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•" We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. " George Orwell
So know one saw him coming in with the weapon?
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I do agree, though, that having a PERP ALIVE is better. Why? when the perp is dead the LEFT have no one to blame so they blame the rest of us. As long as he is alive, we have the case of saying "The person you need to BLAME is alive and sitting in shackles in the courtroom".
With dead perps, there is no one to punish, thus the antis (and even well meaning ignorant people) lash out at everyone. This is actually helpful because there is a definite person to actually BLAME for the horrific deed.
I bet his parents are Dems and he is an atheist. I heard he was a former student and that many of the students in the school identified the shooter immediately. He ditched the gun then tried to sneak out with a group of students.
"That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E
Shooter has been identified as one Nikolas de Jesus Cruz.
Looks a little Adam Lanza-ish if you ask me.
Anyone want to lay any bets he was on a psychiatric treatment plan at the time?
"That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E
We need armed guards controlling entrance and egress to schools. Teachers should be armed and trained. This punk who was caught needs to be put in a prison situation where he will be raped and tortured on a daily basis (multiple times each day) and then executed.
"That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E
Geeez ... I wonder what y'all would say about my high school yearbook picture?
Just because he's a wacadoo that short up a school doesn't mean he's on psychotropic drugs ... but maybe he needs to be.
"And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"
He was in treatment for mental illness and stopped. His mother died 3 months ago and he was living in the trailer park home of another student. Unfortunately he was allowed to purchase the AR-15 rifle. Students that knew him are reported to have said that they thought he would shoot up the school some day, turns out that was yesterday. Lots of warning signs on this one and yet ...! Unarmed wrestling coach was one of the 17 that died as he attempted to stop him while unarmed. When are we going to let teachers be armed? Unarmed security people is no security at all, just more targets for the evil crazy bastards like this scum-bag.
Israel had a major problem with muzzies coming into their schools and killing their kids. Problem solved in one pic. Its' past time the left understood the 2nd amendment is not going away and neither are criminals and crazies. Past time to train and arm teachers and school staff.
Even just the threat of armed resistance is a deterrent. But why do they have to parade so many through
a damn press conference? My god tell us you have no further information and move on....
While no one ever listens to me,
I am constantly being told to be quiet.
In a world of snowflakes,
be the heat..
There was a continuous string of everyone with condolences on FOX while waiting for President Trump ... Almost every one said the same thing, it couldn't have been any more scripted. I did have to laugh a little when the reporter said "the suspect was armed with an AR-14 ... Almost 40 years of 24 hour news coverage and the reporters still can't get it right.
Last edited by kimberkid; 02-15-2018 at 12:07 PM.
He's got those crazy eyes...
"That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E
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