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    Thumbs up Carbine arrived.

    Rifle looks brand new. It is an Inland receiver with a 9-43 Inland barrel. Looks like a new M2 stock. Stock cartouche is SA over SHM. Muzzle 1, throat 1. Bore is mirror bright. Has a bayonet mount and adjustable rear sight. I will post a pic when I get my camera to work. It failed me at the car show last weekend. I cannot be happier. Every rifle I have bought from the CMP has been outstanding....chris

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    Envious. Hope you get that camera working. Bet that is a real nice rifle.
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    Sounds nice, CONGRATS!!!

    Looking forward to pictures of your new prize!

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    So nice, waiting on the photos.

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    Carbine serial number is in the 200K range, an early one. The barrel date is 3-43 so it is in the correct date range to be original. I have photos but I forget how to load them....chris

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    No not original on the barrel date IMO. Inland made just over 2.6 million of the 6.2 million carbines. The first ones are made in 1942, production stopped in 1945. Doing simple math Inland made just over 2 million each year. Assuming they got off to a slow start and only made about 1 to 1.5 million in the first year your receiver would of been very very early in production. Possibly in the first month of production, I would think certainly within the first 6 months of production. Therefore the barrel should have a 1942 date.

    Additionally it would of had no bayonet lug (merely a barrel band at the front of the stock) and a flip leaf rear sight that was very small. All the windage and elevation adjustable carbine rear sights cover up the engraving on the receivers because they were not part of the original designs. You have to remember the carbine was conceived as a replacment for the 1911 side arm so that officers had something better than a .45 ACP handgun to go into action with.

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    Regardless of original or not. I am still envious. Still waiting for pics. Plus "original" is just a relative term with these isn't it? I thought they were all mix and match anyway eight from the start....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuetzenman View Post
    No not original on the barrel date IMO. Inland made just over 2.6 million of the 6.2 million carbines. The first ones are made in 1942, production stopped in 1945. Doing simple math Inland made just over 2 million each year. Assuming they got off to a slow start and only made about 1 to 1.5 million in the first year your receiver would of been very very early in production. Possibly in the first month of production, I would think certainly within the first 6 months of production. Therefore the barrel should have a 1942 date.

    Additionally it would of had no bayonet lug (merely a barrel band at the front of the stock) and a flip leaf rear sight that was very small. All the windage and elevation adjustable carbine rear sights cover up the engraving on the receivers because they were not part of the original designs. You have to remember the carbine was conceived as a replacment for the 1911 side arm so that officers had something better than a .45 ACP handgun to go into action with.
    My serial number is in the mfg range of 5-42 to 9-43, 6-999999. I think my barrel is original as the date of the barrel is 3-43.

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    Can't remember how to post pictures.

    Need some help here, guys. chris

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    I think it's entirely possible for it to have a 42 receiver and a 43 bbl. I have a mid 42 build Hallicrafters SX28 (per the serial number) that has many tubes with 43 datecodes and JAN markings, JAN meaning Joint Army Navy milspec tubes, likely have been in the radio since it left the factory if there was a shortage of appropriate tubes when the radio was made. All radio production was shifted from consumer to military close to the entry of the US into the war, but before that most makers were loaded down with foreign orders so things in US factories were chaotic even before the US jumped in.

    http://www.ohio.edu/people/postr/bapix/sx28.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by coppertales View Post
    My serial number is in the mfg range of 5-42 to 9-43, 6-999999. I think my barrel is original as the date of the barrel is 3-43.
    With a 1 for the muzzle, no way in hell. It might be a replacement barrel from a plauseable date. There would be cleaning rod wear on an original issue barrel and your rifling would not be so very pristine. Granted all carbine ammo has been noncorrosive from the beginning but unless it was an armory queen it got shot a lot over the years before it made to you through CMP.

    http://uscarbinecal30m1.com/Production.aspx
    MFG __________________________________Month Year Ending Serial #
    Inland - Inland Manufacturing Division of GM May 1942 999,999
    Inland - Inland Manufacturing Division of GM September 1943 3,212,519

    You did say your sr# was 200,000 right? Therefore it would of been made prior to May 1942 as those numbers went up to just short of 1 million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuetzenman View Post
    With a 1 for the muzzle, no way in hell. It might be a replacement barrel from a plauseable date. There would be cleaning rod wear on an original issue barrel and your rifling would not be so very pristine. Granted all carbine ammo has been noncorrosive from the beginning but unless it was an armory queen it got shot a lot over the years before it made to you through CMP.

    http://uscarbinecal30m1.com/Production.aspx
    MFG __________________________________Month Year Ending Serial #
    Inland - Inland Manufacturing Division of GM May 1942 999,999
    Inland - Inland Manufacturing Division of GM September 1943 3,212,519

    You did say your sr# was 200,000 right? Therefore it would of been made prior to May 1942 as those numbers went up to just short of 1 million.
    The date of mfg is really a non-issue as the rifle has gone through rearsenal. I am just happy I received a like new rifle....chris

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    My M-1 Carbine was made in 1943 and the barrel is dated for 1943 as well. I assumed everything was original as all parts, as far as I can tell, were from the same manufacturer. Mine also gaged, using the bullet method, well less than 3, looking almost brand new. I have to agree with your final assessment, though. It looks and shoots like a new rifle. I am not unhappy at all.
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    http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...P1010129_1.jpg

    Here is a pic of my two carbines. The top pic is the Inland I just received. The bottom is a Underwood, Baverian Rural Police I received from the CMP a few years ago....chris

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    The upper one does look much less used. Both look good, though.
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    Yep it looks like a new from the arsenal refurb, very minty. Congrats.

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    Beautiful looking carbines

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    Did anyone notice the difference between the two rear adjustable sights?

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