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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunreference1 View Post
    I believe that would be the H&R Handy-Gun



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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksmith View Post
    IMO
    They can’t go any further with semi auto.
    The Kriss is the next generation. but it is worthless in semi.
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    WOW! 1100 rounds per minutes x $35/100 for WWB = $385 per minute. I'm thinking that my range trips would be significantly shorter!

    Still....I could drink that Kool Aid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    If there is no more originality, what is the Kel-Tec RFB a copy of, or an update of???

    Remember, you said firearms in your opening post, not pistols.
    From what I read of the RFB, it's essentially an updated version of the FAL bullpup design. So, there again, it's a rehash. And lets not forget about the Ruger LCP and the Kel-Tec P-9/11/32. Essentially the same design but with the Ruger medallion all over it.

    And if there was one gun manufacturer that espouses the copy-cat nature currently en vogue, it has to be Taurus. Between copying S&W and Beretta, they wrote the book on the subject.
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    Okay, now that it's established that most "new" guns are copies of older guns, just updated, does anyone have any ideas on what a totally "original" gun would be like?

    There's only so much that can be done with a design that fits human contours.

    Would the new gun have to fire a different type of projectile (like plasma, electric charge, sonic, etc.), or be a completely different design that fits the hand/shouler in a different way?

    What would a totally original gun be?

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    Shotguns and big bores are where a lot of
    new and wild ideas are coming. Like our
    wildcats and 12GA FH stuff.Ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flinter View Post
    WOW! 1100 rounds per minutes x $35/100 for WWB = $385 per minute. I'm thinking that my range trips would be significantly shorter!

    Still....I could drink that Kool Aid!
    The accuracy on full auto is phenomenal.
    since there is no real recoil, it is possible to literally drop them in the same hole.
    nobody would believe you hit the target more than once.
    Last edited by Blacksmith; 08-26-2010 at 03:15 AM.

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    Well, there's the new Armalite-AR24...

    ...wait, that's a copy of the Cz75...

    ...which is a reiteration of the Browning hi-power...

    ...which came out in 1935...

    ...o.k., I think I see where you're coming from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo GED View Post
    Well, there's the new Armalite-AR24...

    ...wait, that's a copy of the Cz75...

    ...which is a reiteration of the Browning hi-power...

    ...which came out in 1935...

    ...o.k., I think I see where you're coming from.

    the cz is a copy of the hi-power? I'm not trying to argue I've just never heard that before, they seem pretty different to me but I'm not terribly knowlegdable with the browning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    the cz is a copy of the hi-power? I'm not trying to argue I've just never heard that before, they seem pretty different to me but I'm not terribly knowlegdable with the browning.
    They changed (modernized? improved?) some of the design in the usual VZ / CZ fassion, but it is basically a child of the old browning. Much like the VZ82 is to the Makarov.

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