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    Remember the book 1984?

    And while you could turn the volume down you could never
    turn the TV off. Interesting petition here

    https://www.americancommitment.org/cablebox-petition
    While no one ever listens to me,
    I am constantly being told to be quiet.

    In a world of snowflakes,
    be the heat..

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    Your phone and computer preform the functions of the camera equipped televisions of Orwell's 1984.

    Something Orwell could not have imagined, however, is that computers of the future (our present) can track huge amounts of data on an incredible amount of people without the need for supervision from individual human beings. Meaning that the methods of information control and management as well as domestic spying are much more insidious than even he imagined.

    I hate to be such a downer, but the republic died years ago and we've been living in 1984 for a while now. Thankfully, or not depending on your view, our slavery is soft enough that for the most part we don't have to be beaten or starved into submission. Unless of course you fail to pay your taxes or you publicly shame the powers that be.
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    here was a movie too I recall..... Thanks a lot another movie I'll be ordering now

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    Where as you say the slavery is soft I am still old enough to feel and understand what is going on.
    This is why I am so concerned.
    While no one ever listens to me,
    I am constantly being told to be quiet.

    In a world of snowflakes,
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    here was a movie too I recall..... Thanks a lot another movie I'll be ordering now
    Yeah there was a movie, but I also remember that in American Lit. class,
    we had to read 1984, Animal Farm and Lord of the Flies. I doubt nowadays
    you would be able to find these books in high school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by l921428x View Post
    Yeah there was a movie, but I also remember that in American Lit. class,
    we had to read 1984, Animal Farm and Lord of the Flies. I doubt nowadays
    you would be able to find these books in high school.

    They still read 1984. I don't think the way it is taught really challenges the system of authority in the world today as the powers that be have found more subtle means of control than outright Stalinism. If the book were taught with any honesty the teacher would draw parallels between the fictional/Stalinist methods of control and modern methods of control including the modern SJW/PC agenda acting as a form of thought police working to create intellectual homogeneity as well as the methods of information tracking used by today's authorities.
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    While no one ever listens to me,
    I am constantly being told to be quiet.

    In a world of snowflakes,
    be the heat..

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    I'm thinking of Brazil.......Damn I was trying to figure out what movie held a big impression on me when I was younger couldn't remember the name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    I'm thinking of Brazil.......Damn I was trying to figure out what movie held a big impression on me when I was younger couldn't remember the name.

    Terry Gilliam's Brazil is absolutely brilliant!

    Make sure you watch more than one edit of the film. Each version has a different feel throughout, and different endings.
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    Last night I watched the movie "V for Vendetta" which is a very good rip-off of 1984 set in Britain only using modern surveillance methods. Very scary.

    One scene which will not ruin it for anyone who hasn't seen it blew my mind, when "V" states "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." Another time when a top cop getting out of his car says to his partner when asked what he thinks is going to happen: "What usually happens when people without guns stand up to people *with* guns."

    Fastest two hours I have spent in a long time, good movie.

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    Another good one is Fahrenheit 451.

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    I try and explain the tyranny to every young person who is capable of grasping ideas. Some get it, others seem to glaze over, but we need to focus on the youth. The other side is focusing on them, and has been for years, fight infowars with info and point out the disinfo whenever you encounter it.

    These are indeed strange days, and the strangeness gets stranger day by day. It's an interesting time to be alive, and I never thought I'd be living in an epic story comparable to the ancient works.

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    I HATED 451. Really thought that was extremely over rated. 1984 great. And personally I thought V was a huge attempt at slapping the Bush admin in the face. Look at the actors and directors who made it, and think about what was said of the Bush admin by hollywood at the time, and how those actors and directors talked publicly avout Bush and the GOP....total slap. And the fact many repubs never saw this and loved the film blew me away.



    Edited to add, and I know its just from Wikipedia, but I don't have a ton of time, so....

    '[The movie] has been "turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country.... It's a thwarted and frustrated and largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values standing up against a state run by neoconservatives – which is not what the comic V for Vendetta was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about England.'

    Alan Moore, creator and writer of the V series.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta

    Just making my point about why I detested V so much. Saw right through it.
    Last edited by Ruskiegunlover; 04-18-2016 at 06:27 AM.
    "What sick, barbaric bastards.

    It's one thing to use terrorism to make a political statement, but the wanton mutilation and suffering of innocents? How does that forward your political goals? When done in the name of religion, how does that earn you brownie points with God?

    Fuck religious extremism. And especially fuck the "religion of peace." "

    So, lagcsocialist supports terrorism AS LONG AS ITS FOR POLITICAL ENDS....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruskiegunlover View Post
    I HATED 451. Really thought that was extremely over rated. 1984 great. And personally I thought V was a huge attempt at slapping the Bush admin in the face. Look at the actors and directors who made it, and think about what was said of the Bush admin by hollywood at the time, and how those actors and directors talked publicly avout Bush and the GOP....total slap. And the fact many repubs never saw this and loved the film blew me away.



    Edited to add, and I know its just from Wikipedia, but I don't have a ton of time, so....

    '[The movie] has been "turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country.... It's a thwarted and frustrated and largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values standing up against a state run by neoconservatives – which is not what the comic V for Vendetta was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about England.'

    Alan Moore, creator and writer of the V series.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta

    Just making my point about why I detested V so much. Saw right through it.
    Funny, this is why I enjoyed V, as a slap against the Brits and the idea that security is more valued over freedom. Was that a slap against Bush2? Yes really as shown by his TSA and Homeland Security being the same value security over freedom (See statements by Ben Franklin).

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    The left hated bush for being anti gay marraige, anti abortion, anti aborted fetus stem cell research, and as a fascist. A fascist who started wars based on lies about twrrorism to get himself and his buddies rich.

    Thats all what the president in the film is depicted to be. A right wing lieing fascist. I know thats not possible as fascism is a leftwing ideology.....but the average idiot on the street wouldnt know that. Which is why most republicans and americans I know denied it was a hit piece on bush. It so obviously was.

    Remember bush lied people died? What did the leader in V do to start a war on terrorism?
    Last edited by Ruskiegunlover; 04-18-2016 at 07:19 PM.
    "What sick, barbaric bastards.

    It's one thing to use terrorism to make a political statement, but the wanton mutilation and suffering of innocents? How does that forward your political goals? When done in the name of religion, how does that earn you brownie points with God?

    Fuck religious extremism. And especially fuck the "religion of peace." "

    So, lagcsocialist supports terrorism AS LONG AS ITS FOR POLITICAL ENDS....

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    Quote Originally Posted by l921428x View Post
    And while you could turn the volume down you could never
    turn the TV off. Interesting petition here

    https://www.americancommitment.org/cablebox-petition


    Unfortunately the FCC has proposed a government mandate to allow Google and other tech giants to track which programs you watch, bombard you with targeted advertising, and use or sell data about you or your children's viewing habits.
    My viewing habits are:

    See if there's anything decent on the History Channel, the Science Channel or NASA Select. Usually there isn't, so I walk away and go back to doing something fun like melting metal in my forge or (re)cleaning a few guns, building (or finishing) a model airplane or working on a small microcontroller program.

    If the .gov wants to "track" me, they'll need to be sitting next to me, because there's nothing else to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyPertwee View Post
    Your phone and computer preform the functions of the camera equipped televisions of Orwell's 1984.
    My phone is usually not charged and my computer would be no fun to search through.

    Aside from Gunsnet posts or my latest order of electronic parts from Digi-Key, there ain't nuthin' to see.

    (then again they MAY look at my order for FRS radios, transistors, large low ESR capacitors and fast switching SCR's and put 2 and 2 together......)


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