Anyone watch it? He wants to make it harder for us gun owners still.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...l?intcmp=hpbt1
Anyone watch it? He wants to make it harder for us gun owners still.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...l?intcmp=hpbt1
Last edited by recon; 12-06-2015 at 11:47 PM.
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Their plan to make it illegal for people on the no fly list to buy firearms will never work. You can not take away civil/constitutionally protected rights with out due process.
How someone who claims to be a constitutional lawyer doesn't know this is beyond me.
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Explain how a conviction for domestic violence (Misdemeanor, no mor serioius than a speeding ticket) voids your 2nd Amendment rights. They started with that shit and they'll try to do it again. Eventually Jaywalking will void 2nd Amendment rights!
That is also one I have always been curious about, and when ever I ask people have no idea.Explain how a conviction for domestic violence (Misdemeanor, no mor serioius than a speeding ticket) voids your 2nd Amendment rights. They started with that shit and they'll try to do it again. Eventually Jaywalking will void 2nd Amendment rights!
If you violate a restraining order in some states it's go directly to jail, no trial, as well.
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It is based on statistics (not defending or even evaluating the answer, just providing it) that showed that if a person, normally a man, was accused of domestic violence they are more likely to murder the person they were accused of domestic violence against. As I said, I don't know what the prevalence of type of murder (shooting, strangulation, bludgeoning, etc) is inside the statistics, but that was the logic used. I believe this was proposed and pushed through by Senator Lautenberg from New Jersey.Explain how a conviction for domestic violence (Misdemeanor, no mor serioius than a speeding ticket) voids your 2nd Amendment rights. They started with that shit and they'll try to do it again. Eventually Jaywalking will void 2nd Amendment rights!
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Totally agree. I watched it was actually surprised on how little time he spent talking about gun control. Of course both items mentioned were non starters. As others have stated. Having your name on a list does not suspend your constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms and expanded background checks won't make a difference when the perps are complying with background checks now.
The thing I might get onboard with would be something to do with mental health. Here in VA when Cho went on his shooting spree at VA Tech you were only denied on the BC if you had been ordered by a judge into in patient treatment. Cho was ordered into out patient treatment or something similar so at the time he was not prohibited. VA has since changed the wording of the law and Cho would not have passed the BD today.
The issue I have is how they implement new policy to keep the mentally ill from passing the BC. Someone who has or had a one time, 30 day Rx for valium is not the same in my book as someone with a diagnosis of schizophrenia or some other major/dangerous disorder.
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This "list deal" is MUCH more nefarious than people understand. It's being billed a stopper on the NICS check. But just like UBCs were billed as "just a background check for private transfers", nobody is looking at the left hand that is pulling a fast one.
See, this list will not only be a stopper on a NICS check, it will also be a ban on POSSESSION! How long do you think it will be after the no buy list is passed before some conservative gets a surprise knock on the door from DHS? You say something that King Barry doesn't like, you get placed on "the list", and get a knock on your door to search your home, and seize all firearms! And all without any due process.
Make no mistake, that IS the plan.
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Yep. To reinforce what L1A1Rocker and others have said, lists are bad for the simple fact that anybody can be placed on them without due process. That means you and me. As we all know anyway, being on a "list" won't stop a bad guy or a terrorist from obtaining or building weapons.
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