After today, it's all historical.
Hummm, I wonder why they're doing this? I thought this market was pretty good for them.
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Who still uses their old guns?
The current M&P series blows the pants off the old guns.
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Yeah that is kinda odd.
There's a whole lot of them out there and they were in production until only a few years ago, it's not like it was something they hadn't made in 20 years or something.
On the other hand they do offer a lot of different models and trying to support them and out of production models as well is probably a pretty daunting task. When you consider all the new models they've offered lately then yeah I can see why they're not to interested in supporting older models that were developed by the previous owners of the company.
Wern't those guns sold with a "lifetime" warranty?
Sounds like S&W just devalued ALL their products with that kind of crap service.
US Constitution: Article 1 Section 8 Paragraph 4
The Congress shall have Power To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization
Does a "lifetime warranty" cover replacement/repair due to normal wear and tear? I know with the older S&W revolvers they no longer have parts if something breaks so in order to service them you have to find your own part and send it to S&W with your revolver. Granted, they weren't covered by a "lifetime warranty" but like I said, is breakage or wear and tear part of any warranty? If there is a market for the parts what ever isn't already made by someone like Wolf Springs will be soon.
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It doesn't necessarily mean they won't honor their warranty.
They may do like other companies and replace it with or offer a deal on a current production model.
I have no idea what the fine print of their warranty says - nor do I know for sure that it is a lifetime warranty (that's why my sentence was in the form of a question). But I'll say this, If I have a gun that has a lifetime warranty brake do to a defect; and the manufacture says we'll give you a current model at "cost" I'd be extremely pissed off. If I'm shelling out multiple hundreds of dollars because something I bought had a defect, I'm not going to consider that ANY kind of warranty, at all.
US Constitution: Article 1 Section 8 Paragraph 4
The Congress shall have Power To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization
What company does offer a genuine original replacement for out of production models???
US Constitution: Article 1 Section 8 Paragraph 4
The Congress shall have Power To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization
Yeah I guess I am........you seem like a hard person to please and just curious as to what company you patronize that has this fabulous "lifetime warranty" you speak of.
Hey I might start buying from them too.
I know it's not S&W as they never did offer a lifetime warranty on the pistols in question.
From the S&W manual on Metal Frame Centerfire Pistols
LIMITED WARRANTY
For Owners Within The United States.
This warranty is granted by Smith & Wesson Corp. This warranty
is effective from the date of purchase and applies to the original
owner of any firearm. With respect to such firearms, this warranty
supersedes any and all other warranties.
Smith & Wesson firearms are warranted to be free from defects
in material and workmanship. Any such defects of which Smith &
Wesson receives written notice within one year from the date of
purchase by the original owner, will be remedied by Smith &
Wesson without charge within a reasonable time after such notification
and delivery of the firearm as provided below.
In the event of an emergency (repairs needed by law enforcement,
an upcoming match or hunting trip), call 1-800-331-0852,
ext. 2905 and ask for 911 Priority Repair Service. This allows you
to speak with a Smith & Wesson representative. Immediately
upon receipt, your firearm will be assigned to a gunsmith. After
the work is completed, we will return your Smith & Wesson
firearm via overnight delivery.
Warranty claims (in writing) and the firearm concerned should be
delivered to Smith & Wesson’s Customer Service Department,
2100 Roosevelt Avenue, Springfield, Massachusetts 01104. In
addition, a copy of the bill of sale in the owner’s name, or a copy
of ATF Form 4473 indicating date of purchase must be included.
It is important that the owner comply with all applicable federal,
state and local laws and regulations in the shipment of firearms
to Smith & Wesson.
Warranty claims should state the model and serial number of the
firearm concerned and the description of the difficulty experienced.
It is recommended that shipments be insured by the
owner, since Smith & Wesson will accept no responsibility for
loss or damage in transit. Transportation and insurance charges
for return to owner will be paid by Smith & Wesson if the claim is
covered by the warranty.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHALL SMITH & WESSON BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES
WITH RESPECT TO ECONOMIC LOSS, INJURY, DEATH
OR PROPERTY DAMAGE, WHETHER AS A RESULT OF
BREACH OF THIS WARRANTY, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE.
Some States do not allow the exclusion or limitation of incidental
or consequential damages, so the above limitation or exclusion
may not apply to you.
Terribly sorry if it offends you that I don't share your opinion and actually think it's kinda kooky and silly.
Last edited by weevil; 05-30-2014 at 06:36 PM.
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