Over 24 hours later and there is still no clear chain of events.
He showed up at the club door brandishing the rifle? It was hidden somehow and he went inside? Where did the gunfire with the security / off-duty cop happen? What was the result of that? What do survivors say he was doing inside for 3 hours?
The lessons of Columbine were, I thought, clear: engage the attacker ASAP
Uh, Mr. Resident, yes there is something that is supposed to prohibit him from buying those guns. It's called the NICS check. So, in essence, the Federal Government, willingly and knowingly (by your own admission), allowed him to purchase those guns.Originally Posted by 5.56NATO
Let's place the blame where it belongs.
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Multiple Suspects On The Loose In Orlando - Why The Media Blackout Of Eyewitness Accounts?
According to heavily censored eyewitness reports, totally suppressed from the mainstream, there were likely several other radicalized perpetrators involved with Saturday night’s terror attack, which led deaths of 49 club-goers at Pulse and over 50 others being injured.
One eyewitness to the attack, who was inside the nightclub when it happened, was giving his testimony to the attack, after being trapped inside the club, live on-air, to a mainstream news source when he was abruptly cut off after providing a crucial detail. The eyewitness said that during the attack “there was a guy there that was trying to […] hold the door closed so that we couldn’t exit,” as pointed out by an investigative reporter on YouTube.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...tness-accounts
Has ISIS Infiltrated Homeland Security? Orlando Terrorist Worked for Major DHS Contractor
http://counterjihad.com/isis-infiltr...dhs-contractor
Last edited by 5.56NATO; 06-13-2016 at 03:22 PM.
"And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"
Ed Henson, a retired New York Police Department detective who worked at the Twin Towers during the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, explained his employees were not to blame for selling weapons to the alleged Islamic State-inspired terrorist.
"An evil person came in here and legally purchased firearms from us. If he hadn't purchased them from us, he would have got them from a local gun store in the area," Henson told reporters in a press conference Monday afternoon. "We follow the rules, we don't make the rules."
Henson said his employees fulfilled all state and federal mandates when they conducted two separate background checks on Mateen. The now-deceased gunman had gone in to the store three times: June 4, 5 and 9.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/or...rticle/2593779
Muslim worked for dhs contractor, passes dhs/fbi nics checks twice, had been under dhs/fbi investigation previously.
This is how dhs keeps America safe.
Reddit Bans Users, Deletes Comments That Say Orlando Terrorist Was Muslim
http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/12/re...#ixzz4BV68BBdb
Man overheard shooter’s phone conversation; shooter said there were 4 others involved, ‘3 snipers and 1 woman suicide bomber’
https://www.intellihub.com/man-overh...-conversation/
Orlando Nightclub Gunman Scouted Walt Disney World as Potential Target: Source
http://www.people.com/article/omar-m...couted-attacks
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"And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"
The age of political correctness is coming to an end. Enjoy your safe spaces while they last you liberal fucks.
Congratulations...you SJW's woke us up. We're here now. Globalism is over. Open borders is done. Free speech will continue. No ones taking our firearms.
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He had not been found guilty of anything so why take his rights away? The government is already trying to lump conservative, Bible reading, gun shooting, Constitution believing Americans in with extremists. If we allow peoples gun rights (or any other rights) to be taken away just because they are under investigation soon all of our Second Amendment rights will be gone and only liberal, atheists, Democrats will own firearms. Had he been taken to court, been allowed to defend himself and face his accuser, and been found guilty of a crime then we can take his rights away as we practiced due process. We cannot take peoples rights away based on suspicion and still be considered even a moderately free country. The moment we go there we become a tyrannical government.
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Shooter used a glock G17 and a Sig mcx, which comes in both rifle and pistol options both with a folding stock, the pistol has a sig brace of course. The mcx comes in 5.56 and 300 black out.
So if he used the mcx pistol with sig brace I can see the pistol brace fad getting a federal ban, and possibly rifle caliber pistols as well.
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What did he do to get investigated by dhs/fbi in the first place? His coworkers maybe reported him as he is quoted as telling them gays should die, as well as black people, maybe he is friends with isis people, who knows. You figure being friends with isis would result in arrest or at least failing the nics check for support of terrorism.
"And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"
What I would like to do with Obama or any other idiot who calls for "more gun control" is this: Hand them a piece of paper and a pen, then ask them to write down "what words would have stopped this shooter or any other shooter?"
If they were truthful () the paper would remain blank.
There is no law, no policy and no "threat" that will stop a person determined to commit violence from doing so.
Can you imagine it?
Omar: Gee I sure do hate those fags and I'm going to do Allah's work and kill as many of them before they kill me. Praise be to Allah!
Law: But, you can't - it's illegal.
Omar: Oh snap! Didn't know that. My bad. I'll just go home now.
Politicians actually believe that they can say the above and it will actually work!
