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    Interesting how gun control was the spark that ignited the revolutionary war.


    https://www.oathkeepers.org/how-the-...an-revolution/
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuetzenman View Post
    Correct! The Southern Poverty Law Center helped Bill Cliton come up with the Assault Weapon ban of 1994. They also prepared a Sniper Rifle ban document. If I recall correctly they listed any rifle capable of 4" or better grouping at 100 yards as a Sniper Rifle that would be banned from future sale to the US Citizens. The huge backlash over the Assault Weapon ban and the loss of both houses for the Dummcraps shelved that plan.
    Remember that Gun control groups wanted the then Secretary of the Treasury to declare the Mossberg 500 shotgun as a 'destructive device'. That's a fact and on the record It was a dark time for gun owners in those days. No alternate media to push any other narrative was as powerful as the biased MSM. Texan Lloyd Bentsen, unfortunately, caved to Clinton's pressure and did declare the USAS 12, the Stryker 12 and the Street Sweeper to be Destructive Devices

    But those morons actually wanted a common shotgun like the Mossberg to be illegal (unless you apply for and get a D.D. permit, which is near impossible in many states).

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    It will die in congress, just like all the other tries. These are sick out of touch people who assume that public sentiment will some how back them after the latest mass shooting. Of course the opposite is happening. Try telling that to the dhimicrat in crowd.

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    And for those living in the People's Democratic Republik of Illnoise;


    Bill Status of HR0855 99th General Assembly



    Short Description: 2ND AMEND-NOT INDIVIDUAL RIGHT

    Synopsis As Introduced
    Urges the courts, especially the United States Supreme Court, to adhere to the clear wording of the Second Amendment being a right afforded to state-sponsored militias and not individuals.
    http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/Bill...88&LegID=92803


    Full treason;
    http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/99/HR/09900HR0855.htm
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    I have never been more in favor of roof top voting then I am now, so tired of this of this nonsense.

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    I am being lazy but wasn't the state militia all men between the ages of 16 and 45?
    Ordered to have their own firearms in good working order and prepared to defend?
    While no one ever listens to me,
    I am constantly being told to be quiet.

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    Getting tired of idiots saying that it is not an individual's right, when the right of "the people" is mentioned in 4 of the 10 bill of rights. So if "the people" doesn't mean what it says, the same must go for the other three amendments too?

    How far will they push before we the people get tired of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    Getting tired of idiots saying that it is not an individual's right, when the right of "the people" is mentioned in 4 of the 10 bill of rights. So if "the people" doesn't mean what it says, the same must go for the other three amendments too?

    How far will they push before we the people get tired of it?
    Liberals doing what they do best when it comes to the Constitution and BOR: Cherry-picking the parts they can use to further their agenda while saying that the Constitution does not apply to real Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    And for those living in the People's Democratic Republik of Illnoise;


    Bill Status of HR0855 99th General Assembly



    Short Description: 2ND AMEND-NOT INDIVIDUAL RIGHT

    Synopsis As Introduced
    Urges the courts, especially the United States Supreme Court, to adhere to the clear wording of the Second Amendment being a right afforded to state-sponsored militias and not individuals.
    http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/Bill...88&LegID=92803



    Full treason;
    http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/99/HR/09900HR0855.htm

    Maybe they missed that part of the Heller decision where ALL NINE of the justices UNANIMOUSLY concurred that the 2A is an INDIVIDUAL right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l921428x View Post
    I am being lazy but wasn't the state militia all men between the ages of 16 and 45?
    Ordered to have their own firearms in good working order and prepared to defend?
    http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/quotes/arms.html


    From the very mouths of the founders.



    Those founders who wrote and enacted the US Constitution.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by l921428x View Post
    I am being lazy but wasn't the state militia all men between the ages of 16 and 45?
    Ordered to have their own firearms in good working order and prepared to defend?
    Current law (10 USC 311) defines the unorganized militia as men between 17 and 45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copterdoctor View Post


    Isn't the first line of the description just great?

    To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.
    Translation: To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the Second Amendment to the Bill of Rights doesn't mean what it says, and for other purposes.

    F--king idiots. Doesn't matter that Clinton's AWB did absolutely nothing other than to increase rifle sales, they STILL feel the need to ban "barrel shrouds" (without even knowing what that is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by l921428x View Post
    AGREED!


    In NY, the taxpayers (all, not just gun owners) pay an unlimited amount of $$$ for the governor's legal fees to defend his unconstitutional "SAFE" act, but us gun owners have to spend our own $$$ to fight it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by l921428x View Post
    Let the hunters know their list has also been drawn up.
    The typical hunter is a Fudd who thinks he's a "sportsman" and smugly looks down on the knuckle dragging, mouth breathing Neanderthals who own rifles.

    They fail to understand that they are gun owners too, and it's only a matter of time before this BS reaches their "sporting" arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil125 View Post
    Well Merry freakin Christmas. It won't pass its just a dog and pony show. At least my SKS is exempt.

    We can't let these morons get congress back. Or the Supreme court

    As long as we have the courage to refuse to obey unconstitutional laws and "cling to our guns", We, the People still own our Country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil125 View Post
    Honestly if you take the 2nd amendment word for word. Assault rifles are probably the only weapon that should be legal.
    EXACTLY this!

    Taken literally, 2A doesn't protect hunting, target shooting or any other "sporting" activity. It protects the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms in order to be able to DEFEND their families, their community, their state and their Country from any enemy, foreign or domestic.

    Therefore, so-called "assault" rifles are more protected than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krupski View Post
    EXACTLY this!

    Taken literally, 2A doesn't protect hunting, target shooting or any other "sporting" activity. It protects the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms in order to be able to DEFEND their families, their community, their state and their Country from any enemy, foreign or domestic.

    Therefore, so-called "assault" rifles are more protected than anything else.
    The libs know this and that's why they are so adamant about getting rid of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet3534 View Post
    Current law (10 USC 311) defines the unorganized militia as men between 17 and 45.
    Also I think they can't be serving military or hold public office, otherwise all able bodied male citizens in that age range are the de facto and de jure militia.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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