curious..just for the hell of it..if a shtf thing happens..are we all squared away?

**dishman** · 09-20-2010, 10:30 PM

i am no doomsayer,but i think our gov is leading us astray for whatever reason you may think of,and i think we let in way more illegals then we should.i am thinking maybe the al quida types have been slipping across our borders(north and south)for some time now,and it is just a matter of time before bridges start dropping and dirty bombs start going off in our urban centers...if and when that ocurs..what our decent folk to do..you know that all types of people will be spilling out of the cities into the countryside..mostly good people but also bad ones,myself,i dont want to turn away good people but how the hell do distinguish the good from the bad if things come to that?
i hope that does not occur but i have a bad feeling that we have been way to lax for way to long.
if i was a cop and the unthinkable happenend,i would go to my family,as anyone would i would think...so law and order is out the window..what then..survival of the fittist?
probably should not watch the colony..lol..but it has me thinking..things could go bad quick,and i myself would like to think that as americans first..we would help our own..but i have to say,if i had to deal with alot of destitute people i would try to help them to a point...but you do at some point have to look out for your own.
any thoughts on how to deal with this potential issue?
i am not talking about fortifications and ammo..have plenty of that,was thinking more about,how do you help people that are not prepared,and at what point do you not help?

**mriddick** · 09-20-2010, 10:48 PM

**El Jefe** · 09-20-2010, 11:06 PM

I'm in better shape now than I was a year ago, but no, I'm not ready for TSHTF.

**Goodman** · 09-21-2010, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by mriddick

......

How the FUCK did Capt. Willard get the ice cream all the way up that river (4:45 into the clip)? I've seen the movie many times and I never caught that part!

**Oswald Bastable** · 09-21-2010, 01:35 AM

No one is every truly ready for SHTF, but hopefully you're more ready than the next guy.

**HDR** · 09-21-2010, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by Oswald Bastable

No one is every truly ready for SHTF, but hopefully you're more ready than the next guy.

Hitler was ready and he lost.

**Zoff12** · 09-21-2010, 05:33 AM

In a nutshell... trust, with reservation, those you already have plans with. Outside of that... trust no one. It is hard to find the balance between a Christian view (Please don't make this an issue here. It's just my way.) and a survivalist view, but one must develop a harder heart. Your family is first. I’d even be wary if someone showed up and said, “I so-and-so from Gunsnet.” How do I know what type of person this is other than what I read on the net? I don’t! Period! Be willing to turn away those you do not know regardless of what you see... women, children, infirmed, etc. Guilt and sympathy are not emotions that one can afford when it come to their own family during SHTF. Even the weakest person can cut your throat when you sleep.

**Mark Ducati** · 09-21-2010, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by dishman

i am no doomsayer,but i think our gov is leading us astray for whatever reason you may think of,and i think we let in way more illegals then we should.i am thinking maybe the al quida types have been slipping across our borders(north and south)for some time now,and it is just a matter of time before bridges start dropping and dirty bombs start going off in our urban centers...if and when that ocurs..what our decent folk to do..you know that all types of people will be spilling out of the cities into the countryside..mostly good people but also bad ones,myself,i dont want to turn away good people but how the hell do distinguish the good from the bad if things come to that?
i hope that does not occur but i have a bad feeling that we have been way to lax for way to long.
if i was a cop and the unthinkable happenend,i would go to my family,as anyone would i would think...so law and order is out the window..what then..survival of the fittist?
probably should not watch the colony..lol..but it has me thinking..things could go bad quick,and i myself would like to think that as americans first..we would help our own..but i have to say,if i had to deal with alot of destitute people i would try to help them to a point...but you do at some point have to look out for your own.
any thoughts on how to deal with this potential issue?
i am not talking about fortifications and ammo..have plenty of that,was thinking more about,how do you help people that are not prepared,and at what point do you not help?

No, you cannot distinguish bad guys necessarily.... suppose you take in a daddy/wife/2 small kids into your home... who's to say daddy doesn't off you and your family? What if he's holding a bible as a prop? You cannot and do not know who is a BG.

Help them to a point? IF its that bad that they have to leave the city, don't you think local grocery stores will be rampaged/emptied in a flash? What are you going to do, give them your family's food and water?

I don't like it any more than you.... the extent of my help would be to help them down the road away from my property! No, I'm not wasting my gas giving them a ride, help meaning a stern verbal warning to get off my property and if THEY want to escalate it, I'm prepared.

If it comes down to my kids eating or not and starving, I'm willing to turn away even my own nieces and nephews.... these are things YOU need to think about before this happens so you know how you will act.... what I do is encourage others in the family to prepare as I do, some have and some not.... those that haven't, well... they were advised and warned accordingly.

**Mark Ducati** · 09-21-2010, 07:43 AM

Just another side note...

My 6 year old son and I have been watching a log of Man vs. Wild and now the new one Man/Woman/Wild.... last night, stranded on an island, they ate eel, coconut crabs, sea slugs...

Talking with my son in past, we discussed eating possum and squirrel.... no way was his comment. After watching the shows and putting starvation together with not eating, he said he'd eat anything to stay alive if he was hungry enough.

I've got a lot of freeze dried 30 year shelf food stored.... a few tid bits of squirrel/possum/deer would go a long way in these stews

Might want to start desensitizing your family to this possibility of eating wild game now.

**crapshoot** · 09-21-2010, 09:21 AM