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Very good point. The majority cannot be punished for the random acts of a few nutjobs (although if one is a gun owner that's EXACTLY what happens).
This Omar clown was from NY I think. How did he get an "assault style rifle" (whatever that is)? Surely he obeyed the "Safe" act and only carried 10 round mags, loaded only with 7 rounds and had his rifles registered with the NYSP?
After all, it's the "law".
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I'm just wondering how many red flags it takes the FBI to haul the guy in and charge him with a crime.....His dad too. Runs a webcast anti American, providing aid and comfort to the Taliban, a terrorist group...Isn't that some kind of crime? This stinks of political correctness or intentionally letting it happen.
News says "accomplice" to be arrested;
Sources told Channel 9 Monday that law enforcement could possibly make an arrest in the next few days of someone who might have been aware that Mateen was planning to carryout the mass shooting inside Pulse nightclub that killed 49 people on Sunday.
"We have no reason to believe that anyone connected to this crime is placing the public in imminent danger at this time," said US Attorney Lee Bentley.
http://www.wftv.com/news/local/break...ting/340126409
"There were no other shooters in @pulseorlando, per @OrlandoPolice. Please stop assuming or insinuating otherwise.
— Karla Ray (@KRayWFTV) June 14, 2016"
Then why did witnesses say there was someone holding the doors closed? Why did witnesses say there was more than one shooter?
"And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"
Drudge has reports that he was Gay and the bartender says he's been a regular for years!
Orlando Shooting Survivor Plays Dead to Escape Shooter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRBAUYUlAps
5 Reasons to Question the Official Story of the Orlando Shooting
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/06/...c772-369077697
BREAKING. FBI Director Jamey Comey “Confused” About Motives Of Orlando Shooter
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016...shooter-vidoo/
"And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"
Dear King Barack,
Why do you want to ban AR-15s when it now turns out the guy was using a Sig MCX Carbine??????????????????
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/13/dem-rep-makes-a-big-claim-about-ar-15-rifle-and-conservative-journalist-offers-50k-if-he-can-prove-it/
Armed suspect killed at Amarillo Walmart, 2 hostages safe
http://www.kxxv.com/story/32218405/p...n-canyon-drive
Shooter Somalian employee of the store. No injuries, but in progress.
— Alison Arkin (@Cronikeys) June 14, 2016
EXCLUSIVE: Inside the suburban home of a terrorist: Gunman's Star Wars-themed bathroom, child's Ninja Turtle backpack, a Christmas wreath on the door and books - 'Crucial Matters in the Life of Muslim' and 'Being Palestinian Makes me Smile'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3639587
They let the media rummage around the San Bernardino muslims home too.
Pulse patron admits he blocked escape of others on video;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuGSZAF-gWg
Fox talking head comes out in favor of awb;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=FnQdAxmePVw
Last edited by 5.56NATO; 06-14-2016 at 05:36 PM.
"And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"
Watching the news again
They just interviewed a victim in the hospital
She was hiding in the bathroom when he came in. His gun jammed as she was peeking through the stall door
She said she saw him set his "machine gun" down on the floor to clear it
We now know it wasn't an AR and they are looking very closely at how much his ex knew before hand
For peace of mind, resign as general manager of the universe
I'm gonna take her word with a grain of of salt, I doubt her knowledge of firearms extends beyond the difference of a pistol and rifle.
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Jeh Johnson: Gun control is now a matter of homeland security
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/orlando-...land-security/
“In 1949, during the McCarthy era, my own grandfather was called upon to testify before the House Un-American Activities Committee, to deny he was a member of the Communist Party and defend the patriotism of African-Americans,” Johnson said.
“Today his grandson is responsible for the homeland security of this entire nation,”
"Subversion: While speaking to Muslims last week, Homeland Security chief Jeh Johnson revealed why he’s so protective of them. He compared growing suspicions cast on them to the plight of his communist kin.
Johnson dropped the bombshell that his grandfather had been investigated for communism and un-American activities. We can’t say we’re surprised. Add him to the parade of Red diaper babies in the Cabinet, including top White House advisor Valerie Jarrett, former political advisor David Axelrod and President Obama himself.
No wonder this administration isn’t interested in monitoring radical Muslims for terrorist connections.
“In 1949, during the McCarthy era, my own grandfather was called upon to testify before the House Un-American Activities Committee, to deny he was a member of the Communist Party and defend the patriotism of African-Americans,” Johnson said in a speech to the ADAMS Center in Sterling, Va., a mosque founded by alleged radical Muslim Brotherhood leaders."
http://www.investors.com/politics/ed...d-diaper-baby/
DHS Sec. Protecting Muslims from McCarthyism his Communist Grandpa Lived Under
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...a-lived-under/
Last edited by 5.56NATO; 06-14-2016 at 07:57 PM.
"And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"
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