LAGC, you posted something that I was going to respond to about the investigation of Trump by Mueller was now about obstruction of justice. I have been hearing this for well over a month. Here is a good explanation of how the Mueller investigation was never about collusion but was designed to find some way to tie Trump to an obstruction charge.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ng-impeachment
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Yes, that does now appear to be the case.
What it really boils down to, is the FBI brass is just retaliating over Trump shitcanning Comey. It's nothing but payback time, as far as they are concerned. The "Russia investigation" is all secondary/smokescreen to that.
That's the only reason ANY of this is happening. If Comey hadn't been fired, Sessions would have never had to recuse himself, therefore Rosenstein would have never appointed Mueller, and this whole "witch hunt" would have never took off in the first place.
According to Steve Bannon, it was Kushner who ill-advised Trump to fire Comey in the first place. Supposedly Comey was hot and bothered because Trump wanted a "loyalty oath" from him and asked him to back off investigating Flynn, but its questionable whether it would have ever gotten this far if Comey was just left to his own devices.
So now we'll see how this all plays out.
Could very well be Mueller already tried to indict Jared, but the Grand Jury refused to return a "true bill" (since all it would take is one Grand Jury member to dissent and refuse to go along with the indictment process, if they felt the investigation was getting too close to Trump.)
That's why I also think it's unlikely Mueller will actually try to indict a sitting president himself (which has never happened) but will probably just present his findings to Congress.
A Republican-controlled House may be hesitant to impeach, but if the Democrats win big in November and take back over, that could all change in a hurry.
Why is why, if that does happen, Republicans may want to hurry and impeach themselves during the "lame duck" session at the end of the year, so that they can get President Paul Ryan in there, and not President Nancy Pelosi.
Last edited by LAGC; 01-27-2018 at 07:50 PM.
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Wow!Originally Posted by LAGC
Yes, that does now appear to be the case.
What it really boils down to, is the FBI brass is just retaliating over Trump shitcanning Comey. It's nothing but payback time, as far as they are concerned. The "Russia investigation" is all secondary/smokescreen to that.
That's the only reason ANY of this is happening. If Comey hadn't been fired, Sessions would have never had to recuse himself, therefore Rosenstein would have never appointed Mueller, and this whole "witch hunt" would have never took off in the first place.
According to Steve Bannon, it was Kushner who ill-advised Trump to fire Comey in the first place. Supposedly Comey was hot and bothered because Trump wanted a "loyalty oath" from him and asked him to back off investigating Flynn, but its questionable whether it would have ever gotten this far if Comey was just left to his own devices.
So now we'll see how this all plays out.
Could very well be Mueller already tried to indict Jared, but the Grand Jury refused to return a "true bill" (since all it would take is one Grand Jury member to dissent and refuse to go along with the indictment process, if they felt the investigation was getting too close to Trump.)
That's why I also think it's unlikely Mueller will actually try to indict a sitting president himself (which has never happened) but will probably just present his findings to Congress.
A Republican-controlled House may be hesitant to impeach, but if the Democrats win big in November and take back over, that could all change in a hurry.
Why is why, if that does happen, Republicans may want to hurry and impeach themselves during the "lame duck" session at the end of the year, so that they can get President Paul Ryan in there, and not President Nancy Pelosi.
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New documents show how Mueller quickly expanded investigation
https://gantdaily.com/2018/02/06/new...investigation/Special counsel Robert Mueller asked a government agency last June to preserve documents relating to Donald Trump’s transition to the presidency, according to records obtained by CNN — an indication of how he expanded the investigation soon after his appointment.
The formal preservation request to the General Services Administration, the agency that supports presidential transitions, was sent on June 22, about a month after Mueller was named special counsel.
An email from March 2017 between the FBI and GSA — months before Mueller was appointed — suggests FBI investigators’ interests at that time were narrower. Then the FBI asked GSA to consult with lawmakers before disposing of other transition documents.
The more expansive request came when an agent in the FBI’s counterintelligence division emailed the deputy general counsel at GSA to preserve documents, electronics and communications from the Trump transition team, according to documents CNN obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request.
“As a follow up to our request, we thought it best to send GSA an official preservation letter. Your staff has been extraordinarily responsive and we appreciate their patience with our (my) questions,” the agent wrote, according to the email obtained by CNN. GSA redacted the name of the FBI agent who sent the email.
Mueller was named special counsel in May after the firing of FBI Director James Comey by the President. Mueller was given a broad mandate to continue the investigation started by the FBI into any links, coordination or both between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump campaign and “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation.”
The FBI request to the GSA appears to confirm a fear that the President’s friends warned him about last spring. They worried that a special counsel, which comes with broad authority to investigate any matters deemed relevant, could lead to an expansive investigation beyond what the FBI had in its initial inquiry.
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WHAT IS FUNNY AS HELL is hilliary was supposed to win and NONE of this would have come to light.
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