firearm ID

**Broondog** · 04-02-2013, 11:39 AM

there is a member of another forum i'm on that is searching for an ID on this old revolver she has and folks over there are drawing a blank. so i thought i would toss it on the table over here and see what you guys think.

link to thread.....http://www.handgunforum.net/general-...g-me-nuts.html

link to pics....http://www.flickr.com/photos/93006097@N06/8609853945/

and the threads first post to decide if you want to get involved.......

So, I have this old revolver ... and a few other oldies. Usually, I can research
one of the old arms in no time flat.

I have spent three days trying to find out what this revolver is ...
Three days! Every time I think I'm close to solving the puzzle, I end up
back where I started. Back at nothing.

Then, I had this brilliant idea!
... Forums have always been helpful. Find a good forum and ask people who know about this kind of sh-stuff!

My husband swore it was a LaMat.
No way! I protested.

Another person said it was the same as Billy the kids gun.
Which led me to the 41 long ... It can't be a colt though. I couldn't
find any matching colt.

For a full day, I was positive it was a LeFaucheux. Except, no hinge gate.
That was the closest I got ...

I found a capitol "T" stamped on the side and thought, Tula arms!
It's old enough, so it seemed relevant.
But, I read somewhere that an uncircled "T" stamp on the left side of the
receiver, possibly indicated German military use.

Now I am lost. Dumbfounded. I don't know where to go from here or even
where to start looking again.

It's a six shot, center fire.

On the cylinder, there is a "CZ" mark and

what looks like a "W" with a circle around it.

Underneath the grips, on the frame is the number "25".

And of course the "T"

Also, when I cock the hammer, the cylinder rotates the wrong direction.

I know it's missing the sight and the ejector ...

Inside the barrel, just the tip is octagonal, the part closet to the
cylinder is rounded.

Can someone please help me end this frustration?
There must be someone out there way more knowledgable than me.

Please!?

At this point I care less about the value and more about, simply identifying it.

I can take more photos with the grips off if that will help.
Any ideas?

Here are some photos on my flickr. On the right, above the photo, is the "Older" button. You can click that to see
All the photos. I took pictures of the markings as well.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/93006097@N06/8609853945/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93006097@N06/8609853945/
Thank you, anyone, who might have the slightest clue.

what do you guys think? at first i thought Nagant but the loading gate is wrong. maybe French or Czech?

**Richard Simmons** · 04-02-2013, 12:10 PM

That's a toughy. My first thought was Belgian but I checked everything I could for that as well as Italian, German, Spanish and French but nothing quite matches this one.

**ROCK ME AMADEUS** · 04-02-2013, 01:29 PM

Also, when I cock the hammer, the cylinder rotates the wrong direction.

there is no set direction, everyone used something a little different.

STUMPED, even some of the books i have . I can tell you this though.

It's modeled after the Belgian Liege.

**charger0122** · 04-02-2013, 02:12 PM

dang thats a tough one! it looks like a pin fire maybe converted to centerfire to me but who knows.

**Broondog** · 04-02-2013, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by ROCK ME AMADEUS

there is no set direction, everyone used something a little different.

yeah that made me wonder too. what is "right"? Smith or Colt?

**Richard Simmons** · 04-02-2013, 03:32 PM

S&W CCW
Taurus CCW
Early Colt CCW but I think it was around 1930 or so Colt went with clockwise rotation
Dan Wesson I think they are CW like the Colts