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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    Most of the mass shooters passed a background check because they never committed any crimes before. I wonder exactly how they are going to tighten up background checks........The friggin FBI and Coward county deputies ignored terroristic threats for cryin out loud. Does tightening up background checks mean if you've ever been depressed and taken medication or seen a doctor? How about if you've ever seen a psychologist or psychiatrist? I can see the slippery slope already....
    From my understanding, all these omissions in the background checks can be traced back to obama's "Promise Project," that give states, counties, and/or school systems money grants to overlook, and not report, certain crimes committed by minors. This was implemented by obama and Holder to stop the high incarceration rate of Negro thugs. Cruz wasn't listed on the prohibited llist because of this.

    Another thing to thank obama for.
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    Let it play out. Don't believe anything the CM (Communist Media) is saying.

    Remember a while back, when Trump met with Schumer and Pelosi (I forget what they met about....) and after the meeting Chucky and Pelosi were all smiles and giggles claiming that Trump was listening to reason and coming to his senses and doing what they wanted? Then, Trump did exactly what he, originally, said he was going to do and Chucky and Pelosi were left holding the bag.

    Right now, this situation is being set up exactly like that was set up. The Commies are all smiles and think they are on winning ground.....

    Let's wait and see how it pans out before we pass judgement on Trump's actions.

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    I find it so funny that the same people who are gushing about Trump actually listening to them are the same people calling for his impeachment!

    I feel there is more to this than meets the eye, or what we are being told.

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    Justice Department files regulation to ban 'bump stocks'

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1GM0JN

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    Sessions moves to criminalize possession of bump stocks

    WASHINGTON — Firearm bump stocks would have to be surrendered, destroyed or made inoperable under a ban proposed Friday by the Justice Department.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...stocks-n859646
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    Trump’s Newest ATF Bump Stock Rule Open for Comments - https://www.ammoland.com/2018/04/new...#axzz5BYvm3mwB

    ATF Proposed Rule on Bump-Stock-Type Devices Officially Published - https://www.ammoland.com/2018/04/new...#axzz5BYvm3mwB

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    Yesterday was 5 months since the FL school shooting. AFAIK bump stocks are still legal. Is a ban still going through the process or has it just faded away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    Yesterday was 5 months since the FL school shooting. AFAIK bump stocks are still legal. Is a ban still going through the process or has it just faded away?
    Probably faded away like every other federal gun thing you guys had come down the pipe over the last 20 years
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    Seems like their was some kind of review period but I don't see anything on the ATF website beyond that they were looking to propose revisions or some such. No indication anything has actually happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    Seems like their was some kind of review period but I don't see anything on the ATF website beyond that they were looking to propose revisions or some such. No indication anything has actually happened.
    Well that's good news. I vaguely remember Trump doing something like this before with some gun law. Said he was going to and then when the smoke cleared just didn't do anything
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    Somebody has filed a suit against the ATF on this. I need to find the article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by recon View Post
    Somebody has filed a suit against the ATF on this. I need to find the article.
    Is this what you're looking for? https://www.law.com/dailybusinessrev...20180615130308

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    That involves the FL state ban. I was referring to a federal ban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    That involves the FL state ban. I was referring to a federal ban.
    Try this - http://reason.com/archives/2018/06/2...n-some-gun-rig

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    Thanks Steven. So it hasn't gone away. Wonder when "later this year" is as far as a date?
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    Trump Says Federal Bump Stock Ban Has Reached ‘Final Stages’

    https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2018...-final-stages/

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    And with the NRA doing all it can to protect our second amendment rights, how can we lose?

    "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations"

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    And with the NRA doing all it can to protect our second amendment rights, how can we lose?

    "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations"
    "Regulations" shouldn't mean outright banning.....
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    I'm still conflicted on this one. The 2A doesn't protect the right to own accessories that increase a firearms practical rate of fire so please explain how the NRA is failing, in your opinion as it pertains to the 2A? That being said this will be another "ban" that does nothing. In a way isn't that the best kind of ban?

    People are trying to link this to the 2A as some type of infringement. I understand the sentiment but it doesn't apply.
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