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    To me, it's become clear that the Vegas casino influence has been deployed to shut up the police and FBI in preparation for the deluge of lawsuits to come. Facts will come out, but it will be over years in court.

    -Paddock's movements in the week or so before the event
    -Paddock's computer and phone history
    -Video footage from the hotel
    -Etc

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    Laura Loomer Las Vegas EXCLUSIVE Footage in Mandalay Bay shows body covered w: white towel on floor
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPDWXlCgb4

    Undercover Spying on FBI Vegas Clean Up Crew with Telescopic Lens
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=5cVxIp6x5u0
    this one is worth watching

    Vegas Shooter’s Laptop From Hotel Room Is Missing its Hard Drive
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ng-hard-drive/
    sure it is, just like fbi wiped clean every phone or other device that was handed them for evidence
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    There is so much about Las Vegas that doesn't make sense.... I get the feeling we are being played....
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    and his brother has been busted with kiddie pr0n
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen Keller View Post
    and his brother has been busted with kiddie pr0n
    you think that's real or leverage to shut him up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alismith View Post
    There is so much about Las Vegas that doesn't make sense.... I get the feeling we are being played....
    Most of the stuff that doesn't make sense are the conspiracy based items that don't actually exist. Folks dig up these items on the web, insert them into the narrative then never go back and do further research to find out the items were explained, refuted or proven entirely false.

    On the internet everyone has the answer but nobody has the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAPOTS View Post
    you think that's real or leverage to shut him up?
    There's a story that Paddock and his brother are the same crisis actor. Here's a interesting pdf on the subject;
    http://mileswmathis.com/lasveg.pdf
    This pdf is the most compelling proponent of the "made for tv" hoax I've read yet.

    Authorities Are Now Refusing To Release Any New Information About The Las Vegas Massacre – FBI Says “It Doesn’t Matter”http://www.thedailysheeple.com/autho...-matter_102017


    “Shots Fired”: Raw Audio Of Mandalay Bay Guard Jesus Campos Reporting Las Vegas Shooting Released
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ting-released/
    Look at this guy, the beard but tiny trimmed mustache is a straight jihadist move. All he needs is a bow tie to be a nation of islam member.

    Jesus Campos Went to Mexico After Las Vegas Shooting; Returned Days Later in Rental Car: Tucker Carlson
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ucker-carlson/
    There's an isis training camp just across the border in old mehico

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    The knee-jerk reaction is to push for gun control. This is what they want. No, we need to become educated, trained and become more aware of our surroundings. I will live, I will learn, I will survive. I have no taste whatsoever for the “fake news media” kool-aid. I prefer whiskey!
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    In closing, if this picture infuriated you more than the fact that lots of people died over a senseless act, congratulations, you’re the problem! VEGAS STRONG!!!!!!!!
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    In similar hoax shootings;
    FBI Releases Docs On Sandy Hook Showing Feds Visited Shooter BEFORE Massacre
    According to reports, most of the shooting occurred in two of the school’s first-grade classrooms; 14 students in one classroom, and six in the other, were murdered. Only two of the victims who were shot by Lanza—both teachers—survived the attack.
    Now, the documents which could lay to rest many of these conspiracy theories have been released by the FBI. At 10:00 AM EST, on Tuesday, the FBI, without any notice, took to Twitter to post the link to over 1,500 pages of documents from their investigation and subsequent findings.
    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/bre...hook-shooting/
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Found the linked site difficult and frustrating to view with all the pop ups. Couple things I noticed. #1. They say it's hard to believe an 85 pound Lanza could carry weapons that weighed nearly as much as he did? Really? A Bushmaster AR, Glock 20 and a SIG 226 weigh close to 85 pounds? I'm thinking what, 10 pounds maybe?

    #2 the fact that a 6 year old child succumbs to a gunshot from a 5.56 rifle while an adult survives seems plausible to me. Don't see the basis for a conspiracy there?
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    Air traffic control tapes on the night of the Las Vegas shooting: "There's active shooters on the runway. They're on the airport property"
    https://twitter.com/MikeTokes/status...185921/video/1
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    Air traffic control tapes on the night of the Las Vegas shooting: "There's active shooters on the runway. They're on the airport property"
    https://twitter.com/MikeTokes/status...185921/video/1
    Also said they are in the process of rounding them up. Rounding up active shooters? Sounds like something is being taken out of context but maybe not. Apparently if you believe all the "real" facts from the web there were actually more shooters than people attending the concert. Something like 50,000 rounds fired from 600+ locations and every shooter was seen and photographed by hundreds of people. Amazing!
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    To quote Shakespeare, "Something is rotten in the State of Denmark."

