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    H.R.4269 - Assault Weapons Ban of 2015


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    I notice they were kind enough to include that huge list of all the hundreds or thousands of firearms not effected by the ban in some attempt, I presume, to show others it's not intended to deny firearms ownership, after all, we can still have all these other guns. What a crock.
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    And we as tax payers paid for this? Time to give them all the boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulo View Post
    And we as tax payers paid for this? Time to give them all the boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    I notice they were kind enough to include that huge list of all the hundreds or thousands of firearms not effected by the ban in some attempt, I presume, to show others it's not intended to deny firearms ownership, after all, we can still have all these other guns. What a crock.
    No that is NOT what that is, that is a list of what is next, it will be under the guise of high powered sniper rifles.
    Let the hunters know their list has also been drawn up.
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    To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.
    There is a whole lot wrong with this opening sentence.
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    Well my son built a fifty last week so he beat them to the punch. BTW, you can actually shoulder the thing. The muzzle brake is that effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altarboy View Post
    Well my son built a fifty last week so he beat them to the punch. BTW, you can actually shoulder the thing. The muzzle brake is that effective.
    Cool, BUT .... I hope you're not implying that it's okay as long as you got yours, right?

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    Well Merry freakin Christmas. It won't pass its just a dog and pony show. At least my SKS is exempt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil125 View Post
    Well Merry freakin Christmas. It won't pass its just a dog and pony show. At least my SKS is exempt.

    We can't let these morons get congress back. Or the Supreme court
    In that case but 2 more!!
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    "“(H) All of the following rifles, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:"

    That's kinda open ended right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tank_monkey View Post
    Cool, BUT .... I hope you're not implying that it's okay as long as you got yours, right?
    No, but sorta. What I mean is I want these things in the fold when the law is passed. It's a relief to beat the deadline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altarboy View Post
    No, but sorta. What I mean is I want these things in the fold when the law is passed. It's a relief to beat the deadline.
    Actually having the rifle to use if there is a deadline is what our founders fought for. You got yours is ok, but after the deadline it is not ok for someone else to have one?

    Sorry to disagree, but all guns matter. (I had to say that but I mean it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    Actually having the rifle to use if there is a deadline is what our founders fought for. You got yours is ok, but after the deadline it is not ok for someone else to have one?

    Sorry to disagree, but all guns matter. (I had to say that but I mean it)
    I agree. I never look at it through the prism of "Gee I got MINE".... I've always fought against all AW bans. Even though I was one of the lucky ones to get them the deadline and are grandfathered in, I still bristle at the fact that new guys can't buy anything. When the rest of us DIE off, that means that future generations won't be able to get SQUAT .... and that's an abomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tank_monkey View Post
    I agree. I never look at it through the prism of "Gee I got MINE".... I've always fought against all AW bans. Even though I was one of the lucky ones to get them the deadline and are grandfathered in, I still bristle at the fact that new guys can't buy anything. When the rest of us DIE off, that means that future generations won't be able to get SQUAT .... and that's an abomination.
    This part bothers me. IF it's grandfathered in, then the govt. knows you have it, and when it comes time to ban ALL guns, they'll have a list of who has what grandfathered in.

    I don't trust lists at all.
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    Give them a boot ... nah I think a nice pretty neck tie party is better.

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    These idiots have no thought of the future. Sure do we have a totalitarian regime in office. NO! sometimes if feels like it, but no. Move to North Korea, Iran, or Venezuela if you want a tastes of that. But who knows what the USA will look like 25, 50, 100 years from now. We cannot rob the future generations of the USA of their only defense so they can get some brownie points with their constituents today.

    The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with Hunting or sport shooting. It has everything to do with protecting the citizens of the USA from whatever may come. And that is something nobody ever seems to get. Honestly if you take the 2nd amendment word for word. Assault rifles are probably the only weapon that should be legal.
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    The Fudds are also part of the Problem as well. They think they are Safe. Can you say Sniper Rifle anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobe Sound AK View Post
    The Fudds are also part of the Problem as well. They think they are Safe. Can you say Sniper Rifle anyone?
    Yep. The anti-Americans have had a hard-on for .50-cal for years. Semi-auto, single shot - doesn't matter - they want them gone. If .50-caliber rifles are ever banned nation-wide, they won't stop there: They will move on down the line of "deadly terrorist/military sniper rifle" calibers and "big game rifle" calibers. "You don't need a sniper rifle to hunt wabbits!"

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2005...roduced-asbrsn
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/big-rifle-a-terrorist-tool/

    As for the AWB of 2015, it looks like HR 4269 is simply a copy/paste bill that the Dims keep re-introducing time and time again, hoping that one day it will slip through. Here it is from 2009:
    http://rense.com/general85/obs.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobe Sound AK View Post
    The Fudds are also part of the Problem as well. They think they are Safe. Can you say Sniper Rifle anyone?
    Correct! The Southern Poverty Law Center helped Bill Cliton come up with the Assault Weapon ban of 1994. They also prepared a Sniper Rifle ban document. If I recall correctly they listed any rifle capable of 4" or better grouping at 100 yards as a Sniper Rifle that would be banned from future sale to the US Citizens. The huge backlash over the Assault Weapon ban and the loss of both houses for the Dummcraps shelved that plan.

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