All though I agree that legalizing drugs would strike a good blow at the problem, it would not completely solve it. these sick bastards come over here, kidnap our children and take them back to Mexico. where god only knows what happens too them. that and they are experts at theft, rape, murder etc.
but of course if you speak out against it, the current administration will label you a right wing extremist and a racist.
ALSO, what of the risks to second hand people? Go to a concert, or ride a bus, and have a guy smoking a joint next to you for 10 minutes or during an entire concert......then, you get a randomn drug test at work and get fired. What of THAT? THAT cannot happen with alcohol. And I speak from experience on this. Went to a concert (pink floyde experience) on a thursday night, had a few wiffs of pot from someone smoking near me, and the following tuesday I flunked a piss test after injuring myself on the job (chipped my tooth). It showed a trace of thc in my system. FURHTER testing showed I was clean, but believe me, it can happen. I got three days suspension for it, while they tested me thoroughly....... And some professions are not very understanding on this.....
What happens when one of the professions NOT allowed to smoke gets a thc trace after a piss test? Say a doctor stands in line at a hotdog stand, gets 3 or 4 wiffs over a guys shoulder......What if he has not smoked, and never has, but sat next to a guy at a concert like me? Or a teacher? or an airline pilot? If people are walking the streets smoking, it would be pretty damned hard NOT to get wiffs......so what then?
You guys STILL thinking that legalizing it will just erase all legal issues?
Then you must be high......
Last edited by Ruskiegunlover; 07-19-2010 at 03:42 PM.
In my job, if we are even stopped for anything related to DUI/Driving While Impaired, or any alcohol-related incident, we are subject to immediate firing. You don't even have to be found guilty; just stopped and cited is enough. (And all driving stops that are for reasons other than speeding, are reported in the local papers.)Originally Posted by mriddick
...........and you're obviously an idiot. I'm not going to discuss this with you because your views are over the top and down right stupid. Later.
Ok, run from the discussion then. Tell me what i posted above that is just 'out there'...??? Think the above scenario is impossible? Please, tell me how? Oh, thats right, you support legalizing it, and like many idiots I know who want to, you just think all our problems will drift away in a haze of pot smoke once its done. Yup, thats right, NO issues with legalization at all right? No more litigation, no laws to pass and enforce....Everyone can do it, all the time, and we'll have no problems....quite the contrary actually.....so what was that? Oh, yeah, the REALITY setting in for you. Believe me, I don't give a good shit about YOU or anyone else throwing there life away, I care about ME having to pay for it. And, I point out serious flaws in the high-school-like thinking that all will just be ok if only we legalize it. You obviously have not thought it out further then how much and how cheap it will be for you if legalized......
Yep, we need to come as close as is possible to locking the southern border down. I don't give a shit if we have to mine the damned thing and put a machinegun nest every 100 yards. The situation we have now is insane and no administration truely concerned with national security would allow a situation as it now exists.
But of course in this day and age being concerned about law and order is racist.
Legalizing pot is only one part of the overall long-term solution IMHO. Also need to control our borders, reform the laws as mentioned - employers would need to begin to treat pot the same as alcohol. We would need to collect all of the illegals currently in the country and deport them - they can take their anchor kids with them... or not. If they choose to take the kids, the kids lose citizenship. We would need a Constitutional amendment to get this done properly.
And the list of other reforms needed in this country are long - taxes, term limits, bloated government cuts, inefficient military reorganization, law simplification, etc.
~Nemo me impune lacessit~
Ok Im not entirely sure but heres my takes.
Yes I think legalizing pot will solve several problems. Fuck, 6 out of 10 people in my area grow the shit, and 8 out of 10 smoke it.
Dont want your kids smoking it? Slap a 21 age limit on it. YES theyll still do it, just like they do alcohol and STILL do pot right now though its illegal. No you wont be teaching doped up kids, because their asses will be sent home, just like a kid whos intoxicated would be.
Smoking a joint in public? Pretty sure your not allowed to walk around the streets guzzling a fifth of Jack, last I checked anyways. Impose the same laws regarding pot as there are regarding alcohol. Or at least similiar.
We also need to get harsh with employers who are knowingly hiring illegals.
Oh sure, inject logic into the conversation. That's not fair.
I know, I just get sick and tired of hearing people go off on the extremes and not stop to think wit der bwains for a second.
Your President would call you intolerant!
I can brew my own beer.. I can ferment my own wine... why cant i grow my own herb (for personal consumption)..? it's madness...
saw a "drugs Inc" about heroin... the best approach seemed to be that of the Swiss.. treat the addiction like a disease (duh).. provide it as medication in safe clinics.. allows additional follow up in regards to mental health issues and in regards to other disease.. the overall impact on their society is much less than the alternative...
"If you're not shooting, you should be loading. If you're not loading, you should be moving. If you're not moving, someone's gonna cut your head off and put it on a stick."
Clint Smith
again, the time it is in your system is a BIG problem. If alcohol stayed in your system THAT long, IT TOO would be a much larger problem. And, if the guy sitting next to you enjoying a sam adams caused YOUR blood acholhol content to rise, then it would be a problem.....
Sorry, what I said makes sense. Its obvious problems with legalizing it.
You’re arguing that someone could just light right up on the street in front of a hotdog stand. and now you are trying to convince us that people can have a beer wherever they want. It’s a stupid argument and nobody pro or con is buying it.
IMO
If you are in a job that requires drug testing and you are dumb enough to go to a party and catch a contact high. than you deserve what you get.
Are you really a blacksmith?
I'm pretty damned sure that simply smelling pot smoke as you walk down the street won't cause one to fail a drug test. Just thought that needed to be injected into the conversation.
well, sorry, I have personally experienced how a few wiffs at a concert, enough to really get the smell of it, gets into your system. Again, just days later. It was about 25 minutes until the end of my shift at cessna, I had been shooting rivets with a guy, safety glasses had slid down my nose. I had a rivet gun in my left hand, with a piece of metal sticking out below my hand, and i raised my left hand up to use my left hand pinky finger to push my glasses up my nose. Bottom of rivet gun hit my tooth, chipped it. Didn't even bleed, and I shouldn't have reported it...it blew up into a huge deal, with the company breaking the law and my right to privacy....but, thats niether here nor there.
THAT DAY, about 3 hours later, I had a piss test. Came up positive for THC. I was embarrassed as hell, angry as hell at my luck. It did not show up in a hair folicle test, but then again maybe I was lucky. They tested me for alcohol and THC.....I new I would pass both...little did I know.
Sorry, the entire pot issues is so blown up with myths, and so many people who have never experienced what I did claim that second hand doesn't show up, but again, sorry-it does.
Ha! Yeah, we'll legalize it, and people will follow the rules on POT right? Peopel drink in public, people drink and drive, people break smoking laws ALL THE TIME. But, these same law breakers who already smoke pot will suddenly decide NOT to break rules at work or laws, and smoke only in the confines of their own home. SURE. Since you know this, maybe you can also clear up for us who REALLY killed kennedy? Because again, you are obviously high.
AGAIN, I apologize. Don't mean to inject common sense and reality into this conversation......
"What sick, barbaric bastards.
It's one thing to use terrorism to make a political statement, but the wanton mutilation and suffering of innocents? How does that forward your political goals? When done in the name of religion, how does that earn you brownie points with God?
Fuck religious extremism. And especially fuck the "religion of peace." "
So, lagcsocialist supports terrorism AS LONG AS ITS FOR POLITICAL ENDS....
Sorry but I simply don't believe your tale. Arnulf would be proud of your effort tho.
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