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    U.S. and Russian Jets Clash Over Syria

    The headline's a wee bit misleading, the jets didn't "clash". Russia bombed some moderate isis guys and the 0bama regime sent f18s to follow them, when the f18s left to refuel, Russia came back and bombed the moderate isis rescue workers.



    "U.S. and Russian fighter jets bloodlessly tangled in the air over Syria on June 16 as the American pilots tried and failed to stop the Russians from bombing U.S.-backed rebels in southern Syria near the border with Jordan.

    The aerial close encounter underscores just how chaotic Syria’s skies have become as Russia and the U.S.-led coalition work at cross-purposes, each dropping bombs in support of separate factions in the five-year-old civil war.

    The near-clash also highlights the escalating risk of American and Russian forces actually coming to blows over Syria, potentially sparking a much wider conflict between the world’s leading nuclear powers."
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ver-syria.html
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    We should leave that area to the Ruskies. They know how to handle muslims. Moderate Isis? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altarboy View Post
    We should leave that area to the Ruskies. They know how to handle muslims. Moderate Isis? Lol
    Moderate muslims .......Every time I hear that term I think of jackbag M<Cain wanting to arm scum of the earth.

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    http://warmonitor.net/news/2016/06/2...adiness-alert/
    US on Increased Military Readiness Alert


    -OSINT and other sources indicate that the US military has gone into full nuclear readiness mode.
    -Military channels are transmitting unusual encrypted messages at 11175 Khz.
    -Sources indicate that multiple armed US bombers are in the air. Some bases no longer have any grounded aircraft.
    -Fighters are also in the air.
    -Past few days, “Doomsday” planes have become commonplace.
    -Local civilians are making report of increased activity at US military bases across the country.
    -DWS has moved to DEFCON 3, DWS sources have been confirmed by WM sources.
    -US response appears to be a reflection of Russian activities, based on available information.
    -Buzzer at 4625 KHz is no longer active.
    -Constant EAM’s now, operators sound a little nervous, are making mistakes.
    -High military air traffic in US/EU. E-4 in the air, along with a Sentry watching N. Poland.

    At this time, U.S. and Russian forces are in the air, likely moving to control points. We have no reports of any engagements. Domestic assets are moving into defensive positions. -DWS

    This does not mean that war is inevitable, but it could indicate that US forces are on alert. Check back later as more information available.

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    This ain't good. I wish we would leave the Russians alone.

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    King Barack wants to leave a legacy. I just hope the moron's legacy isn't the total destruction of the free world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by studmuffin View Post
    http://warmonitor.net/news/2016/06/2...adiness-alert/
    US on Increased Military Readiness Alert


    -OSINT and other sources indicate that the US military has gone into full nuclear readiness mode.
    -Military channels are transmitting unusual encrypted messages at 11175 Khz.
    -Sources indicate that multiple armed US bombers are in the air. Some bases no longer have any grounded aircraft.
    -Fighters are also in the air.
    -Past few days, “Doomsday” planes have become commonplace.
    -Local civilians are making report of increased activity at US military bases across the country.
    -DWS has moved to DEFCON 3, DWS sources have been confirmed by WM sources.
    -US response appears to be a reflection of Russian activities, based on available information.
    -Buzzer at 4625 KHz is no longer active.
    -Constant EAM’s now, operators sound a little nervous, are making mistakes.
    -High military air traffic in US/EU. E-4 in the air, along with a Sentry watching N. Poland.

    At this time, U.S. and Russian forces are in the air, likely moving to control points. We have no reports of any engagements. Domestic assets are moving into defensive positions. -DWS

    This does not mean that war is inevitable, but it could indicate that US forces are on alert. Check back later as more information available.

    Interesting.
    However, 11175 (and other hfgcs frequencies) always has eams and skyking traffic, eams are especially cryptic but commonplace as in several per hour is typical. You can ignore skykings but eams are emergency action messages that go out to bomber crews, missile silos, subs and so on. When the first Gulf war started they threw out an eam on hfgcs that was like 130 characters long. Also, the naoc/neacp flights are also very common as in one was up yesterday, they're not like lookinglass flights of old where at least one was flying 24/7 for decades.

    Skyking skyking do not answer, 0bamajugend, time 0016 - example skyking broadcast
    For terminate, for terminate, oscar, five, sierra, echo, delta, six, etc etc - eam broadcast

    That being said, the lack of "buzzer" traffic on 4625, and the fact that yesterday or the day before lots of flash precedence traffic was copied from Russian command posts means something may indeed be afoot. The buzzer is alleged to be part of the dead mans hand switch, where if Russia is taken out by a surprise nuclear attack, automated launch systems take over for a retaliatory nuclear strike on the west. The buzzer being broadcast from Russia isn't a common listening catch in the US, but at night it may be readable on the east coast and is commonly copied by listeners in Europe.