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    Odd happenings to people who speak against the official narrative;

    Couple that survived Las Vegas shooting dies in auto crash
    http://wfla.com/2017/10/29/couple-th...in-auto-crash/

    Coroner IDs Las Vegas man found shot dead in vacant home
    https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...n-vacant-home/

    Danny Contreras, An Eyewitness Las Vegas Shooting Found Dead
    https://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/t...ing-found-dead

    John Beilman was wanted by federal agents following the discovery of a communications device in the hotel room of the officially identified shooter Stephen Paddock, killed both himself and his disabled daughter in an apparent murder-suicide.
    John Beilman's Fairport home searched by FBI the day before murder-suicide
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ome/738874001/

    Chad Nishimura, the Mandalay Bay valet who parked Stephen Paddock’s car, went missing in the days following the shooting, after giving an interview to a Hawaiian mainstream outlet KITV4 in which he contradicted the official narrative, and pointed out that Paddock “didn’t have many bags.” Mr. Nishimura has yet to surface.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20171003...d-shooters-car
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    What does the dead guy in the vacant house have to do with the Vegas shootings? I didn't see anything in the linked article that made that connection? I'm guessing with 20,000 or so concert goers something is going to happen to some of them sometime.

    Did you know a bunch of the people in Dallas the day Kennedy was killed have since died, some under odd circumstances. Sure it's been over 50 years but it might be connected?
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    Your commentary on JFK is duly noted, and in support of same I post this;

    Former Marine Corps Officer and Philosophy Professor Claims Vegas Shooting Was Hollywood Production
    In a recent interview, Dr. James H. Fetzer, a Distinguished McKnight University Professor Emeritus University of Minnesota Duluth and former Marine Corps officer, said that he believes the entire Vegas shooting was nothing more than a Hollywood production and that "no one died in the Mandalay Bay shooting."

    Dr. Fetzer is also the author of numerous books, several on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
    https://freedomoutpost.com/former-ma...od-production/
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Here's a fairly well done synopsis of the timeline.
    https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100...&nlid=61904650
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    Police NOW SAY- After a Month -That a Officer Discharged Weapon in Paddock’s Hotel Room
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ks-hotel-room/
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    Police NOW SAY- After a Month -That a Officer Discharged Weapon in Paddock’s Hotel Room
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ks-hotel-room/
    "Accidentally?" Or was, perhaps, Paddock still alive and breathing when they found him, and they had to put him down to silence him from being interrogated and telling the truth about what really went down that night?

    "Dead men tell no tales."

    (Conspiracy theories aside, it is kind of odd how someone would commit suicide by shooting themselves in the chest from a frontal position... )
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    "Accidentally?" Or was, perhaps, Paddock still alive and breathing when they found him, and they had to put him down to silence him from being interrogated and telling the truth about what really went down that night?

    "Dead men tell no tales."

    (Conspiracy theories aside, it is kind of odd how someone would commit suicide by shooting themselves in the chest from a frontal position... )
    What I read said, and photos showed blood on his shirt which came from his mouth after the gun he put in it went off. I've seen nothing that verified a chest wound?

    As far as the gun fired in the room the cops could have been in on the whole fake event and killed Paddock to keep him quiet though the other thousands of actors weren't killed so go figure. The more plausible explanation would be a negligent discharge while clearing the suite which the cops tried to coverup. What cop wants to admit he had his finger on the trigger and let one go? The facts finally came out so the PD reported it.

    I grant you it's not as dramatic as the whole conspiracy angle but it's certainly plausible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    What I read said, and photos showed blood on his shirt which came from his mouth after the gun he put in it went off. I've seen nothing that verified a chest wound?
    Oh was it? I thought I read just a couple days after the shooting that he died from a self-inflicted chest wound, and that the blood from his mouth was simply due to him coughing up blood?

    That's part of the problem here: there's so many conflicting stories and information (from the cops themselves) that it only feeds into these conspiracy theories.

    Cops keep trying to spin the details to cover their ass, and it only makes everyone more suspicious of the "official story line."

    One day Campos is a hero who stopped the shooter, the next day he was shot before the incident even started and fled for his life...

    Just hard to take anything as "fact" when there are so many discrepancies from the authorities themselves...
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    I tried a Google search for cause of death and all I could find was "self inflicted gunshot wound" though this Wikipedia entry states it was a wound to the head.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Paddock

    As far as someone shooting themselves in the chest goes I've read that women are more likely not you shoot themselves in the head, vanity I guess. I do know of an incident where I grew up where an elderly gentleman with terminal cancer waited til his wife went shopping. He took down the shower curtain, laid in the bathtub with the shower curtain over him then shot himself through the heart, under the curtain so as not to leave a mess for his wife. Not common but it happens.
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