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    New accord with Mexico will boost gun traces

    Published October 06, 2010| Associated Press

    MEXICO CITY – U.S. and Mexican officials are just now fully employing a gun-tracing program touted as a key deterrent to weapons-smuggling, nearly three years after it was first announced in Mexico and weeks after an inspector general's preliminary report called it underused and unsuccessful.

    Not enough Mexican investigators had been trained on or had access to the electronic database designed to trace illegally seized weapons to origins in the U.S., a top official at Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said Wednesday.

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    U.S. struggles to stop flow of guns to Mexico

    By William Booth
    Washington Post Foreign Service
    Thursday, October 7, 2010

    IN MEXICO CITY Efforts to stem the smuggling of weapons from the United States to Mexican drug cartels have been frustrated by bureaucratic infighting, a lack of training and the delayed delivery of a computer program to Mexico, according to U.S. and Mexican officials.

    In the past four years, Mexico has submitted information about more than 74,000 guns seized south of the border that the government suspects were smuggled from the United States. But much of the data is so incomplete as to be useless and has not helped authorities bust the gunrunners who supply the Mexican mafias with their vast armories, officials said.

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    Kurt Hofmann
    St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner

    BATFE to be silent about percentage of Mexican 'crime guns' traced

    October 8th, 2010 10:23 am CT

    Earlier this week, we discussed the fact that while those in favor of ever more restrictions on that which shall not be infringed like to toss around (large) figures relating to the percentage of seized (and traced) Mexican "crime guns" that come from U.S. gun shops, what they studiously avoid discussing is what percentage of the seized guns actually are traced. That, of course, is rather critical information being withheld, particularly given the fact that a year and a half ago, when U.S. gun dealers were supposedly supplying "90%" of the traced Mexican "crime guns," only about 25% of the seized guns were being traced (according to Sen. John Kerry--who certainly won't be accused of doctoring figures for the sake of the "gun lobby").

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    Treaty to curb gun smuggling to Mexico remains stalled

    By Mary Beth Sheridan
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, October 22, 2010

    During his first visit to Mexico, President Obama pledged to do more to keep U.S. guns out of the hands of murderous drug cartels. One promise: to seek approval of a long-stalled treaty against illegal weapons sales.

    "I am urging the Senate in the United States to ratify an inter-American treaty known as CIFTA, to curb small-arms trafficking that is a source of so many of the weapons used in this drug war," the president said at the April 2009 news conference.

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    We will give them computers, program the computers, hook them into our data system and they they will sell the computers to the biggest Cartel in town that day. Call me cynical but no treaty in the world is going to change the corruption in Mexico till they have a complete collapse and the good people start snuffing out the smoldering fires of rotten politicians, police and military officers on the take and drug lords.

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    That and and lot of good a gun tracing program will do you if most the guns aren't comming from the US.
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    The CIFTA Enthusiasm Gap

    Posted November 1st, 2010 at 1:00pm in American Leadership

    In a “no news is news” story, The Washington Post reports that, in spite of nominal support from President Obama in April 2009, neither Senate Democrats nor the White House is enthusiastic about seeking ratification of the CIFTA treaty. That is good news.

    CIFTA is the Spanish acronym for the Inter-American Convention Against the Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials. Negotiated under the auspices of the Organization of American States, it was signed by President Clinton in 1997, but it has not yet received the advice and consent of the Senate. And it appears that that is not going to change soon.

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    A while back it was reported that a lot of the USA manufactored weapons found in the hands of the Cartels were factory FA. That means they were supplied to the Mexico government by the US government and sold out the back door... I'm not sure our government or their's wants to admit they are the biggest suppliers of weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Laton Caliente View Post
    A while back it was reported that a lot of the USA manufactored weapons found in the hands of the Cartels were factory FA. That means they were supplied to the Mexico government by the US government and sold out the back door... I'm not sure our government or their's wants to admit they are the biggest suppliers of weapons.
    You may be on the the real issue here. I did find this part of the treaty a BIG problem and this is the kind of language that I fear will also be in the UN treaty on small arms:
    But the treaty prohibits the “unlicensed manufacture or assembly or firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials,” and it defines “related materials” as “any component, part, or replacement part of a firearm, or an accessory which can be attached to a firearm.
    Under this treaty you and me would need a special license to reload ammo or assemble an AR (or any gun for that matter). You may even need a special license to replace broken parts or add a flshlight to your gun. AND, what's to limit the price of this license or the red tape envolved to get one. Would you also need a seperate license for each activity?

    This is very bad!
    US Constitution: Article 1 Section 8 Paragraph 4

    The Congress shall have Power To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization

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