    The thing is Russia maintains a lot of radio comms tecniques just as they did in ww2, ie hf cw (high frequency morse code) is used by many services, from airforce to naval to air defense. There are certain beacon frequencies the Russian air force uses every time a Bear mission is aloft or imminent, backed up by hf ssb voice frequencies. The beacon freq will carry a single letter sent in morse over and over until the mission is completed. If they suddenly observe radio silence that may be the time to expect an attack, as they observed radio silence before pretty much every major attack they made in ww2.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Go here;
    http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
    Find the box labeled frequency and enter 4625 and hit enter, the transmission is in am mode but you can hear it just as well in ssb.
    This web receiver in the Netherlands isn't located too far away from Russia, hence why the signal is easily heard.
    I'm listening to "the buzzer" right now. It sometimes has a voice message in Russian but not often.
    Anyway it's operating normaly as I type this. The sig on 11175 is still present, have to run some decoders to see what it is, sounds like an retired/obsolescent stanag 39 tone psk modem, with the pilot tone and all.

    Now that I think about it, if "the buzzer" was down for maintenance or something that might explain the extraodrinary flash precedence traffic on Russia's high command circuits as they take up the slack.
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    Saw some Fox news the other day. The two perspectives they were offering were: D) Continue bombing and arming rebels R) boots on the ground in Iraq and Syria.

    Both parties are pushing for war, and the media is complicit in both Republican and Democrat allied networks, acting as propaganda outlets for both.

    We're going to be stuck with increasingly authoritarian domestic policies and interventionist foreign policies no matter who wins this election. (although there is possibly some sliver of hope that Trump's trade wars could be less likely to lead to WW3 than the military interventionism of the neocons in both parties.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    Go here;
    http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
    Find the box labeled frequency and enter 4625 and hit enter, the transmission is in am mode but you can hear it just as well in ssb.
    This web receiver in the Netherlands isn't located too far away from Russia, hence why the signal is easily heard.
    I'm listening to "the buzzer" right now. It sometimes has a voice message in Russian but not often.
    Anyway it's operating normaly as I type this. The sig on 11175 is still present, have to run some decoders to see what it is, sounds like an retired/obsolescent stanag 39 tone psk modem, with the pilot tone and all.

    Now that I think about it, if "the buzzer" was down for maintenance or something that might explain the extraodrinary flash precedence traffic on Russia's high command circuits as they take up the slack.

    The buzzer went down for a while in 2011 I believe, and now broadcasts from another location inside Russia.

    Anyway, what do you think of this? https://twitter.com/4625kHz
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyPertwee View Post
    The buzzer went down for a while in 2011 I believe, and now broadcasts from another location inside Russia.

    Anyway, what do you think of this? https://twitter.com/4625kHz
    Looks like they're taking the voice messages copied on the buzzer and reporting them.
    Here's a voice message copied and pasted to youtube;
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YatKCf42TrM
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    Looks like they're taking the voice messages copied on the buzzer and reporting them.
    Here's a voice message copied and pasted to youtube;
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YatKCf42TrM

    Voice messages are rare on the buzzer I think. This twitter channel has been tweeting a coded message every minute or so since June 2010, I believe around the same time the buzzer first went down.
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    On the 11175 signal, keep in mind 11175 is the day primary for USAF hfgcs, 8992 being the night primary. These USAF comms are ssb voice mode almost always, they resort to discrete frequencies for digital modes and other voice traffic such as phone patches. The signal that has been covering 11175 for the last few days is likely the AT3004D modem in use by Russia, apparently Russia is jamming hfgcs. When Klinton was bombing Serbia to protect the Albanian jihadists back in the 90s, Serbia or Russia jammed the hfgcs day primary with voice traffic, a male with a slavic accent harangued NATO and USAF in english. I guess now they're going digital with their jamming efforts.

    hfgcs
    http://wiki.radioreference.com/index...cations_System

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    http://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/CIS-12
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    It's all fun and games till someone gets hurt.
    US destroyer cuts off Russkii warship.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Why the hell are we screwing with them when the barbarians are at our gate and in our cities? Oh yeah....

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    The U.S. has accused Russia of intentionally interfering with its Navy operations.

    New video released by Russia shows the moment that a Russian frigate, the Neustrashimyy, and the U.S. Navy’s USS Gravely crossed paths in the eastern Mediterranean two weeks ago. Russia’s defense ministry claimed the U.S. ship made a “dangerous approach” on its warship, saying it “grossly breached” international maritime laws. The ministry said the U.S. sailors were “allowing themselves to forget about the fundamental principles of safe sailing” and didn’t think about the potential consequences of their dangerous maneuver.

    But U.S. officials told a very different version of events and they said the video is a clever piece of editing by the Russians.

    U.S. officials stated that the USS Gravely was escorting the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman on June 17 when a Russian frigate approached it in an “unsafe and unprofessional” manner.
    https://gma.yahoo.com/us-officials-r...opstories.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    Moderate muslims .......Every time I hear that term I think of jackbag M<Cain wanting to arm scum of the earth.
    And disarm the American citizen at the same time, makes one scratch their head, right ?

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    This will end well;

    Taiwan warship accidentally fires 'aircraft carrier killer' missile with a range of 200 miles towards China killing a fishermen
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4DAcLMv4B
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    Ouch. That's not good. In fact, there doesn't seem to be any good news out there. At every turn, there is a report of a new Chinese or Russian weapon. And we are paying for sex change operations of soldiers. It gets to me after a while.

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