrying a black rifle even if you would rather have a Kalashnikov... because those Fudd assholes will see the AK and think YOU are the bad guy.

[Krupski]

I agree, most ppl that i work with say "you need a little black rifle, u should trade ur ak in on one" and i dont want one. Its more costly to shoot, less fun, and nowhere near the nostalgia that our "evil" rifles carry. this rifle will always fire, regardless of situation, cant say that about a little black rifle....

First time I saw and tried an AK, I thought "what a cheap piece of shit" with the rivets and big recoil spring visible. But after I fired it a while I fell in love and bought one. And then another one. And then...

[Krupski]

regrettably, there is a large degree of intolerance on both sides of this issue.....

Evidence of that is the fact we call them "Fudds". Then again, they earned the title.

[Krupski]

An AK is sorta like Vise Grips. It's ugly, cumbersome, doesn't really do anything very well but can be used in multiple ways to do the job "good enough".

It's more like "An AK is like Vise Grips. It's not as pretty as an AR-15, but it always gets the job done".

Or, like in the movie Jackie Brown... "AK47 the very best there is. When you absolutely, positively gots[sic] to kill every motherer in the room... accept no substitutes".

[coppertales]

what the fudds think or of their opinion. All that old military junk is MINE......chris3

[was_peacemaker]

A few years ago I was at the range and two Fudds drove by and asked "how long I would be" (using that spot). I said "we have room, you can setup next to us". So, big thank yous and handshakes etc... they setup their table and brought out their shotguns and probably a grand total of 10 shotshells.

Then later I bring out my Norinco AK and bump fire it. Those guys turned corpse white, packed up their shit in 2 minutes and drove away. Oh well.

But that's not the end of the story. About 15 minutes later 2 state police cars and a regular car with a guy in a suit pulled up and told me they had a report of an "illegal full auto AK47".

I said "yup that's me, but it's not illegal and it's not full auto". I showed them bump firing, let one of the cops try firing it (I watched him pull back the trigger hard and slowly let it forward until the disconnector clicked). When they were satisfied that it was semi, they waved at the guy in the plain car and he drove away. I wonder if that guy was fucking BATFE?

Anyway, the cops were satisfied and drove away.

But, WTF? I thought those guys were FELLOW GUN OWNERS. I guess I was wrong. THEY were "sportsmen" and I was a "criminal" in their eyes...

If the SHTF, you may want to think about carrying a black rifle even if you would rather have a Kalashnikov... because those Fudd assholes will see the AK and think YOU are the bad guy.

I sympathize with you there man. I got called on one time for bumping an AK. I was on private property and shooting up saplings and stuff. This was back when AK food was 80-90 bucks a case. Anyway the Sheriff showed up about the time I was going back to the truck to get more ammo. He was pretty cool about it and I explained to him who I was, what I was doing, and like you...I had to explain what bumping was. Fortunately, he was a good ole boy type and he laughed and said "have fun". LOL

Of course that was in more southern culture type NC county. The one I am in doesn't take to kindly to people walking down the road with HK-91's. My car had broke down and I was in an area that was iffy and not far from my home. I had a HK-91 clone in the trunk, the reason why I didn't leave it there was because people around here break into broke down cars all the time.

Anyway I decided to grab it and walk home. I had a plan to go up about two miles cut through the woods and jump a creek to get back to my house. Well...long story short I ended up with about 6 deputies on me with pistols drawn...me on my knees with hands interlocked behind my head. Longer story short...I ended up proving my points for carrying the weapon, and got a ride home in a cruiser and got my weapon back. Unfortunately I live within 1-2 miles of 4 LEO jurisdictions. Every cop in the area knew my name, and my car and what happened. I would go into the local gas station to get a pack of cigarettes and the cops hanging out on the late shift would say things like "Hey...its Tim McVeigh"...or "The assault rifle kid". Yeah...real fun.

Those are only 2 of the 4 times I got called on. That is not to mention the time I was pulled by an undercover city cop! Really! An undercover city cop! He tore my car up searching for crap! All he found in the trunk to his displeasure was a single shot New England 20 gauge, and some gun mags. No ammo. Another time after these events I got pulled and the deputy took every thing out of my car...(on a dirt road mind you) and then just left after wishing me a nice day. LOL So from 2000-2006 I was on the local LEO crapper list.

[was_peacemaker]

what the fudds think or of their opinion. All that old military junk is MINE......chris3

Haha....I challenge you to a duel good sir....not if I don't get it first. LOL Just joking with ya.

[Shadow Walker]

Years ago, I got stopped at a license check point on a state highway.

I gave then my license, they checked it and gve it back to me, and told me to have a nice day.

Then I inquired if they wanted to check my guns. I had a MG-42, a S & W Model 76, and a MAC-10 in plain sight on my rear seat.

The reply was "No, we are just checking licenses. Have a nice day".

Today, with the craziness of Homeland Security, I would most likely get hauled in handcuffed like a criminal or terrorist.

[insider]

Years ago, I got stopped at a license check point on a state highway.

I gave then my license, they checked it and gve it back to me, and told me to have a nice day.

Then I inquired if they wanted to check my guns. I had a MG-42, a S & W Model 76, and a MAC-10 in plain sight on my rear seat.

The reply was "No, we are just checking licenses. Have a nice day".

Today, with the craziness of Homeland Security, I would most likely get hauled in handcuffed like a criminal or terrorist.

The Homeland Security would have shot you dead. ...............................................

[was_peacemaker]

Years ago, I got stopped at a license check point on a state highway.

I gave then my license, they checked it and gve it back to me, and told me to have a nice day.

Then I inquired if they wanted to check my guns. I had a MG-42, a S & W Model 76, and a MAC-10 in plain sight on my rear seat.

The reply was "No, we are just checking licenses. Have a nice day".

Today, with the craziness of Homeland Security, I would most likely get hauled in handcuffed like a criminal or terrorist.

WOW!! The good ole days huh. Yeah Homeland security would have gone bonkers over that.

[Krupski]

Years ago, I got stopped at a license check point on a state highway.

I gave then my license, they checked it and gve it back to me, and told me to have a nice day.

Then I inquired if they wanted to check my guns. I had a MG-42, a S & W Model 76, and a MAC-10 in plain sight on my rear seat.

The reply was "No, we are just checking licenses. Have a nice day".

Today, with the craziness of Homeland Security, I would most likely get hauled in handcuffed like a criminal or terrorist.

WHY???

[was_peacemaker]

WHY???

Sounds like he was just covering his tail because in some states you have to inform the law if you have a weapon in the vehicle. Here in NC whether your stopped for speeding or just a license check you have to inform the law if you have any weapons in your car. Failure to do so could be bad ju-ju with the law.